Williams a liability?

BigDFan5

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I love when people are asked to name names they just start naming people they know and half of them end up being FS not SS
 

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Hostile;1857977 said:
The idea of a Roy Bashing Zone has been brought up like we did for the TO Zone. We caught more flack for having created that Zone than was imagineable. I doubt we'll be in any hurry to do that again.

I've mentioned adding a Roy Williams Bashing Zone, because of the previous T.O. Zone, but didn't realize it was so hated.
 

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Hostile;1857977 said:
I'd love to but it never works. There's always someone who thinks the idea they have about Roy is new and original and deserves its own thread. They are so special.

I cannot understand this. I guess people think they have this insanely original thought that they would hate to have it buried in a 30 post thread :rolleyes: but that's very seldom true.

The idea of a Roy Bashing Zone has been brought up like we did for the TO Zone. We caught more flack for having created that Zone than was imagineable. I doubt we'll be in any hurry to do that again.

You think it's bad now? Wait until the off season. I already am ready to spend all that time on a beach in Mexico just thinking about it. I got find the right bank to rob first though. ;)

It should just be one continual epic merge. We could call you the merge-master.
 

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I really want to like Roy. He's a servicable safety. I just don't think he can stop himself from horse collaring. It's like a drug for him and I'm really worried.
 

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You guys don't really want these #31 threads to stop.How would you show off your smug superiority?
 

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cowboyed;1857814 said:
It is not just the fans who are obsessed with his perceived regression or apathy but you hear it from sportswriters, analysts, coaches and opposing players. Can they all be wrong and Roy's diminishing faction of fans right?

You mean the same coaches and players that voted him back to the probowl?
 

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Vtwin;1858087 said:
You guys don't really want these #31 threads to stop.How would you show off your smug superiority?
I see what you did there.
 

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superpunk;1858036 said:
I cannot understand this. I guess people think they have this insanely original thought that they would hate to have it buried in a 30 post thread :rolleyes: but that's very seldom true.



It should just be one continual epic merge. We could call you the merge-master.
The funniest thing SP is when someone starts a new thread and announces that they felt their idea deserved its own thread.

I merge them. :D The merge master reigns.

On occasion the threads have different ideas being put forth and we don't merge them. I admit it, I hate those days. Merge until they purge. That's my motto.
 

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THEHEREAFTER;1858040 said:
I really want to like Roy. He's a servicable safety. I just don't think he can stop himself from horse collaring. It's like a drug for him and I'm really worried.
If three times in one season is comparable to a drug addiction, then I guess I'm an alcoholic.
 

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ddh33;1857970 said:
Actually, I think that is about the biggest reason why there is so much more complaining about Roy. When he was the only good player on this defense and the only real playmaker, he looked a lot better. I don't even think he was considerably better - he just looked it.

Back then, the team was playing a 4-3, and Roy got to make tackles like a LB. Now, you're in a 3-4, and there is one more LB out there to gobble up a lot of those tackles. And does anyone notice that Roy still makes a big share of those tackles?

Back then, you had below average corners who seemed to have someone running free quite a bit. Roy would chase those receivers down or lay some vicious hits. Now, your corners are much better so teams are attacking differently. They go after LBs and Ss in coverage because they are the weaker link many times. And yes, folks, virtually every safety in this league is weaker in coverage than his team's corners...

Back then, Roy looked fantastic because he was surrounded by players who weren't as good. Now, Roy is still awfully good - Pro-Bowl level even - but there are many more players on this team who are also very good. As a result, Roy doesn't look like the same guy. He looks like a weak link, even when it's not necessarily true. He doesn't have friends in the media like other players on this team do who will try to protect him. He doesn't even have many people in the stands who have the much perspective. Fans just spew venom towards him because that's what they have heard, and it must be right...and they never watch the other guys in the league to see that Roy is still one of the best in the game at his position.
What a fantastic post. I had never thought of it from that perspective. I think you are onto something.
 

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jay cee;1858366 said:
What a fantastic post. I had never thought of it from that perspective. I think you are onto something.
Yeah, I have to agree, that was unique, well thought out, and makes a lot of sense.
 

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Hostile;1858379 said:
Yeah, I have to agree, that was unique, well thought out, and makes a lot of sense.


Can we get the merge happening soon?

Enquiring minds want to KNOW !!
 

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zrinkill;1858103 said:
You mean the same coaches and players that voted him back to the probowl?

Do you have the breakdown of the vote, and wasn't Roy voted in as an alternate. Larry Allen was voted into the pro-bowl a few times too many as well toward the end of his tenure with the Cowboys and I believe also with the 49rs.

Some guys do get voted in on past deeds do they not? So in part it is a popularity contest. How many defensive player of the week or month has he garnered over the last few years.

I would be soiling your reply with great alacrity but your signature of the new stadium is getting to me and making me grin.
 

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he's a liability and we need to get someone in there to replace him. maybe not next year because of the money we have invested in him and we have other areas of need, but i definitely wouldn't mind us drafting a safety in next years draft.
 
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