Wilcox covering Rams TE Jared Cook

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Looked like he got picked/rubbed on that play. Almost impossible to cover, see Williams TD.

I don't think that was the issue on that play. He had inside help and should have used outside leverage was the main problem on that. There was a play he gave up where he was picked though and that was called right.
 

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I don't think that was the issue on that play. He had inside help and should have used outside leverage was the main problem on that. There was a play he gave up where he was picked though and that was called right.

Ok! I don't get the All 22 but from the TV view it looked as though Cook, who was in the slot, and the outside wr ran crossing routes.
 

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Amazing how in all of these scientific reviews our players are actually doing pretty great. Except Doug Free of course.

Can't remember which channel it was, but I think it was the old fullback Jon Ritchie who was highlighting how awful Wilcox was doing against TEs. Think that was more than the Rams game, though.

And it's not physical ability, it's that he doesn't seem to understand his responsibilities, which is really disappointing. This is literally high school level stuff we're talking about.

And old Ritchie's argument was so good you fail to articulate it.. You obviously understand his responsibilities . . .
 

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Here's the broadcast footage and it does look like Wilcox was rubbed or picked. Cook is making his break under the outside receiver.


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And old Ritchie's argument was so good you fail to articulate it.. You obviously understand his responsibilities . . .

There were about three or four plays he diagrammed on the video. Of course I'm not going to articulate them. Were you expecting a transcript?

And when a simple goal line play is man to man and everyone else covers his man while Wilcox lets the TE run right by him... It doesn't take Archimedes or John Stuart Mill to understand what his responsibility was.
 

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Looked like he got picked/rubbed on that play. Almost impossible to cover, see Williams TD.

Yes, it was a legal pick play. The Rams entire passing offense is based on picks plays (both legal and illegal). The Cowboys probably needed to use more zone coverage against the Rams to minimize the pick plays.
 

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It's a little like everything else: The immediate reaction doesn't tell the whole story. We're quick to assign blame, but when you start breaking down responsibilities, you see where the true fault lies.

Of course, when I've reviewed film on Wilcox what I've seen is a player who is too often trailing the tight ends when he has coverage responsibility. It's possibly coming from him reacting too late when picking them up in his zone, but there have been times when he appears to have man coverage where he's failed to stay in their hip pocket.

However, I have seen some good plays and quickness from him at times that gives me hope that his skills will progress the more he plays.

While I think this is a fair assessment especially after the Titans game I think 'understanding responsibilities' also merits some perspective.

When we are in man calls, Wilcox is called to man up on the TE or flexed H every single time these past two games. They didn't call man versus Davis in SF.

There were two receptions out of man coverage late in the game versus the Titans I can remember him giving up. It highlighted his 4.5 speed as he couldn't make up for good cuts from Walker to the outside underneath the safeties. I think that just is what it is. Some TE are faster and quicker than he is. He has won some of those routes too. Church's interception is one such example. He might need to win more often to be better than average but completion percentages are what they are and a 45% success rate in coverage is average.

The out and in is tough to cover in man because you have no underneath help on those calls. I've watched Jason Witten complete outs in front of S and a WR go route for a dozen years. I don't think it so much is a understanding issue as much as it is a challenging route combination. It is essentially the same concept as those pick plays they kept running at us but instead run 10+ yards downfield.

From that perspective maybe it is a understanding thing but that is for the entire defense. Scandrick, Carr, Church, and obviously Claiborne deserve scrutiny. I'm not sure schematically how they want to stop that but it gave them issues aplenty last week. I don't think we fans have enough understanding to make that call for them.
 

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There were about three or four plays he diagrammed on the video. Of course I'm not going to articulate them. Were you expecting a transcript?

And when a simple goal line play is man to man and everyone else covers his man while Wilcox lets the TE run right by him... It doesn't take Archimedes or John Stuart Mill to understand what his responsibility was.

Of course your not. We should just assume that we would come to the exact same conclusion you did after watching it.

Maybe you don't care but your contribution has been name dropping Ritchie. Thanks for adding so much to the discussion.
 

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Of course your not. We should just assume that we would come to the exact same conclusion you did after watching it.

Maybe you don't care but your contribution has been name dropping Ritchie. Thanks for adding so much to the discussion.

Come to what conclusion? That Wilcox has made egregious mistakes in coverage so far? Those weren't my conclusions, they were that of the paid analyst who played the game.

And since when is citing a source from a tv report "name dropping"? That's a pretty funny one.
 

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Even Broaddaus is doubting Wilcox's abilities. He mentioned similar things I saw on the coaches film on one of the Talking Cowboys show. He said Woody would tell him that safeties need to play with their eyes and Bryan doesn't think Wilcox is. He also questioned what the heck Wilcox is seeing on the field.
 

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Point blank, the safety position isn't all about athletic ability. JJ has the athleticism but not much else right now.

Hopefully we can overcome our shortcomings at safety this season, and upgrade the position next year.
 

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To be fair, the OP did not state that Wilcox was was playing lights out. He just broke down the completions made to the TE.

Yes. Reading seems to be a lost art here.
 

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I've seen some posts and heard some media guys on local sports talk radio say that Wilcox was terrible against the Rams TE Jared Cook.

I reviewed all of Cooks receptions in the game on the All-22.

These are the actual completions to Cook. He might have been open at other times, but these are the plays where he actually caught the ball.

As you can see, Wilcox was responsible for 1 completion for 16 yards when covering Cook.

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Thanks X. Always look forward to ur input and game reviews.
 
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