Will our 1st round pick be inactive this week?

[AbeBeta]

Good grief, will we ever have a 1st round pick that does not start from day 1 not be a bust according to this board?

That doesn't make you a bust.

Not doing enough to be a game day active, now that is a different story.

But the REAL issue with Jenkins is that he's not playing slot - Scandrick is the top backup at slot CB. Jenkins has 3 very good NFL CBs in front of him at the other corner positions.

If he sits it is about numbers more than performance.

 

[AbeBeta]

Proctor can play both center and guard so Free is inactive for sure, Davis can play either tackle spot in a pinch so McQ can be inactive aswell and Holland can play in Bgg's spot if he has to. So Free and McQ, please be inactive. We need a third WR, geez just bringing 4 is thin enough, you guys still want to leave it at 3 and leave Stanback behind? The line gets trimmed down for the active roster and rightfully so. Then again, now that Burnett is back Barbie can sit on the Eagles bench for all I care. That's solves the roster issue when Hurd comes back to. Just sit Barbie.

So we would make our backup Tackles in active and completely shuffle the line if there was an injury?

No. That isn't how pro teams do it.

 

[AtlCB]

No, of course not Felix Jones. Rather, Mike Jenkins. Assuming Terence Newman, Anthony Spencer and Miles Austin all return from injury this week as planned, I see our inactive list playing out like this:

Brooks Bollinger
Sam Hurd
Doug Free
Kyle Kosier
Joe Berger
Mike Jenkins
Alan Ball
Courtney Brown

Of course, I could be wrong with these inactive "picks." However, even if Mike Jenkins was the first player in line to get on to the gameday 45 (which I'm sure he is), the only real options would be carrying only 6 offensive lineman (not a chance), or going with only 3 WRs again, and Stanback looked good enough last week for that not to happen.

Should we be upset that a first round pick was spent on a player that will be hanging out on the inactive list, or be happy since it is a testament to the massive amount of talent we have on this team?

Jenkins, Ball, and Brown are all good special teams players. At least two of them will be active.

 

[AKATheRake]

So we would make our backup Tackles in active and completely shuffle the line if there was an injury?

No. That isn't how pro teams do it.

Well there seems to be a prominent pro team that has expressed that's how they'd do it. For over 2 years, from Jerry, Parcells and Wades mouth they said they could move Bigg to tackle if either Colombo or Bigg went down or they couldn't re-sign Colombo or Flo. Kosier was brought in because he can play center and either guard position but doesn't fit into this mix for obvious reasons at this point. Cory Proctor is still here because he is Gurodes immediate backup and pardon me if I'm wrong but isn't he our starting LG currently? Is Montrae Holland not able to play LG or RG, he had played both in his career. We need more WR depth in the game, our minimum that we should be bringing is 3 and that's just right out thin, we need 4 and realisitcally pro teams usually take 5 to the game, that's how pro teams work. Last week everyone was losing sleep that we had only 3 WR's ready at most and that one of them (Stanback) was going to play injured. Now everyone thinks we can still get by like this. Yah, keep that up and then when one of the 3 WR's needs a play off or gets hurt then what? Yah pro teams only take 3 Wr's and have 2 OL for every OL position. Most pro teams take 8 OL to the game on average and have 2 OL whether starter or backup that are interchangeable from center to guard or guard to tackle. Pardon me, but I guess this is just not how pro teams work when an injury happens on the OL. They also apparently have 3 WR's active for game day. You know 8 OL is just not enough. McQ who can't play LG between 2 perrenial pro bowler's is going to be able to start at LT/RT instead. Free is definitely sitting over McQ so he isn't going. So help me make more sense of our options than please other than just saying pro teams don't work this way. Please, enlighten me, how would a pro teamwork then? Please also explain to me why Jerry Jones and wade Phillips have this dissillusion of Bigg playing tackle if needed.

 

[Hoofbite]

I doubt if Jenkins would be inactive. They're paying him first round money. Stanback would probably sit before Jenkins would.

Money shouldn't have anything to do with it. If Stanback is going to contribute more, he should be on the field.

Money, especially the small amount that Jenkins is making the grand scheme of things should not be the deciding factor.

 

[Arch Stanton]

So this gets posted about Newman......

Newman Still Listed As Limited
Posted by mickshot at 9/10/2008 4:16 PM CDT on truebluefanclub.com

On the official Cowboys' injury report following Wednesday's practice, CB Terence Newman, WR Miles Austin and LB Anthony Spencer all are listed as having limited participation. But RB Marion Barber and WR Isaiah Stanback fully participated in the workout, according to the report the Cowboys must file with the NFL.

And once again working with the first-team offense in the injured absence of starting left guard Kyle Kosier is Cory Procter. Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips said after practice Procter once again will be his starter at left guard come Monday night.

Kosier and Sam Hurd were the only two not participating in practice.

- Mickey Spagnola

.....and yet Jenkins will be inactive. I'd very much doubt he'd be inactive even with a completely fit Newman. Gawd, my head hurts.

 

[AKATheRake]

Money shouldn't have anything to do with it. If Stanback is going to contribute more, he should be on the field.

Money, especially the small amount that Jenkins is making the grand scheme of things should not be the deciding factor.

Newman, Henry, Pacman, Scandrick and Jenkins will all be active. We need all five especially when we go to dime and take Roy out. Special teams too. Free, McQ and Barbie if absolutely needed should be told to sit. This is the problem of having a SS that can't cover anyone, you need to load up on other cover players. This is the problem when you have to have a guy like Keith Davis for special teams and really he won't contribute in the secondary. 1 trick poney's. Jenkins is in alot of our packages and is important, that is why he was drafted as well as Scandrick. Once Burnett is playing, other than ST's what does Barbie do? Jenkins and Scandrick, can also return and cover on ST's, also involded in many nickel and dime packages, plus Newman is hobbled a bit. I like to think the 2 rookie CB's are more important than Barbie the no trick poney.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

good to have tough decisions to make--that is why Wade gets the big bucks

 

[zeromaster]

Jenkins has been a bust so far. Scandrick has severely outplayed him.

eduncan, is that you?

 

[AbeBeta]

Well there seems to be a prominent pro team that has expressed that's how they'd do it. For over 2 years, from Jerry, Parcells and Wades mouth they said they could move Bigg to tackle if either Colombo or Bigg went down or they couldn't re-sign Colombo or Flo.

First, that is a LONG-term change not an in-game change and second that was all about leverage in contract talks with those guys. Bigg is clearly best suited to guard and everyone, including Bigg, knows it.

Kosier was brought in because he can play center and either guard position but doesn't fit into this mix for obvious reasons at this point.

Wrong on two counts. First, Kosier came here b/c he was a G who had experience at TACKLE. Second he does fit and has established himself as the starter.

Cory Proctor is still here because he is Gurodes immediate backup and pardon me if I'm wrong but isn't he our starting LG currently?

Point? None.

Is Montrae Holland not able to play LG or RG, he had played both in his career. We need more WR depth in the game, our minimum that we should be bringing is 3 and that's just right out thin, we need 4 and realisitcally pro teams usually take 5 to the game, that's how pro teams work. Last week everyone was losing sleep that we had only 3 WR's ready at most and that one of them (Stanback) was going to play injured. Now everyone thinks we can still get by like this. Yah, keep that up and then when one of the 3 WR's needs a play off or gets hurt then what? Yah pro teams only take 3 Wr's and have 2 OL for every OL position. Most pro teams take 8 OL to the game on average and have 2 OL whether starter or backup that are interchangeable from center to guard or guard to tackle. Pardon me, but I guess this is just not how pro teams work when an injury happens on the OL. They also apparently have 3 WR's active for game day. You know 8 OL is just not enough. McQ who can't play LG between 2 perrenial pro bowler's is going to be able to start at LT/RT instead. Free is definitely sitting over McQ so he isn't going. So help me make more sense of our options than please other than just saying pro teams don't work this way. Please, enlighten me, how would a pro teamwork then? Please also explain to me why Jerry Jones and wade Phillips have this dissillusion of Bigg playing tackle if needed.

Dude, use some punctuation or something.

Let's go over this again.

We aren't going into the game with only two backup OL players. Many teams aren't comfortable dressing only 8 yet you want us to dress 7, with none of the backups having tackle experience.

Again, the last thing any team wants is to have to shuffle the entire line because of a single injury. Line play is all about consistency and 99 times out of 100 a team will prefer to make ONE sub rather than move guys around to make multiple subs.

So again. We dress 8 OL and that's it. You can try to argue the "logic" of doing otherwise but you won't see that on Monday night.

 

[alby]

Put Jenkins in at KR so he can do something with that speed/athleticsm and keep Stanback away from KR bc obviously he can't take the hits back there. Crayton shouldn't be returning punts, it should strictly be Adam.

KR - Felix / Jenkins / Scandrick
PR - Jones

 

[thechosen1n2]

Money shouldn't have anything to do with it. If Stanback is going to contribute more, he should be on the field.

Money, especially the small amount that Jenkins is making the grand scheme of things should not be the deciding factor.

you are right and thats already been proven. If the cowboys were worried about who was making the most money, scandrick would not have gotten the nod over jenkins in the first game.

whoever is needed most for the game is who will suited up.

 

[TheCount]

Jenkins has been a bust so far. Scandrick has severely outplayed him.

You've been a bust, I wish we could cut you.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

We have to have Brooks Bollinger active.... have to.......

 

[AbeBeta]

You've been a bust, I wish we could cut you.

Seriously. I can't believe we wasted a 3rd on Brandon

 

[theogt]

Well there seems to be a prominent pro team that has expressed that's how they'd do it. For over 2 years, from Jerry, Parcells and Wades mouth they said they could move Bigg to tackle if either Colombo or Bigg went down or they couldn't re-sign Colombo or Flo. Kosier was brought in because he can play center and either guard position but doesn't fit into this mix for obvious reasons at this point. Cory Proctor is still here because he is Gurodes immediate backup and pardon me if I'm wrong but isn't he our starting LG currently? Is Montrae Holland not able to play LG or RG, he had played both in his career. We need more WR depth in the game, our minimum that we should be bringing is 3 and that's just right out thin, we need 4 and realisitcally pro teams usually take 5 to the game, that's how pro teams work. Last week everyone was losing sleep that we had only 3 WR's ready at most and that one of them (Stanback) was going to play injured. Now everyone thinks we can still get by like this. Yah, keep that up and then when one of the 3 WR's needs a play off or gets hurt then what? Yah pro teams only take 3 Wr's and have 2 OL for every OL position. Most pro teams take 8 OL to the game on average and have 2 OL whether starter or backup that are interchangeable from center to guard or guard to tackle. Pardon me, but I guess this is just not how pro teams work when an injury happens on the OL. They also apparently have 3 WR's active for game day. You know 8 OL is just not enough. McQ who can't play LG between 2 perrenial pro bowler's is going to be able to start at LT/RT instead. Free is definitely sitting over McQ so he isn't going. So help me make more sense of our options than please other than just saying pro teams don't work this way. Please, enlighten me, how would a pro teamwork then? Please also explain to me why Jerry Jones and wade Phillips have this dissillusion of Bigg playing tackle if needed.

Why is Free sitting over McQuistan? He's been ahead of him on the depth chart. And, yes, we will most certainly take a swing tackle to the game. We did it all last year, despite your claims of Davis being the backup option at tackle. It's silly to think otherwise.

You take your 5 starters, your backup G/C (Holland) and your swing tackle (Free).

 

[LucaBrasi]

I think the inactives look more like this for Philly:

Bollinger
Kosier
Free
Holland/Berger
Hurd
Ball
Brown
Spencer

Wade seems to feel comfortable dressing 7 o-lineman, so 3 guys are inactive there. I saw Berger on the sideline last weekend so I'm assuming Holland was inactive( I was at the game). If he's ready, Berger sits. I don't think Spencer will be ready so he sits another week.
As to why McQusitan over Free, McQuistan can play guard or Tackle - not well, but that's why he dresses. He's also on the kickoff return team don't know if Free has worked there or not.

 

[theogt]

I think the inactives look more like this for Philly:

Bollinger
Kosier
Free
Holland/Berger
Hurd
Ball
Brown
Spencer

Wade seems to feel comfortable dressing 7 o-lineman, so 3 guys are inactive there. I saw Berger on the sideline last weekend so I'm assuming Holland was inactive( I was at the game). If he's ready, Berger sits. I don't think Spencer will be ready so he sits another week.
As to why McQusitan over Free, McQuistan can play guard or Tackle - not well, but that's why he dresses. He's also on the kickoff return team don't know if Free has worked there or not.

So you'd take McQuistan over Free because he can backup guard (miserably), but you'd also take a backup guard? Makes no sense. Any of our O-linemen could backup guard as pitifully as McQuistan.

 

[LucaBrasi]

McQustan's the swing tackle. he can also play guard, the more versatile the likely you are to dress especially at that position. If you can show me where Free has done anything to dress over him, I'm listening. Like I said, and you ignored, the Cowboys had McQuistan on the kickoff return team, has Free ever done that? If so, fine you dress him over Mcq.

 

[Tobal]

The reason it would be McQistan over free would be because he has some experience at both tackles.

I'm not sure about Free

Proctor is the backup center so if he'd move to center and whichever guy they have active would play LG..... Then one tackle will be used to backup both tackles.

Parcells went 7 several times, but he didn't like it.

Usually you go the reserve center. guard and tackle ... 8 OL