Why would San Fran let us take Singletary as DC

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Q_the_man;1348310 said:
Jason garrett has no experience calling plays but that's OK. But one of the Best Middle LBs in history doesn't know how to call a defense:bang2: u don't become great MLB not been the captian on the best defense ever

Thats just the word man.

Jason Garrett was going to get that position eventually. People have been trying to get him and Miami has turned them all away.

Singletary on the other hand has not been offered a D coordinator job and hasnt had teams trying to go after him. Not even his own team who is in need of a Coordinator as we speak.

From the sounds of it he would be a better head coach then he would a coordinator because he would be able to do what he does best and thats motivate and leave the playcalling to someone else.
 

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Q_the_man;1348315 said:
Ditka, lol. link? please. Others who, actually i watch NFL live all the time NFL newwork all the time and haven't heard nothing about singletary not been able to call X's and O's

if u don't want him just say it but don't lie

Hey hit me up with an apology in my inbox when these reports start coming out when hes given serious consideration here.

Ditka was on GAC the other day saying that he doesnt have to be a good playcaller to be a head coach and stuff.

I've heard someone else say it too but I never payed much attention because I didnt think we had a legit shot at him ever being here.
 

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that does not say anything, plus like Jimmy Johnson said once b4, he couldn't call a play if his life depends on it. I don't care who we hire, i would take Boise Coach b4 all the coaches mentioned so far...
 

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Q_the_man;1348322 said:
that does not say anything, plus like Jimmy Johnson said once b4, he couldn't call a play if his life depends on it. I don't care who we hire, i would take Boise Coach b4 all the coaches mentioned so far...


Thats because you dont understand NFL offenses and didnt learn your lessons about gimmick offenses from watching Steve Spurrier trying to do his thing in Washington.

Also Jimmy didnt have to call plays. He had great coordinators along with great talent.

Jimmy was a builder and a guy who knew what buttons to push and when to push them.
 

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Q_the_man;1348322 said:
that does not say anything, plus like Jimmy Johnson said once b4, he couldn't call a play if his life depends on it. I don't care who we hire, i would take Boise Coach b4 all the coaches mentioned so far...
It doesn't?

Right from the 2nd article, exactly what you are saying others are "lying" about.

"One of the questions about Singletary, a Hall of Fame linebacker with the Bears, is whether he has knowledge of X's and O's to be an effective coordinator."
 

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Regarding Singletary,

He was a MLB. He understands X's and O's. The problem is he doesnt have as much experience with the X's and O's outside of the defenses he played as a pro and college athelete.

He dosnt seem like a good fit in Dallas, but who knows who has mentored him, who knows how much film he has watched. etc.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1348346 said:
Regarding Singletary,

He was a MLB. He understands X's and O's. The problem is he doesnt have as much experience with the X's and O's outside of the defenses he played as a pro and college athelete.

He dosnt seem like a good fit in Dallas, but who knows who has mentored him, who knows how much film he has watched. etc.


What scares me is hes only been in the league coaching for 3 years and before that hasnt been around football since 1992.

Nows not the time to get cute with our guy calling the plays for this defense in my opinion.
 

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I'm with Catch17, as I said earlier in this thread, do we really want Garrett and Singletary as our coordinators with 5 years of coaching experience between them? I don't think so. We need a solid, old warhorse at D-coordinator. I vote for a Belicheck or LeBeau disciple.
 

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BigDFan5;1347943 said:
Speculation saying we may hire Singletary as D Coord. may be premature, even if we want to hire him, the 49ers can block the move. If he is such a hot commodity as people are saying why would they let us take him?
He's a black coach not already employed by Dallas. It's just a dog and pony show for the NFL.
 

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CATCH17;1348355 said:
What scares me is hes only been in the league coaching for 3 years and before that hasnt been around football since 1992.

Nows not the time to get cute with our guy calling the plays for this defense in my opinion.

It says Singletary has been coaching 4 years Ravens and 49ers.
 

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CATCH17;1348284 said:
Personally people dont think Singletary is a very good X's and O's guy so I hope he stays away from our defense.

If you cant put together a smart game plan than your worthless. Teaching a position is one thing but Calling a defense is another.

I dont like the idea of him as the DC. I'd rather go with Bowles out of those 2.

I don't think Bowles has that much more experience over Singletary.

And this really has nothing to do with who makes a better coach. But I would rather have a LB, and a Hall of Famer at that, than a DB, with a decent NFL career. From a fan standpoint. But like I said, that may have nothing to do with coaching ability.
 

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jazzcat22;1349119 said:
I don't think Bowles has that much more experience over Singletary.

And this really has nothing to do with who makes a better coach. But I would rather have a LB, and a Hall of Famer at that, than a DB, with a decent NFL career. From a fan standpoint. But like I said, that may have nothing to do with coaching ability.

Well, Coach Landry was a DB with a decent NFL career when he started too. Unfortunate that Bowles was a Skin. For that reason alone, I can't support him as our DC or even HC.

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dfense;1349091 said:
He's a black coach not already employed by Dallas. It's just a dog and pony show for the NFL.

Or maybe Jerry actually respects the spirit of the rule.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1349145 said:
Well, Coach Landry was a DB with a decent NFL career when he started too. Unfortunate that Bowles was a Skin. For that reason alone, I can't support him as our DC or even HC.

:D

That is true, that's why I said it probably doesn't matter. Thanks for reminding me that about Landry.
 

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jazzcat22;1349119 said:
I don't think Bowles has that much more experience over Singletary.

And this really has nothing to do with who makes a better coach. But I would rather have a LB, and a Hall of Famer at that, than a DB, with a decent NFL career. From a fan standpoint. But like I said, that may have nothing to do with coaching ability.


That has absolutely nothing to do with putting together a game plan to stop these high powered NFL offenses.

Would you take Mike Singletary over Dick Lebeau or someone like that? Of course you wouldnt.

I dont trust him and neither do the Niners and thats obviously why they arent giving him that job.
 

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Singletary doesn't have to call the defensive plays, JJ will be doing it from up in the booth.
 

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theogt;1348319 said:


So far it looks like columnists and message board hangers-on. No out-and-out quote from Nolan saying he thinks Mike doesn't know enough, like he'd go on record with such a statement.

Not unlike here. Certainly Nolan has stated he wants people with experience; it doesn't sound like he's the one to let someone gain it on the job.

I put little stock in what the 49ers fans think. Even less in their writers. Does anyone here put much stock day-in and day-out in ours? Jerry doesn't care if we think he should hire an experienced DC (even as HC); he's going to do what he thinks gives him the most impact. Whether that also translates to long-range success for the team is what we're still trying to figure out.
 

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zeromaster;1349673 said:
So far it looks like columnists and message board hangers-on. No out-and-out quote from Nolan saying he thinks Mike doesn't know enough, like he'd go on record with such a statement.

Not unlike here. Certainly Nolan has stated he wants people with experience; it doesn't sound like he's the one to let someone gain it on the job.

I put little stock in what the 49ers fans think. Even less in their writers. Does anyone here put much stock day-in and day-out in ours? Jerry doesn't care if we think he should hire an experienced DC (even as HC); he's going to do what he thinks gives him the most impact. Whether that also translates to long-range success for the team is what we're still trying to figure out.


Darren Woodson was even talking about it on the LBOH show this morning.

Its a concern and the more you hear about this guy coming here the more you will hear about this concern.
 

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Well, according to one of the articles concerning Singletary and Nolan . . . .

Nolan said he's the Asst Head Coach and not the DC because Nolan actually take the responsibility/title as Asst Head Coach seriously.

In other words, we all know that at times a lot of these titles are handed out (i.e., Asst Head Coach) as a recruiting tool, etc. by the NFL teams.

That said, it could very well be (as most of us think) that Singletary is a great motivator, commands instant respect, gets players to play hard for him, etc. That's a very valuable commodity for Nolan to have.

However, I think we'd need to make Singletary at least DC for him to move from SF. That may not be his forte (scheming).

But it's obviously all conjecture at this point.

I DO think, however, that Norv must have passed Singletary's name to JJ (for whatever purpose) and this didn't just come out of the blue.
 
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