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TheMarathonContinues said:
Well for starters you can’t say my opinion on coverage is a “lie”. You admit he gets criticism just not as much as them so let’s not sit here and act like it’s this ridiculous claim to make. Josh Allen gets talked about like he’s Mahomes. But he’s not. And Burrow keeps living offf a SB appearance all because he “beat” Mahomes but truthfully it was bis defense.
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Again, I never said he didn't get criticism. All 3 of those guys deserve criticism, my whole point in that post was Herbert doesn't get the criticism those 3 do lol, even though those 3 are way more accomplished
 

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jwitten82 said:
Go on X, btw my original post never said he deserved or didn't deserve criticism. Just that he, Burrow, and Allen faced more scrutiny than Herbert. Then you went and lied, and said Jackson gets more scrutiny than Burrow and Allen lol.
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He objectively does. I am not counting X though as a source of anything because you can find people criticizing everything on X. Its a contrarian troll site that somehow has gotten worse over the years.

Meanwhile in the actual media Allen is beloved. The idea that Allen could be anything but flawless gets hammered and anyone who suggests it has every host jump down their throat. Meanwhile those same hosts will say Lamar needs to prove something. Then I look over to the career accolades and it makes no sense because Lamar drastically outshines him but yet Lamar has to prove he is a top QB still whereas Allen is just not allowed to be criticized.
 
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TheMarathonContinues said:
Well for starters you can’t say my opinion on coverage is a “lie”. You admit he gets criticism just not as much as them so let’s not sit here and act like it’s this ridiculous claim to make. Josh Allen gets talked about like he’s Mahomes. But he’s not. And Burrow keeps living offf a SB appearance all because he “beat” Mahomes but truthfully it was bis defense.
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I take Josh Alan before Mahomes any day. Mahomes has a team Andy Reid, it’s the organization.
 
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Johannes44 said:
And there we have it. Dak Prescott, only shows up to play if the defense gets 3 or more INT's.
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Stroud's win over Cleveland was more Stroud. This game was more the defense and Herberts implosion. Wherever Herbie's mind was at (and maybe it was on the fires) I can't imagine many LA people here agreeing with that excuse.
 

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jwitten82 said:
Lamars issues are in the playoffs, like a certain qb we cant talk about. He's good/elite in the regular season
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Even just calling them good is understating it. His regular season metrics make him look like one of the top 3-4 QBs in the history of the NFL. Its not even really debatable on that.

Meanwhile both he and Allen have made it just as far in the playoff just as many times (despite Lamar missing 2 playoffs due to injury). They both have one conference championship game appearance in their entire careers.
 

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He objectively does. I am not counting X though as a source of anything because you can find people criticizing everything on X. Its a contrarian troll site that somehow has gotten worse over the years.

Meanwhile in the actual media Allen is beloved. The idea that Allen could be anything but flawless gets hammered and anyone who suggests it has every host jump down their throat. Meanwhile those same hosts will say Lamar needs to prove something. Then I look over to the career accolades and it makes no sense because Lamar drastically outshines him but yet Lamar has to prove he is a top QB still whereas Allen is just not allowed to be criticized.
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What? Actual media figures defend Lamar like he's their kid. Im not saying Allen doesn't get thst treatment, but yall acting like Lamar is getting bashed more is crazy
 

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Yobwocs said:
Stroud's win over Cleveland was more Stroud. This game was more the defense and Herberts implosion. Wherever his mind was at (and maybe it was on the fires) I can't imagine many LA people here agreeing with that excuse.
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With how the Chargers played the offense only needed 4 points to win the game because of a pick 6 and a 2 point conversion by the defending team.
 

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Even just calling them good is understating it. His regular season metrics make him look like one of the top 3-4 QBs in the history of the NFL. Its not even really debatable on that.

Meanwhile both he and Allen have made it just as far in the playoff just as many times (despite Lamar missing 2 playoffs due to injury). They both have one conference championship game appearance in their entire careers.
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Allen performs better than Jackson in the playoffs, that's a fact. He needs to get over that hump too, but as of now Id take Allen over Jackson in the playoffs
 
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