Why was Zeke out of the game?

[Dre11]

What do you mean we arent dealing with 90s players . Dose that mean we have to accept them commanding more money but being softer and in poor physical condition to the point we cant count on them in big moments

Before you talk about Zekes huge work load look at some of the other great backs Emmitt , Tony Dorsett had that kind of work load and didnt tap out . Heck John Riggins had 375 carries at 34 yrs old 1347 yrds and 24 TDs Thats a work load !!! With 24TDS Do you think Riggins was comming out of the frigging game in the red zone on 3rd down
Beast Mode , Frank Gore , Adrian Peterson ever see them tapping out every couple plays and they all had as heavy work load as Zeke .

Eric Dickerson had a work load of close to and over 400 carries from 83 to 88 he didnt tap out Why because they have heart and are HOF players not some SOFT ENTITLED guy holding out in Cabo unprepared for the season and big moments . The men I spoke of thrived on big moments thats how there careers were built not trying to avoid them .

my point went way over your head. you just repeated my point. these youngsters now are not built like Enmitt, Peterson...etc

 

[Dre11]

I think we will get around that, but we've got to get a coach in here who doesn't just want to pound him into the line when run is expected. Garrett's scheme doesn't do Elliott any favors.

Lol he led the league in rushing 2 years straight, damn near 3, the scheme?
Murray led the league as well.

 

[gimmesix]

Lol he led the league in rushing 2 years straight, damn near 3, the scheme?
Murray led the league as well.

Yes, scheme. Heavy on first-down runs. Run primarily between the tackles. Etc.

We do little to fool the defense or take advantage of them when they are expecting pass. We've got some here who seem to believe that Elliott can't take the edge because of speed, but that's not accurate. It's scheme that fails to get him the ball outside the tackles.

He has led the league because he's a really good back and we've got some really good linemen. He could be averaging 5-plus yards per carry if the scheme helped both him and the linemen more.

 

[Dre11]

Yes, scheme. Heavy on first-down runs. Run primarily between the tackles. Etc.

We do little to fool the defense or take advantage of them when they are expecting pass. We've got some here who seem to believe that Elliott can't take the edge because of speed, but that's not accurate. It's scheme that fails to get him the ball outside the tackles.

He has led the league because he's a really good back and we've got some really good linemen. He could be averaging 5-plus yards per carry if the scheme helped both him and the linemen more.

You are clueless, you don't win damn near 3 rushing titles with a bad run scheme. they don't just run between tackles. they also mix some zone scheme as well, the run mix power, off tackle, and some counters. Elliott could get to the outside prior to this year and he did. I hate to break it to you, he don't have the same burst he had his first 2 years.

 

[gimmesix]

You are clueless, you don't win damn near 3 rushing titles with a bad run scheme. they don't just run between tackles. they also mix some zone scheme as well, the run mix power, off tackle, and some counters. Elliott could get to the outside prior to this year and he did. I hate to break it to you, he don't have the same burst he had his first 2 years.

So players can never do better in another scheme? Is that what you are saying?

Garrett's scheme is very predictable, so it makes it more difficult to maximize what the running game can do. If you think Dallas is maximizing its use of Elliott, you are the one who is clueless.

 

[Blackrain]

my point went way over your head. you just repeated my point. these youngsters now are not built like Enmitt, Peterson...etc

They are built from the exact same flesh and blood that responds the same way it always has to proper conditioning . If anything the nutrition is higher tech and they should have more stamina not less . Problem is they are weak minded and lazy

 

[Dre11]

So players can never do better in another scheme? Is that what you are saying?

Garrett's scheme is very predictable, so it makes it more difficult to maximize what the running game can do. If you think Dallas is maximizing its use of Elliott, you are the one who is clueless.

yes you are clueless. again he led the league damn near 3 years , 1 with a rookie qb who could take no pressure of him . this scheme produced league leaders . Norv Turner. Stephen Davis, LT, Emmitt, and McCaffery is #2 right now. Garrett. Murray and Zeke. ..lol You're out of your mind

 

[Dre11]

They are built from the exact same flesh and blood that responds the same way it always has to proper conditioning . If anything the nutrition is higher tech and they should have more stamina not less . Problem is they are weak minded and lazy

hence my point, they're not built like the older backs whether it's mentally or physically

 

[InTheZone]

It's up to Dak to communicate with his hot read, especially a backup in the huddle on what he wants to see.

 

[Blackrain]

hence my point, they're not built like the older backs whether it's mentally or physically

No Cars are not built the same as in the 70s 80s or 90s humans dont evolve that fast but they do try to take the line of least resistance and the easy way out when they are not coached properly

We used to be coached by a man with a military background that flew bombing missions now we are coached by the Princeton Snowflake who his players love because he is so easy on them . The players are the same human beings, they are no less able to become physically or mentally prepared . They have not evolved into a lesser being . They are no longer trained properly

 

[khiladi]

I thought Zeke sucked and we don’t need him and Dak is the engine that makes the offense roar? Now we are complaining that Dak can’t overcome Zeke being out one play?

 

[JMPearson]

Both practice squad options were injured and didn't practice during the week. Suffice to say its a situation this team knew they could be in from the very beginning. Perhaps they forgot Randall Cobb has played some running back in his day.

Or Austin

 

[JMPearson]

No its not on Zeke its on Garrett for not making him stay in or have somebody in the game that knew what play to run . Let Austin play RB for a play if Zeke is too out of shape . Its not even close to being Daks fault we needed 4 freaking yrd and a 1st not a FB trying to be Jerry Rice , get a grip on the situation .

This is why we lose games and I think Jerry has finally had just about enough of us not being prepared

This Austin should be used but he is the Dog house due to JG incompetence

 

[Blackrain]

This Austin should be used but he is the Dog house due to JG incompetence

The guy could be like Preston Pearson was out of the backfield on 3rd down to catch short passes . He was a 1st rd pick and has great speed and would create mismatches if LBs were trying to cover him .
The guy was getting between 40 and 60 rushes a year with the Rams and roughly the same amount of receptions . So why couldnt he come out of the backfield and run or catch passes for us on a 3rd down when Zeke needs a blow

 

[Blackrain]

Olawale has caught a total of 41 passes in an 8yr career . In the 2 years he has been with us he has been targeted a total of 6 times and caught 2 passes . I this the PLAYMAKER you use on a critical 3rd down in the red zone and leave Austin a guy with 4.3 speed that has been used at RB and receiver his whole career on the bench .
No wonder Jerry was pissed off why not just send Cooper Rush or the Kicker out of the backfield and expect positive results . Its one thing if you dont have the personnel to do the job but its another if you are too stupid to use the perfect guy for the job

 

[Dre11]

No Cars are not built the same as in the 70s 80s or 90s humans dont evolve that fast but they do try to take the line of least resistance and the easy way out when they are not coached properly

We used to be coached by a man with a military background that flew bombing missions now we are coached by the Princeton Snowflake who his players love because he is so easy on them . The players are the same human beings, they are no less able to become physically or mentally prepared . They have not evolved into a lesser being . They are no longer trained properly

Dude that has nothing to do with it BP was as bigger hard a** than Jimmy and he had the same issues with the players. the money and the fact these players don't play with hangnails tells you all you need to know. it doesn't just happen here, it happens all across the league.

 

[Ranched]

 

[Blackrain]

Dude that has nothing to do with it BP was as bigger hard a** than Jimmy and he had the same issues with the players. the money and the fact these players don't play with hangnails tells you all you need to know. it doesn't just happen here, it happens all across the league.

Sorry it has a lot to do with it and why we are going to get a coaching change . A guy like Belicheck can some how motivate role players to play above their heads and make it to the SB every other year because not only is he a no nonsense coach he is respected and knows how to prepare a team. Less talented Coaches like the Garretts and Freddie Kitchens of the world have talent filled rosters that they waste and cant get the most out of .

Many talented players are not self motivated enough to reach their potential and need a great coach to get the most out of them . Look at Taco we couldnt do anything with him and now he has 5 sacks in Miami and is playing well

Part of what you say is true " All you need to know is it just dosent happen here " It sure dosent and has not for 25 yrs thats why we are getting a new coach because Jerry is finally pissed off because Garrett cant make it happen here

 

[Cmac]

Real problem.....the ease to pinpoint Zeke and mask the obvious....and there's many that showcase the dysfunction, pretending, and masquerading of a team.

 

[Brooksey]

The writing was on the wall early.

1. He came into his first training camp 6 lbs overweight.
2. He was whining on Twitter about having to wake up on the 2nd day of camp. His mom called him out on it.
3. Dude is at the weed shop hours before his first NFL preseason game action.
4. He comes into 2017 looking much bigger than 2016 and this is where the “fat Zeke” jokes came along.
5. His efficiency dropped to the level of Joseph Randle 2015 that year.
6. All or Nothing gets released and shows Zeke rolling into meetings looking like he just left the club and in need of a full nights sleep.
7. His big play ability has seemingly disappeared. No breakaway speed anymore. He doesn’t even clock in the NFL fastest runners on his “splash” plays anymore.

In my opinion, it’s his work ethic or lack thereof. He has relied on natural ability and that is declining faster than it should because he isn’t putting in the type of work needed to sustain a “generational” type of player status. We got that player for 1 year and since have just had a good to very good player.

This is coaching that allows this BS