Will McClay on drafting offense or defense

Daillest88

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BPA that's the best way to go. If Ryan Ramcyzk is there and all the Defense ends we want are gone what do you do?
 

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I've always believed you take the BPA that fills a need. We needed OL and we went out and got it in the draft. And we're certainly not drafting a QB or a RB this Spring. Unless we're planning on trading Dak or Zeke. :eek:

The good news is, we need almost everything on defense. So this should be an easy draft for us.
 

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I would in no way be said if Dallas picked up an athletic mauler at RT with their first round pick. Last year I really wanted Tunsil at 4 and Henry in the 2nd.
 

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I'm referring to his stay in Dallas. I was getting to has the game passed him by or was it just a matter of him not getting much from Ware and Spencer.

Ware was doing well initially under him, but injured his shoulder. Spencer hurt his knee, needed microfracture, and was never the same player. Marinelli hasn't exactly been operating with anything resembling a full deck. I don't think that he has lost his fastball.
 

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Ware was doing well initially under him, but injured his shoulder. Spencer hurt his knee, needed microfracture, and was never the same player. Marinelli hasn't exactly been operating with anything resembling a full deck. I don't think that he has lost his fastball.

How about Greg Hardy or the rare time he was out there Randy Gregory?
 

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How about Greg Hardy or the rare time he was out there Randy Gregory?

Hardy shut it down once the ******** pictures came out. Gregory did not come back well from his injured ankle in 2015, and had been suspended for all but two games since. That's not a coaching problem.

Marinelli hasn't been working with a full deck throughout his time in Dallas. If you think that he isn't an effective DL coach, that's your prerogative.
 

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Hardy shut it down once the ******** pictures came out. Gregory did not come back well from his injured ankle in 2015, and had been suspended for all but two games since. That's not a coaching problem.

Marinelli hasn't been working with a full deck throughout his time in Dallas. If you think that he isn't an effective DL coach, that's your prerogative.

I didn't say that I was just asking a question. You've made excuses for why none of these guys have done anything. Maybe those excuses are legit but they are excuses. Am I suppose to believe that this is the first time in Maranelli's career he's had guys come off injury and try and contribute?

Just asking a question.
 

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BPA that's the best way to go. If Ryan Ramcyzk is there and all the Defense ends we want are gone what do you do?

You have to ask yourself at the end of the day does your offensive line get better with Ramcyzk? I'd say no. How much better can they get at this point?
 

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You have to ask yourself at the end of the day does your offensive line get better with Ramcyzk? I'd say no. How much better can they get at this point?

Can always get better. He would be an upgrade over Doug Free
 

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If the next Julio Jones is sitting there at 28 then we are getting the next Julio Jones rather than Almost Anthony Spencer or Shante' Carver.
 

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BPA is an opinion. The draft especially after the first10 players has proven to be a real crap shoot. The Cowboys need defensive help and thats what they should draft. They should have learned their lessons regarding the mercenaries and choice FA 's very, very carefully.
If the BPA for every Cowboy pick is a center, fullback, running back, guard,or tight end we simply do not need to pick that player. BPA at pick 28 is a center.....pass. BPA within reason based on what you need. The only expecting is if it's a generational player. Once in a lifetime type dude who fell
 

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You have to ask yourself at the end of the day does your offensive line get better with Ramcyzk? I'd say no. How much better can they get at this point?

If you upgrade significantly over Doug Free, then the line can get a LOT better and the offense would add +7 points to its every game potential.
 

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If the BPA for every Cowboy pick is a center, fullback, running back, guard,or tight end we simply do not need to pick that player. BPA at pick 28 is a center.....pass. BPA within reason based on what you need. The only expecting is if it's a generational player. Once in a lifetime type dude who fell
Yep. BPA, is a load of crap. Clubs reach, its true, but they reach for what they need most. Are the Cowboys going to draft a QB with the 1 st pick...if he's deemed to be BPA?
 

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Yep. BPA, is a load of crap. Clubs reach, its true, but they reach for what they need most. Are the Cowboys going to draft a QB with the 1 st pick...if he's deemed to be BPA?
Oooooh let me answer......k k .....the answer is: no sir they will not.
 

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Well, they either take the offensive player they like best or trade down. You sure don't take a defensive player you have graded as mid 2nd rounder there. That's would be Cleveland doing that stuff.
Also, teams apparently really value the 5th year option for 1st round picks. So for them to trade down out of the first round, they would have to be overwhelmed with a trade, like a 1st round pick for next year. I can see something like this if lets say the Browns were in love with Deshaun Watson and didn't pick him with their 2nd 1st rounder and he was still on the board at 28, and they feared another team jumping their pick in the 2nd round.
 
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