Williams, Dallas Cowboys defensive coaches clear the air

[theebs]

He has a great attitude towards the fans. I dont know why he is saying they are only there when things are going good, this guy has had as much support from fans as any cowboy I can remember.


Williams, Dallas Cowboys defensive coaches clear the air


[SIZE=+1]Pro Bowler says he feels better about his role after meeting[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]01:43 AM CDT on Sunday, May 11, 2008[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]By CALVIN WATKINS / The Dallas Morning News[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]cwatkins@***BANNED-URL***[/SIZE]

Defensive coordinator Brian Stewart and safeties coach Brett Maxie summoned Pro Bowl strong safety Roy Williams to Valley Ranch for a meeting Friday to talk about his commitment to the Cowboys.
Williams said he was happy with the 90-minute meeting and has confidence he will find a comfort zone in the Cowboys' defense.
Two weeks ago, Williams said he has been trying to find a comfort level in the 3-4 defense. He repeated the stance Saturday, but said the meeting with the coaches told him his involvement in the defense will increase.
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"The communication was not there last year," Williams said. "We recognized the problem, and we talked about it. And we're going to move forward now. We have a better understanding."
The coaches saw two things that prompted the meeting.
Williams missed two days of teaching sessions at Valley Ranch last week to finalize plans for his Roy Williams Safety Net Foundation pre-Mother's Day event for single mothers. The event was Saturday.
Then, Maxie and Stewart read comments from veteran outside linebacker Greg Ellis saying Williams appears to isolate himself from teammates during workouts.
Williams said he loves his teammates and wants to play for the Cowboys. He said he concentrates better by himself during weightlifting and running.
"I appreciate what Greg did, but at the same time, I'm a grown man, too, and I can speak for myself," said Williams, who still considers Ellis a friend. "If I want to be heard, I will be heard."
Last week, Ellis said he was trying to defend Williams against negative comments from fans who don't believe the strong safety is still a good player. Williams likes to interact with fans and posed for pictures with some Saturday at the event. But life with fans can be tricky.
"I'm tired about worrying about the fans," Williams said. "The fans are only around when things are good. I want supporters. At the end of the day, we're human beings, too. Everything can't be perfect, and you can't let your emotions rule over you being a human being. It gets to a point where you are abusing who you really are as a fan."
During the meeting Stewart and Maxie questioned Williams based on Ellis' comments.
"There was nothing wrong," Williams said. "You miss two days, and you see that stuff in the paper. And they say, 'what's really going on?' "

 

[CATCH17]

blah blah blah

Just start playing at a high level again.

 

[Hostile]

He has a great attitude towards the fans. I dont know why he is saying they are only there when things are going good, this guy has had as much support from fans as any cowboy I can remember.

blah blah blah

Just start playing at a high level again.

Perhaps stuff like this is why.

Sorry, I just happen to think he is right. I also think the fans have a right to expect more of him.

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He is the new Quincy Carter of this team. Everything said about him positive or negative will illicit a reactionary response.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Perhaps stuff like this is why.

Sorry, I just happen to think he is right. I also think the fans have a right to expect more of him.

In addition to this thread, currently on Page 1 of this forum alone. There are 5 more in the Daily Zone counting one with the same first article.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118502

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118528

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118534

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118493

He is the new Quincy Carter of this team. Everything said about him positive or negative will illicit a reactionary response.

Good point HoS i would also like to say when the team sucked everyone loved Roy as the team got better everyone started to dislike RW. It all started when starting saying he couldn't cover since then that his been on of the biggest knocks on him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

"I'm tired about worrying about the fans," Williams said. "The fans are only around when things are good. I want supporters. "

Roy hasn't been hanging around the CowboysZone much has he.

 

[theebs]

I dont know hos. He has been given a ton of fan support. Until this season he got the loudest applause when introduced.

And the reason he is kind of a focal point most of the time is because he is a fan favorite and a face of the franchise player. I think any athlete should know that when you are the face for a number of years you are going to be under intense scrutiny.

He has repeatedly said bad things about the fans. I dont know what he expects. He gets a ton of applause, his jersey sales were great for years and he keeps getting voted to the pro bowl.

What does he have to be so upset about? Maybe he reads too many columns in the paper or just gets feedback from the 5 minute after the game reactionary fan.

There were still plenty of 31 jerseys in the stadium last year. I wore mine to the vikings game. I dont know what else you can do as a fan to support the guy than cheer for him in the stadium and buy his jersey?

I just think the culmination of his poor play, the playoff losses, the rising stars of ware, witten and romo and the fact that he was taken off the field alot last year and lost his starting streak has made him bitter. I dont get taking it out on the fans though.

 

[Hostile]

I dont know hos. He has been given a ton of fan support. Until this season he got the loudest applause when introduced.

Do you deny that a LOT of the support he gets is in reaction to the flack he takes?

There are more negative posts about this player than the rest of the roster combined. You say he's a good man, people will actually say they wish he had some criminal in him so he was mean again. You say he's a Christian, you'll get a response that he hasn't hit anyone since he found God. The depths people will go to cannot be probed with the imagination.

 

[Frosty]

RW is another millionaire whinner, I dont think he complains when he cashes those checks every week.

 

[CATCH17]

I wouldnt be as nearly upset if he wasnt so highly payed, we didnt use a top 10 pick on him, and he hadnt shown at one point to be so freakin dominant.

 

[SDogo]

My problem with Roy.

My fondest memory of Roy is during a Giants game a few years ago when Amani Toomer was in his ear all game and Roy warned him his time was coming only to see it happen when Roy leveled Toomer and knocked him out cold.

My newest memories of Roy seem to start the same but have totally different endings. Players are now in his ear all game and all he does his turn his back and proceed to watch them run by him.

I have no doubt the talent is still there I just doubt the heart is.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I wouldnt be as nearly upset if he wasnt so highly payed, we didnt use a top 10 pick on him, and he hadnt shown at one point to be so freakin dominant.

I dont care so much about him getting paid alot... actually I dont care at all.


What I care about is...

He used to play one way

Now he plays another way

 

[CATCH17]

I dont care so much about him getting paid alot... actually I dont care at all.


What I care about is...

He used to play one way

Now he plays another way

I wouldnt either if there wasnt a salary cap. He could make a billion dollars if there was no salary cap for all I care.

 

[Frosty]

I wouldnt be as nearly upset if he wasnt so highly payed, we didnt use a top 10 pick on him, and he hadnt shown at one point to be so freakin dominant.

If the cowboys would of known then, what they no now. Would they of still used the top 10 Draft pick on him as well as give him those Big Bucks or could he be replaced by lower teir FA/Rookie.

 

[Hypnotoad]

I really am starting to feel bad for the guy...

Ellis had no right to call him out like that.

 

[theebs]

Do you deny that a LOT of the support he gets is in reaction to the flack he takes?

There are more negative posts about this player than the rest of the roster combined. You say he's a good man, people will actually say they wish he had some criminal in him so he was mean again. You say he's a Christian, you'll get a response that he hasn't hit anyone since he found God. The depths people will go to cannot be probed with the imagination.

It is right now. That is after a pretty ordinary season. He is a hot button topic I believe because fans loved him so much. He was the one glimmer of hope in 02 on a worthless team of nobodies. He stuck out, he was the star. People wont let him have a down moment because of that.

Right now most of the support he gets on this board is in reaction to the over the top hatred. I agree on that. I dont see that in the stadium though, there are still plenty of 31's walking around and he always gets a huge rise out of the crowd when he is introduced and when he is around the ball.

The other stuff is just offseason fodder for a board as large and popular as this one. The easiest thing to do is be negative and pick out an individual or particular area and attack it. That is what happens to roy.

I truly believe that if he wasnt part of those two TD's on monday night football against the skins most of this wouldnt be happening. Its like people still wont forgive him or stop blaming him for that last 5 minutes.

I like the guy, I am hoping he bounces back this year. He was pretty ordinary last year, maybe he was distrought over coming off the field or felt out of place. I dont know, I also think sometimes he looks like he is protecting his right shoulder, I dont know if that is true or not it just looks like it sometimes.

For me personally, I like him but I expect him to be a positive player not a liability for various reasons. Little things like the seattle playoff game where newman makes a play and tips it roy who intercepts it. He then pulls his jersey to pull his pro bowl patch down and gloat. I dont understand that. And what happens next, he gets a TD thrown right at him and then in the most crtical moment of the season he hits the wrong gap and gets eaten up by a lineman and alexander goes for 20 yards and a first down. You cant have it both ways. You cant be on the cover of the media guide and on the program and be a star and flash your pro bowl emblem and then make two terrible plays that cost your team.

I think the fans go overboard attacking him and I also think he is guilty of bad judgement. Fans want to love him again but he makes statements like fans are only there when things are good, sure tell that to all of us who shell out season ticket prices, parking prices, program prices, sunday ticket prices....its simply not true and he doesnt have to attack the whole fan base because of a few poor fans.

Every good player in this era of every sport gets dogged because of the criteria of the media, the sensationalized right now media. Its all about opinion and reaction and he along with most known names is an easy target. It has to be tough to be a pro athlete from that perspective in this era. Nobody can ever do enough to shelter themselves from the negative attack on the horizon by some fanbase or media outlet. IN this culture, 49ers fans would find a reason to attack montana in the 80s. Its the beast that drives talk radio and boards like this, you take the good with the bad.

again, I am pulling for the guy. I would love to see him bounce back and have a terrific season and help this team into february. I just wish he would stop throwing gas on the fire when he makes comments about the fans and the media. The reaction to that type of thing is obvious. Even mickey spagnola was killing him this past week.

 

[Alexander]

He is the new Quincy Carter of this team. Everything said about him positive or negative will illicit a reactionary response.

Someone has to do it.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

It is right now. That is after a pretty ordinary season. He is a hot button topic I believe because fans loved him so much. He was the one glimmer of hope in 02 on a worthless team of nobodies. He stuck out, he was the star. People wont let him have a down moment because of that.

Right now most of the support he gets on this board is in reaction to the over the top hatred. I agree on that. I dont see that in the stadium though, there are still plenty of 31's walking around and he always gets a huge rise out of the crowd when he is introduced and when he is around the ball.

The other stuff is just offseason fodder for a board as large and popular as this one. The easiest thing to do is be negative and pick out an individual or particular area and attack it. That is what happens to roy.

I truly believe that if he wasnt part of those two TD's on monday night football against the skins most of this wouldnt be happening. Its like people still wont forgive him or stop blaming him for that last 5 minutes.

I like the guy, I am hoping he bounces back this year. He was pretty ordinary last year, maybe he was distrought over coming off the field or felt out of place. I dont know, I also think sometimes he looks like he is protecting his right shoulder, I dont know if that is true or not it just looks like it sometimes.

For me personally, I like him but I expect him to be a positive player not a liability for various reasons. Little things like the seattle playoff game where newman makes a play and tips it roy who intercepts it. He then pulls his jersey to pull his pro bowl patch down and gloat. I dont understand that. And what happens next, he gets a TD thrown right at him and then in the most crtical moment of the season he hits the wrong gap and gets eaten up by a lineman and alexander goes for 20 yards and a first down. You cant have it both ways. You cant be on the cover of the media guide and on the program and be a star and flash your pro bowl emblem and then make two terrible plays that cost your team.

I think the fans go overboard attacking him and I also think he is guilty of bad judgement. Fans want to love him again but he makes statements like fans are only there when things are good, sure tell that to all of us who shell out season ticket prices, parking prices, program prices, sunday ticket prices....its simply not true and he doesnt have to attack the whole fan base because of a few poor fans.

Every good player in this era of every sport gets dogged because of the criteria of the media, the sensationalized right now media. Its all about opinion and reaction and he along with most known names is an easy target. It has to be tough to be a pro athlete from that perspective in this era. Nobody can ever do enough to shelter themselves from the negative attack on the horizon by some fanbase or media outlet. IN this culture, 49ers fans would find a reason to attack montana in the 80s. Its the beast that drives talk radio and boards like this, you take the good with the bad.

again, I am pulling for the guy. I would love to see him bounce back and have a terrific season and help this team into february. I just wish he would stop throwing gas on the fire when he makes comments about the fans and the media. The reaction to that type of thing is obvious. Even mickey spagnola was killing him this past week.

does he need to have 100 tackles and 6 picks for him to play like his old self ? I don't understand where your coming from if we get anything more from this man he will prob be missing a liver.

 

[CATCH17]

I agree with theebs.

Just because I point out the obvious doesnt mean im not cheering for the guy.

When he is on his A game he is possibly the best safety ever.

I dont think anyone is not rooting for the guy. If your rooting against him thats just dumb.

 

[SDogo]

I agree with theebs.

Just because I point out the obvious doesnt mean im not cheering for the guy.

When he is on his A game he is possibly the best safety ever.

I dont think anyone is not rooting for the guy. If your rooting against him thats just dumb.

Good grief! Thank you for making sense!

Where do I sign up?

 

[Hostile]

Someone has to do it.

Then why acted shocked that he feels it when we can clearly see it? I try and stay out of these threads any more. In fact if you look at the links I provided you'll find that I responded in exactly one of them, the one about a chopper and I talked about motorcycles and hot rods, not Roy.

A guy who provides more useful info than almost anyone has "lost respect" because he sees Roy differently and defends him.

Yeah, that makes sense.

When people suggest that Roy should take some steroids to regain his lost edge, it's past the point of ridiculous.