Winning with non athletic qb

Adiba1977 · Monday at 1:29 PM

Unless elite passer nearly impossible to win significant games in today’s nfl. Running by the qb is important. Can’t be slow and lumbering with mentality to not run. Only going to get worse as time goes on unfortunately for us.

nate dizzle · Monday at 1:40 PM

He looks so incredibly slow out there. Like running in mud slow.

MysteryIceGuro · Monday at 1:43 PM

Unless you’re an elite passer like Rodgers, I agree. Young, fast, athleticism is the way to go. Yet we got someone that is neither.

Just a joke all around. Maybe if we can convert the NFL into a circus show, we’d be number 1.

Cowboy4ever · Monday at 1:44 PM

That's just not true:

Mahomes - can run but wants to throw first - really the only true dual threat QB in the NFL currently.
Stafford - a Statue
Brady - a Statue
Foles - a Statue
P. Manning - Statue
Wilson - was good at both at the time
Flacco - Statue
E. Manning - Statue

Those are the QB winners in the last 13 SB. Most are not very athletic and Brady and P. Manning are the only statues that I would consider elite level passers. Stafford - very good but inconsistent QB, Foles - great run as the QB but wasn't good prior or after that run, Flacco had an amazing playoff year but is a very meh QB- same for Eli.

Dak is more than Athletic enough to win games in the NFL, he can get out and move around and run on occassion. His athletic ability is not what is hurting this team,, his mental toughness on the other hand..

CanadianCowboysFan · Monday at 1:46 PM

Adiba1977 said:
Unless elite passer nearly impossible to win significant games in today’s nfl. Running by the qb is important. Can’t be slow and lumbering with mentality to not run. Only going to get worse as time goes on unfortunately for us.

fair although it does seem some do like Herbert, lesser extent Burrow. It does seem that it is almost more important for a QB to be a 3rd RB who can throw a few passes, than a QB who can run a few times.

goshann · Monday at 1:47 PM

Cowboy4ever said:
That's just not true:

Mahomes - can run but wants to throw first - really the only true dual threat QB in the NFL currently.
Stafford - a Statue
Brady - a Statue
Foles - a Statue
P. Manning - Statue
Wilson - was good at both at the time
Flacco - Statue
E. Manning - Statue

Those are the QB winners in the last 13 SB. Most are not very athletic and Brady and P. Manning are the only statues that I would consider elite level passers. Stafford - very good but inconsistent QB, Foles - great run as the QB but wasn't good prior or after that run, Flacco had an amazing playoff year but is a very meh QB- same for Eli.

Dak is more than Athletic enough to win games in the NFL, he can get out and move around and run on occassion. His athletic ability is not what is hurting this team,, his mental toughness on the other hand..

I’m definitely not a Dak hater, but I’d rather have a QB that is quicker and can get away from the rush

Romo was slow but way more evasive

It’s an issue IMO - especially because his pocket aware was isn’t the best

Cowboy4ever · Monday at 1:50 PM

goshann said:
I’m definitely not a Dak hater, but I’d rather have a QB that is quicker and can get away from the rush

Romo was slow but way more evasive

It’s an issue IMO - especially because his pocket aware was isn’t the best

I am not one to defend Dak, at all. I just didn't agree with the statement that it takes a running QB to win games. I don't think his ability to run or being slow etc is what's hurting the team. His lack of mental toughness and being inconsistent though are way more hurtful to the team than his legs. But he is who we have for the foreseable future so...

Mac_MaloneV1 · Monday at 1:54 PM

Anyone who doesn't think Dak isn't mobile enough to win games doesn't know what they're talking about.

Jipper · Monday at 1:55 PM

goshann said:
I’m definitely not a Dak hater, but I’d rather have a QB that is quicker and can get away from the rush

Romo was slow but way more evasive

It’s an issue IMO - especially because his pocket aware was isn’t the best

Remember that spin out move against JJ watt for the td….that was amazing

Cowboys5217 · Monday at 1:56 PM

Dak is too easy to sack, and I'm the poet who didn't know it.

FanofJerry · Monday at 1:58 PM

Im not aware of the 3rd string QB rule that was newly implemented...

But if he is allowed to play...

Why would Dak be the 2 point conversion QB? Seems like Lance is who I would put in to put pressure on the defense to stop a guy with serious legs.

Cowboys5217 · Monday at 1:59 PM

Cowboy4ever said:
That's just not true:

Mahomes - can run but wants to throw first - really the only true dual threat QB in the NFL currently.
Stafford - a Statue
Brady - a Statue
Foles - a Statue
P. Manning - Statue
Wilson - was good at both at the time
Flacco - Statue
E. Manning - Statue

Those are the QB winners in the last 13 SB. Most are not very athletic and Brady and P. Manning are the only statues that I would consider elite level passers. Stafford - very good but inconsistent QB, Foles - great run as the QB but wasn't good prior or after that run, Flacco had an amazing playoff year but is a very meh QB- same for Eli.

Dak is more than Athletic enough to win games in the NFL, he can get out and move around and run on occassion. His athletic ability is not what is hurting this team,, his mental toughness on the other hand..

Those guys all have a quicker release than Dak. They all have/had a better deep ball. Dak is poor in many areas right now. He's doesn't elude sacks much at all anymore, is slow on the release, can't hit a deep ball, isn't an effective runner, and is poor at improvised plays when things break down.

TheMarathonContinues · Monday at 2:06 PM

Cowboy4ever said:
That's just not true:

Mahomes - can run but wants to throw first - really the only true dual threat QB in the NFL currently.
Stafford - a Statue
Brady - a Statue
Foles - a Statue
P. Manning - Statue
Wilson - was good at both at the time
Flacco - Statue
E. Manning - Statue

Those are the QB winners in the last 13 SB. Most are not very athletic and Brady and P. Manning are the only statues that I would consider elite level passers. Stafford - very good but inconsistent QB, Foles - great run as the QB but wasn't good prior or after that run, Flacco had an amazing playoff year but is a very meh QB- same for Eli.

Dak is more than Athletic enough to win games in the NFL, he can get out and move around and run on occassion. His athletic ability is not what is hurting this team,, his mental toughness on the other hand..

Yeah this is a stupid take if you can’t throw from
The pocket you are cooked.

TheMarathonContinues · Monday at 2:07 PM

Cowboys5217 said:
Those guys all have a quicker release than Dak. They all have/had a better deep ball. Dak is poor in many areas right now. He's doesn't elude sacks much at all anymore, is slow on the release, can't hit a deep ball, isn't an effective runner, and is poor at improvised plays when things break down.

That’s one of his best characteristics is when things break down all his biggest plays come from him leaving the pocket and throwing form the run. Not sure what you guys are watching.

TheMarathonContinues · Monday at 2:08 PM

FanofJerry said:
Im not aware of the 3rd string QB rule that was newly implemented...

But if he is allowed to play...

Why would Dak be the 2 point conversion QB? Seems like Lance is who I would put in to put pressure on the defense to stop a guy with serious legs.

Because Lance can’t throw.

TheMarathonContinues · Monday at 2:09 PM

Mac_MaloneV1 said:
Anyone who doesn't think Dak isn't mobile enough to win games doesn't know what they're talking about.

Just clueless and have no idea what they are watching. As immobile as Flacco, Eli and Foles were…they want me to believe that mobility is what’s wrong because everyone is Lamar who btw doesn’t win either.

CATCH17 · Monday at 2:09 PM

MysteryIceGuro said:
Unless you’re an elite passer like Rodgers, I agree. Young, fast, athleticism is the way to go. Yet we got someone that is neither.

Just a joke all around. Maybe if we can convert the NFL into a circus show, we’d be number 1.

You can win with Dak.

You can’t pay Dak and build a championship roster.

That’s always been the problem.

TheMarathonContinues · Monday at 2:10 PM

CATCH17 said:
You can win with Dak.

You can’t pay Dak and build a championship roster.

That’s always been the problem.

That’s everyone’s dilemma right now though. Only guys winning rings are Mahomes and Brady lol. Cowboys issues stem from the trenches and you can’t fix the trenches and being toughness with a pocket book.

Typhus · Monday at 2:12 PM

nate dizzle said:
He looks so incredibly slow out there. Like running in mud slow.

How fast could you run with that much cash in your pockets?

FanofJerry · Monday at 2:13 PM

TheMarathonContinues said:
Because Lance can’t throw.

I get it. I think my goal would be to have him score with his legs as the number one priority.

Remove risk of interception.

If play breaks down...at that point, try and find an open player in the end zone.

The above scenario seems to apply more stress on a defense to me.

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