Will Julius Jones be traded? Espn....

Cbz40

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Rack;1417038 said:
If you were the head coach, who would you play in goalline situations, JuJo or MB3?

I don't care about the players egos. I want the best man for the job in the game for whatever the situation.

And about the "Every down" thing, I'm not so sure JuJo is an every down back. He may be more effective (not necessarily more effective then MB3, but more effective then himself in his current role) in MB3's role except that he doesn't block as well nor catch the ball as well.

I agree about the last part though. That's my #1 preference, to have a better starter and leave MB3 right where he's at. <-- Yes, I ended the sentence with a preposition.


Do it again and you will be cained....10 lashes. :( :D
 

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Cbz40;1417044 said:
Do it again and you will be cained....10 lashes. :( :D

Oh really? Where's your cain at? :D


I don't know where it's at, but I know where it'll end up if you try to hit me with it.


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Rack;1417038 said:
If you were the head coach, who would you play in goalline situations, JuJo or MB3?

I don't care about the players egos. I want the best man for the job in the game for whatever the situation.

And about the "Every down" thing, I'm not so sure JuJo is an every down back. He may be more effective (not necessarily more effective then MB3, but more effective then himself in his current role) in MB3's role except that he doesn't block as well nor catch the ball as well.

I agree about the last part though. That's my #1 preference, to have a better starter and leave MB3 right where he's at. <-- Yes, I ended the sentence with a preposition.

dunno - we never really saw JuJo inside the 20. i'm not going to take away what barber did - and ego's or not that has to be frustrating to know you can't score a TD unless it's at the tail end of a 50 yard run. do we know jujo CAN'T put it in from inside the 20?

at least we agree on the split back stuff. gets old.
 

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theogt;1412523 said:
I'd take a 4th for him.

Isn't it ironic that we moved back with Buffalo in that draft and took JJ as I was screaming at my TV when we left Steven Jackson sitting there for the Rams? Now we would take him for a 4th? What a disaster.
 

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alancdc;1417052 said:
Isn't it ironic that we moved back with Buffalo in that draft and took JJ as I was screaming at my TV when we left Steven Jackson sitting there for the Rams? Now we would take him for a 4th? What a disaster.

:ralph:

I literally broke things when we passed on Jackson.
 

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Rack;1417055 said:
:ralph:

I literally broke things when we passed on Jackson.

Yes.....many of us did. :mad:

But.....we did get Ware which is fine.....Spears???? The jury is still out.
 

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burmafrd;1412671 said:
what a joke. Not going to happen. No way do we try and trade up that high in the draft. we would have to use NEXT years first as well. Outside of Calvin Johnson, no one is worth that (except for Quinn, of course- heh heh; had to add that to get Just Say No to have a stroke).

Adrian Peterson is very much worth trading up.
 

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Cbz40;1417057 said:
Yes.....many of us did. :mad:

But.....we did get Ware which is fine.....Spears???? The jury is still out.

True. I would like to have a healthy JJ, and a dominant Ware. We didn't get Ware out of that dfeal though did we? I thought we got Buffalo's pick which was 20? Anyway, if Spears turns it around then it could still be a nice move. I just remember that day being dumbfounded.
 

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dwmyers;1416477 said:
(1) Bill James says it's idiotic to attempt to look at a batter's stats unless he has at least 250 attempts. Otherwise, randomness gets in the way.
Being a fan of a certain player can get in the way too. "Random," for me, would be two good games, one bad one, three good ones, two bad ones, and so on. Jones' ypc kept going down until his carries were drastically decreased. That isn't randomness, it's a steady decline.

I want to see Julius do well, and I do agree that his carries had to be cut down, but it's the drop in production per carry I'm talking about. He wasn't the same back in the second half of the season.
dwmyers;1416477 said:
From my perspective, 4.1 ypc is 4.1 ypc. How many starting Parcells running backs did better?
Jones averaged 4.1 ypc while playing with six Pro Bowl or Pro Bowl calibre players on the league's 5th ranked offense. The starting RB's on the other teams in the top 5 averaged 4.9 ypc.

Of the top 10 offenses in the NFL last year, Jones' 4.1 ypc ranked 8th among starters. Only Ahman Green and Rudi Johnson had lower ypc's among top 10 offenses, and neither one of those guys had an MB3 to lighten their load for them.

By averaging at least 16.5 carries per game, Jones did something that 18 other RB's also did last year. 11 of the 18 had higher ypc's than Jones. Five of those guys (Jackson, Parker, Henry, Brown, and TBell) were on teams that didn't make the playoffs. What do you suppose any one of the five would have averaged last year in Dallas?

My guess is, in this offense, they also would've been 2nd all-time to Joe Morris on Parcells' list, but more importantly, any of them would've also been a dependable back for the stretch drive. Something Jones was not--statistically or otherwise.
 

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The Cowboys aren't exactly shopping Julius Jones, but they've told teams that have inquired about him that he's for sale for the right price. Cowboys owner-GM Jerry Jones apparently is prepared to hitch his wagon to the team's other young running back, Marion Barber.
-- Philadelphia Daily News
 

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While Jones has occasionally shown some degree of break away ability, the main concern I have with Jones is his inability to break tackles. He seems to go down too easily, and too often when the first tackler makes contact with him.
 

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People seem to forget that Julius is in the last year of his contract and probably won't be resigned, since he's probably not worth the salary he'll likely ask for and evidently the Cowboys front office isn't enomored with him.

So if it comes to trading Julius for a 3rd, you're talking about trading 1 year of Julius for 4 years of the draft pick.
 
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