Why would Ware take a pay cut?

[CyberB0b]

His dead money figure will be ~8 million if they cut him, right? Meaning if they sign a scrub like Selive 750k - 1 million, they are putting in at least 9 million to replace him. He has quite a bit of leverage, in that regard.

 

[Gemini Dolly]

I would also think hed.prefer playing for a contender.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

His dead money figure will be ~8 million if they cut him, right? Meaning if they sign a scrub like Selive 750k - 1 million, they are putting in at least 9 million to replace him. He has quite a bit of leverage, in that regard.

Because its pay cut or be cut

 

[Nightman]

His dead money figure will be ~8 million if they cut him, right? Meaning if they sign a scrub like Selive 750k - 1 million, they are putting in at least 9 million to replace him. He has quite a bit of leverage, in that regard.

He is owed ZERO guaranteed dollars, is coming off a down year and off season surgery. There are other DEs on the market and he has never made over 8m as a base salary before.

As far as the cap is concerned, it not what he costs but what they save by cutting him. If they keep him it's a 16m cap hit. If they cut him it's a 8.5m cap hit plus his replacement. If it's a rookie it's around 1.5m tops, if it's a 10m a year FA it's still around 4m tops.

 

[supercowboy8]

If released where else will he get 9 million? Where will he get 7 million a year? On the open market he will get a pay cut. Why not stay and take the same amount t of my eyes if not alittle more than he would get on the open market.
Michael Johnson, Brian Orakpo, and Michael Bennett will get the DE money.

 

[Don Corleone]

Let him walk.

 

[Jerryrage]

I would also think hed.prefer playing for a contender.

Nah, he just wants to cash in like all the other Cowboy players aside from Dez Bryant.

 

[rwalters31]

His dead money figure will be ~8 million if they cut him, right? Meaning if they sign a scrub like Selive 750k - 1 million, they are putting in at least 9 million to replace him. He has quite a bit of leverage, in that regard.

Answer to the thread, HE Wouldn't!

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Didn't he already say he wouldn't?

 

[casmith07]

If released where else will he get 9 million? Where will he get 7 million a year? On the open market he will get a pay cut. Why not stay and take the same amount t of my eyes if not alittle more than he would get on the open market.
Michael Johnson, Brian Orakpo, and Michael Bennett will get the DE money.

If not for Orakpo's injury history, I would like to have him.

 

[supercowboy8]

If he doesn't then let him walk. Same with Hatcher. They are both past their prime and time to stop overpaying older players.

 

[BigStar]

Ware would make more here @ a reduced salary than what he would be capable of getting in FA (similar to Free). I'm more than ready to move on and really rebuild this DL unless Ware's dead money can be "justified" with a big pay cut. Even then, this seems like a lot of creativity to keep an aging player that MAY rebound while the WHOLE DL is in such dire need of improvement.

 

[Hoofbite]

He is owed ZERO guaranteed dollars, is coming off a down year and off season surgery. There are other DEs on the market and he has never made over 8m as a base salary before.

Why does it matter what he has or hasn't made as a base salary in years prior?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Players only take pay cuts when they feel that if they were going to go on the open market they could not sign with a team and end up making more money.

So let's say a player making $10 million a year is asked to take a pay-cut down to $8 million a year. If he doesn't take a pay-cut he will be released and make $5 million for that year based on the terms of his contract.

If the player thinks he can sign with another team and make at least $4 million (assuming he wants to make more money)...there's no reason for him to take the pay cut. He can go somewhere else and make $9 million ($5 million from the team that that released him + $4 million from his new team) instead of taking the pay-cut and dropping to $8 million.

This is essentially why Free took a while to take the pay cut. His agent was likely trying to get a feel for what Free would be worth if he hit the open market. After searching they found that he was going to make less money if he were released because no team would sign him and pay him enough. So he took the pay cut because that was his only option. Plus, we were pretty optimistic on Parnell replacing him.





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[MichaelWinicki]

Because he isn't going to get a base salary of more than $7 mil that the Cowboys will probably offer him this season.

And there's the factor of uprooting the family to a new city... which isn't given even credence in discussions like this.

 

[Bullflop]

There's been a lot of posturing going on in anticipation of the actual negotiations. Ware is still highly regarded by those at the top of the Cowboys organization. He wants to stay with Dallas in his own words. They'll be sure to do their best to get him to take a pay cut and in the end, both Ware and his agent are quite aware that his recent history isn't conducive to him getting very close to the top dollar for his position. The C'boys brass will make it worth his while to stay with Dallas, just not comparable to what it's been.

 

[tyke1doe]

Take it for what it's worth, but a source close to Ware tells me if the Cowboys cut him, Daniel Snyder is ready to sign him. The Commanders aren't a contender - at least they weren't last year - but they're two years removed from the playoffs, and Ware would love nothing more than to stick it to the Cowboys twice a year.

 

[tyke1doe]

There's been a lot of posturing going on in anticipation of the actual negotiations. Ware is still highly regarded by those at the top of the Cowboys organization. He wants to stay with Dallas in his own words. They'll be sure to do their best to get him to take a pay cut and in the end, both Ware and his agent are quite aware that his recent history isn't conducive to him getting very close to the top dollar for his position. The C'boys brass will make it worth his while to stay with Dallas, just not comparable to what it's been.

I don't know if team loyalty will win out here. A player has only a certain amount of time to maximize his earning potential.
If Ware is going to take a big pay cut, I don't see why he'd stay when someone team will jump at signing him and giving him a huge bonus. My prediction is if the team tells him to take a salary cut for the team, he bolts to "greener" pastures.

 

[SportsGuru80]

I think he would make more money by taking a pay cut here versus hitting the open market...

 

[TrailBlazer]

His dead money figure will be ~8 million if they cut him, right? Meaning if they sign a scrub like Selive 750k - 1 million, they are putting in at least 9 million to replace him. He has quite a bit of leverage, in that regard.

That "scrub" selvie outperformed ware. And got paid 1/6th of what ware was paid. Dallas has too many "ware/austin contracts" and not enough "selvie contracts". Meaning we don't get the returns on our investments and we overpay. Selvie=good value contract.

I don't think ware has much leverage. Dallas has to clear cap space, and ware has one of the worst value contracts on the team. It's the obvious move. George selvie proved that ware's declining production can be easily replaced, and at much cheaper cost.

The only leverage ware has is the fact that we have too many holes to fill along the dline already as it is now. Its a weak DE draft class. Dallas doesn't want to use valuable resources to replace him, while still having to pay ware his 8mil cap hit to play for another team.

Still, I don't think this is enough leverage to warrant anything more than that 8mil cap hit. Dallas could sign TWO guys to replace him with the savings from cutting him. Which gives Dallas the upper hand in regards to leverage.

Ware made 6 mil last season, I don't see why he wouldn't take a paycut to 6 mil for 2014. Thats fair compensation, he wouldnt get more than that in FA. Dallas would save 8mil and have one less hole to fill along the defensive line. It's the best possible scenario for both parties. (Considering we already have to pay him 8mil whether we cut him or not)

He's not worth 12 mil(16m cap hit) and ware knows it. If he is really a team player, he will take the paycut and go into next season with a chip on his shoulder knowing he has something to prove.