Why we didn't get a receiver

[Yeagermeister]

You don't go to Red Lobster and order the burger--this year's draft had no NFL ready WRs, so why order one?

I order the chicken

 

[braw]

Teams always blow smoke after the draft. If Sweed had been there at 61, we'd have drafted him. I'm sure if someone we loved fell to us later in the draft, we'd have drafted them, too.

It's not like we determined before the draft that we absolutely weren't drafting a WR. We just didn't reach for one just to get one, and that's a good thing.

We traded up for Jenkins and gave up 2 draft picks to get him and we traded up for Scandrick. So why do we have to wait until a wr fell to us it makes no sense.

I think the smoke that is blown is by people who can't understand what was done or better yet don't won't to accept that a team has a draft board they follow and wr was not in the cards.

 

[Aven8]

I remember having another receiver that we gave up on, Jimmy Smith. How did his career turn out? I do think that Austin shows more promise than Hurd. Hurd is more of a possesion receiver, similar to Keshawn. Austin shows more promise and has speed to burn. He could also be another Alexander Wright. If we cut Austin though I can guarantee you that there will be 10 other teams that will want him with BP being the first.

Remember it's not always about the receivers also, but about the man that gets the ball to them. Tom Brady won three Superbowls with "no name" receivers.

 

[aikemirv]

We traded up for Jenkins and gave up 2 draft picks to get him and we traded up for Scandrick. So why do we have to wait until a wr fell to us it makes no sense.

I think the smoke that is blown is by people who can't understand what was done or better yet don't won't to accept that a team has a draft board they follow and wr was not in the cards.

At that time we were a little low on draft picks. We did not gain many until the beginning of the 4th. It was reported thatJerry wanted to move up for a WR ( Hardy) in the second but was outvoted. It was also reported that they liked Sweed in the second I believe.

 

[TheCount]

You don't go to Red Lobster and order the burger--this year's draft had no NFL ready WRs, so why order one?

Amazingly, a bunch of other teams managed to find burgers all over the menu at Red Lobster.

 

[Angus]

We traded up for Jenkins and gave up 2 draft picks to get him and we traded up for Scandrick. So why do we have to wait until a wr fell to us it makes no sense.

I think the smoke that is blown is by people who can't understand what was done or better yet don't won't to accept that a team has a draft board they follow and wr was not in the cards.

My goodness! A disgruntled GM! Too bad Dallas didn't follow your advice.

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My apologies. Reread your post and see your point now.

Angus

 

[silver]

Teams always blow smoke after the draft. If Sweed had been there at 61, we'd have drafted him. I'm sure if someone we loved fell to us later in the draft, we'd have drafted them, too.

It's not like we determined before the draft that we absolutely weren't drafting a WR. We just didn't reach for one just to get one, and that's a good thing.

jerry wanted to trade up to get him and "settled" for Bennett.

 

[Doomsday101]

We traded up for Jenkins and gave up 2 draft picks to get him and we traded up for Scandrick. So why do we have to wait until a wr fell to us it makes no sense.

I think the smoke that is blown is by people who can't understand what was done or better yet don't won't to accept that a team has a draft board they follow and wr was not in the cards.

So who wanted to trade with us in the 2nd rd and what did they want in return? Dallas made trades where a trade was available but we don't know if Dallas tried to move up in the 2nd or not or what it may have cost us to do so. We stayed at 61 and took quality player

 

[utrunner07]

In the playoff game he dropped a possible td pass.

I'll be surprised if he even makes the team this year.

In that case see ya later Crayton...at least Austin does not quit on plays and run his mouth.

Austin is one of the most undervalued and utilized guys on this team...not only are is Kick return abilities always over looked, he is THE fastest on the team. He does need to work on catching the ball some but no more so than TO. I would have him at number 3 over Crayton any day

 

[ZeroClub]

At that time we were a little low on draft picks. We did not gain many until the beginning of the 4th. It was reported thatJerry wanted to move up for a WR ( Hardy) in the second but was outvoted. It was also reported that they liked Sweed in the second I believe.

Yeah, the move up for Jenkins (#28 to #25) probably cost the Cowboys their chance to move up from #61 to get a top WR.

It was pretty amazing to watching that run of 10 WRs drafted in Round 2 before the Cowboys' 2nd round choice finally rolled around. I'm not excited about the team picking a TE in Round 2 (better to trade out, assuming it was possible to make a reasonable trade), but there are worse things than picking a BPA.

 

[tyke1doe]

Didn't Austin drop a sure touchdown in the last Skins game? I seem to remember he did. I don't think I still have that game on tape. I generally delete Cowboys losses.

 

[utrunner07]

Didn't Austin drop a sure touchdown in the last Skins game? I seem to remember he did. I don't think I still have that game on tape. I generally delete Cowboys losses.

tyke1doe, allow me to introduce you to Terrel Owens, he is the alleged #1 wide receiver on this team who also has been known to commit such sins.

Look, it would be great if we had a receiver that didn't have such issues, but we don't...Austin is only slightly worse than TO at drops and he is much younger and faster....Austin is not better than TO, but ripping on Austin because he drops a few balls is pretty weak without examining the players he is competing against.

 

[braw]

So who wanted to trade with us in the 2nd rd and what did they want in return? Dallas made trades where a trade was available but we don't know if Dallas tried to move up in the 2nd or not or what it may have cost us to do so. We stayed at 61 and took quality player

The premise was about not drafting a wr and blowing smoke that we were not going to draft one.

My conclusion was that we had the ammo for a wr but the board pointed another way. yes jerry wanted to move for Hardy but no one in the Cowboys war room followed(which is the so called smoke) but the rest of the war room stayed true to the board and did not reach for a need.

They spent draft picks on Jenkins because he was not a reach and was a target from the board. So if they wanted to draft a WR and the board showed a reciever was a value pick then trade out of the 1st with the 28th pick grab a couple of seconds and get your wr and a lesser cb, but THE BOARD said otherwise WR is not more importanat than CB and RB( which come in right away and contribute). This is all I posted about.

 

[Doomsday101]

The premise was about not drafting a wr and blowing smoke that we were not going to draft one.

My conclusion was that we had the ammo for a wr but the board pointed another way. yes jerry wanted to move for Hardy but no one in the Cowboys war room followed(which is the so called smoke) but the rest of the war room stayed true to the board and did not reach for a need.

They spent draft picks on Jenkins because he was not a reach and was a target from the board. So if they wanted to draft a WR and the board showed a reciever was a value pick then trade out of the 1st with the 28th pick grab a couple of seconds and get your wr and a lesser cb, but THE BOARD said otherwise WR is not more importanat than CB and RB( which come in right away and contribute). This is all I posted about.

Which GM does not blow smoke before and after the draft. I have yet to hear any GM say he did not get the guy he wanted. I think Dallas clearly felt the need for CB was greater and had a chance at a CB who they did not even think would be on the board at 25 neither did most prognosticators and with Houston sitting with the 26 pick needing CB help Dallas was not going to let Jenkins get away. Face it this year the quality was at CB and RB, for Dallas to trade the 28th pick for WR who are only grading out as 2nd rd talent is not that wise.

 

[Hostile]

I like Hurd, Austin, Crayton and Stanback. In fact I like them a lot. I imagine that the Cowboys brass like them too. If they didn't they would be long gone by now.

I sincerely hope that the Cowboys brass never like candidates at any position so much that they would turn a blind eye towards getting better at that position.

In other words, I highly doubt that projected improvement of any player on this team at any position had anything to do with the Draft focus. That would be a tragic shame.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

for the folks running with my Red Lobster analogy--you can order what you want at RL but if you want a good burger you don't go there--and just because other people drafted WRs, doesn't mean we do--we have depth at WR that will develop nicely, give it time

 

[big dog cowboy]

You don't go to Red Lobster and order the burger--this year's draft had no NFL ready WRs, so why order one?

Might be the best explaination i've heard yet.

 

[Yeagermeister]

In that case see ya later Crayton...at least Austin does not quit on plays and run his mouth.

Austin is one of the most undervalued and utilized guys on this team...not only are is Kick return abilities always over looked, he is THE fastest on the team. He does need to work on catching the ball some but no more so than TO. I would have him at number 3 over Crayton any day

Crayton caught more passes his rookie year than Austin will catch in his career. Yes he runs his mouth too much and the stopping on his route hurt badly but he has done something more than return one kickoff for a td.

Does Austin deserve a shot? yes, but when he gets his chance he has to do something with it.

Randal Williams was the fastest guy on the team for years and where did that get him?

 

[Doomsday101]

Crayton caught more passes his rookie year than Austin will catch in his career. Yes he runs his mouth too much and the stopping on his route hurt badly but he has done something more than return one kickoff for a td.

Does Austin deserve a shot? But when he gets his chance he has to do something with it.

Randal Williams was the fastest guy on the team for years and where did that get him?

I agree that Austin and Hurd need to kick it up a level this coming season. They are no longer rookies both guys are entering year 3 it is time to step up to the plate and prove themselves.

 

[utrunner07]

Crayton caught more passes his rookie year than Austin will catch in his career. Yes he runs his mouth too much and the stopping on his route hurt badly but he has done something more than return one kickoff for a td.

Does Austin deserve a shot? yes, but when he gets his chance he has to do something with it.

Randal Williams was the fastest guy on the team for years and where did that get him?

Crayton got more balls thrown at him his Rookie year than Austin has gotten in his three year career. And I think you know Austin has done more than return one kickoff for a td. I agree Austin needs to show something but part of the reason Crayton appears "better" to some is because Austin rarely gets a legit shot...ie, that final Washington game was not a legit shot....if I had to pick who has the more potential of any of our developing WR right now, its Austin, hands down....

Agreed on the fastest guy thing but Austin has shown that his speed can kill...remember the Greenbay game???????? Why didn't Austin get more chances to do that?