Why Zack Martin Reminds Me Of A NBA Hall of Famer - Scouting Report

[ElGatoGrande]

Here's a GIF from the article:

A clip showing your prize lineman prospect tackling a defender would not have been my choice of clippage,,,, lol

 

[starfrombirth]

A clip showing your prize lineman prospect tackling a defender would not have been my choice of clippage,,,, lol

It looked to me more like he turned him and pancaked him.

 

[DFWJC]

Was Martin a better lineman in college than decastro?

yes

 

[Rockport]

In 2009 Seattle was 5 and 11 and by 2013, they won the SB. In 2010, San Francisco was 6 and 10 and by 2012 they're playing in the SB. In 2009, Baltimore was 9 and 7 and in 2012 they win the SB. In 1989 we were 1 and 15 and by 1992, we won the SB. See where I'm going with this? And we're supposed to be impressed in some way because "Garrett" revamped our OL in 4 years using 3 first round picks? Color me unimpressed. I'd be more appreciative if he built a winning program.

Look at those teams offensive lines and then revisit the topic. You made the case for Dallas rebuilding it's offensive line.

 

[xwalker]

I'm....uhhh.....busy this week. Get back to me later.

Some people would cease to exist if they used one of those.

 

[Idgit]

I don't see where he is complaining about the line. I would say that he is questioning the play-calling.

Yeah, but he's doing it in a thread about our new first round pick. It's not a discussion about play calling, and it's hopefully a thread where we can all be more or less on the same page.

 

[xwalker]

For the third time in four years, the Dallas Cowboys have drafted an offensive lineman in the first round. And while it’s not the sexy pick many desired, it’s the right pick, even for a team that is in desperate need of defensive help. But before I dive head first into my review of Zack Martin and why he reminds me of a certain NBA Hall of Famer, let’s take a trip down memory lane. Go back to November 14, 2010, Jason Garrett’s first game as a head coach. Can you name the five starting offensive lineman in that game? If not, I will help you. Their offensive line looked like this: (with their age at the time of the game and their weight)
LT: Doug Free (26 years, 9.9 months – 323 lbs.)
LG: Kyle Kosier (31 years, 11.6 months – 305 lbs.)
OC: Andre Gurode (32 years, 8.3 months – 320 lbs.)
OG: Leonard Davis (32 years, 2.3 months – 355 lbs.)
RT: Marc Colombo (32 years, 1.2 months – 320 lbs.)

As you can see, Jason Garrett took over an aging, declining, heavy offensive line. And in less than 4 years, he has turned that unit into one of the youngest groups in the NFL that also has a very realistic chance to be one of the best for a long time. The average age of the team’s offensive line on opening day in 2014 will be 25 years old. This has been a quick rebuild of the offense line and the Cowboys should reap the benefits of that now and in the future.
But back to the player that the Cowboys drafted in 2014. Before we get to anything on the field, I want to take a look at Zack Martin’s college credentials and find out why Jason Garrett believes he is the “Right-Kind-Of Guy” for this Cowboys team:
52 starts at Notre Dame, 50 at left tackle. Most in school’s history.

Won 36 games at Notre Dame, only 3 players have won more in their career at the school.

2 time team captain. Only has happened 18 times in the history of Notre Dame football

Best player on a offensive line that allowed only 8 sacks in 2013.

Voted Best Offensive Lineman On Notre Dame for three straight years. A first at Notre Dame

Named 2 Time on the All-Independence First Team

MVP of the Pinstripe Bowl

Coach Brian Kelly said that “(Martin) was the best offensive lineman I have ever coached, and I’ve had some great ones.”

Father played at Kentucky and comes from a highly competitive football family.

Read the rest at: http://cover32.com/cowboys/2014/05/1...hall-of-famer/

His arm length is fine for a Guard. He's 6-4 compared to 6-2 for Cooper. That's makes his overall length (arm length + height) slightly better than Cooper's.

The line in the table says NFL Average. Is that the NFL average or just the average of the players in the chart? I would be great to know the average of NFL starters.

He might have tested better than Cooper athletically, but Cooper was one of the most athletic Guards that I've seen in game footage.

I really like Martin as a Guard but I'm concerned that they might want to move him to OT in the future where he will have the smallest wingspan of any OT in the NFL.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Jon Gruden seems to think the addition of Martin makes the Cowboys OL as good as any in the NFL. I certainly hope he is right. No reason why should not be at least an above average running team.

 

[munkee]

I'm not sure about the comparison to Larry Bird, but it was an nice write up.

 

[Fredd]

A clip showing your prize lineman prospect tackling a defender would not have been my choice of clippage,,,, lol

1) he pancaked the guy, that is basically the ultimate result that a lineman can have in a one-on-one situation
2) curious that you used the word "your"; are you:

a) a fan of another team,
b) upset that your pet cat wasn't taken
c) are you a fan of "johnny (college) football?
d) all of the above

 

[jnday]

Yeah, but he's doing it in a thread about our new first round pick. It's not a discussion about play calling, and it's hopefully a thread where we can all be more or less on the same page.

How many threads do we have where everybody is on the same page lol?

 

[jobberone]

His arm length is fine for a Guard. He's 6-4 compared to 6-2 for Cooper. That's makes his overall length (arm length + height) slightly better than Cooper's.

The line in the table says NFL Average. Is that the NFL average or just the average of the players in the chart? I would be great to know the average of NFL starters.

He might have tested better than Cooper athletically, but Cooper was one of the most athletic Guards that I've seen in game footage.

I really like Martin as a Guard but I'm concerned that they might want to move him to OT in the future where he will have the smallest wingspan of any OT in the NFL.

I think he can play RT but I reserve the right to reverse course. We've never seen him go up against mostly good players on a consistent basis.

 

[NeonDeion21]

His arm length is fine for a Guard. He's 6-4 compared to 6-2 for Cooper. That's makes his overall length (arm length + height) slightly better than Cooper's.

The line in the table says NFL Average. Is that the NFL average or just the average of the players in the chart? I would be great to know the average of NFL starters.

He might have tested better than Cooper athletically, but Cooper was one of the most athletic Guards that I've seen in game footage.

I really like Martin as a Guard but I'm concerned that they might want to move him to OT in the future where he will have the smallest wingspan of any OT in the NFL.

It is the NFL average of all guards on opening rosters in 2013.

 

[Idgit]

How many threads do we have where everybody is on the same page lol?

This is true. I was hoping for just one, though.

Honestly, I think we're overinvesting resources in the OL with this pick (I'd have rather we traded back a few spots--even with a bad trade--taken Lawrence, and kept and used the third for Trai Turner and added a second round DT or LB and something else with whatever we got in the trade back). OGs should mostly be found and developed in the middle rounds. That said, we made the pick, and we ought to all be pretty excited about the potential on the OL next season as a result. We can save the disagreement for the QB and the HC and the defense and Jerry and whatnot.

 

[TwoDeep3]

While I wanted to see the team draft Donald or Barr, Zach Martin is the guy I really liked the best.

I am thrilled he is a Cowboy. My concern for Romo and his constant beating over the past years caused me to want to solve this issue.

In my mind it seemed we could fix one thing almost completely, or ignore it and still not completely fix the defensive line.

If Leary's knee holds up, this could be a really terrific wall for years to come.

Murray has to be excited at the possibility.

And to the person who thinks Dallas will not run, then consider clock control will aid the defense. And the coaches understand this.

 

[xwalker]

It is the NFL average of all guards on opening rosters in 2013.

Good job finding that info.

What is the average for OTs?

Did you calculate the number or find it somewhere?

 

[xwalker]

I think he can play RT but I reserve the right to reverse course. We've never seen him go up against mostly good players on a consistent basis.

I think he can play RT but I reserve the right to reverse course. We've never seen him go up against mostly good players on a consistent basis.

Larry Allen could play OT but he was best as a Guard.

IMO, Martin will be better as a Guard regardless of how good he is at OT.

 

[NeonDeion21]

Good job finding that info.

What is the average for OTs?

Did you calculate the number or find it somewhere?

I actually calculated it myself. Here's what I got for OT:

Measurable Average
Height: 6' 5.71"
Weight: 316.35
Arm Length: 34.19"
Hand Size: 10.04"
10 Yard Dash: 1.76
20 Yard Dash: 2.98
40 Yard Dash: 5.27
Bench Press: 24.77
Vertical Jump: 27.95"
Broad Jump: 101.67"
3 Cone Drill: 7.76
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.75

 

[NeonDeion21]

Watch him stone-wall the pass rusher from Stanford. Specifically, watch his feet. They aren't close together and they never cross. He always maintains good balance.

 

[jobberone]

Larry Allen could play OT but he was best as a Guard.

IMO, Martin will be better as a Guard regardless of how good he is at OT.

Probably. My thoughts as well. He doesn't look terrific doing his job; he just does it. So he may play OT well and if so then he's Free's replacement. JMO.