With all this Cutler talk i just have to do this.

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wileedog;3074704 said:
Yeah because clearly cutting back the play book results in 3 300 yard games and 9 TD passes over 4 games.

Guess Romo must've been running all those YAC that Austin padded those stats with too, eh? :rolleyes:

You're in a very small minority to believe that Romo has not been limited in what he doing out there...This is the 'new' Romo we've been seeing - bend but don't break
 

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FCBarca;3074723 said:
Guess Romo must've been running all those YAC that Austin padded those stats with too, eh? :rolleyes:

You're in a very small minority to believe that Romo has not been limited in what he doing out there...This is the 'new' Romo we've been seeing - bend but don't break

It was a personal adjustment on his part more than a playbook adjustment. The playbook is the same right now as it was in the beginning of the year and we're mixing it up all the time. It's not like he's reading half the field like QC did. There's been absolutely zero proof that they're cutting anything back. As a matter of fact, they're adding new wrinkles all the time.
 

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StarMan;3074721 said:
Cutler's been struggling most of the year, no doubt. All I'm saying is that the jury is still out on which of these guys is the better QB. Romo has turned it around this year and I'm as happy as anyone about that. But who's to say Cutler won't do the same at some point?

Even if Cutler does "turn it around" he would still have a ways to go before he catches Romo. This takes into account stats, playoff appearences, winning the so-called "big-game", all of that stuff.

Romo has even proven to be a better "gunslinger" than Cutler and that is something they both have been criticized for...
 

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kidcrook;3074730 said:
Even if Cutler does "turn it around" he would still have a ways to go before he catches Romo. This takes into account stats, playoff appearences, winning the so-called "big-game", all of that stuff.

Romo has even proven to be a better "gunslinger" than Cutler and that is something they both have been criticized for...

All Cutler has to do is win a playoff game and he's surpassed Romo's accomplishments.
 

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StarMan;3074709 said:
Exactly what I was thinking.

Cutler isnt a bum because he threw 5 ints last night. He is a bum because he leads the league in Int's and the throw away QB that replaced him in denver is probably going to the probowl. Plus his arrogance when he heard denver tried to trade him was gross.

Plus its not just about Cutler. Its about our own QB.

If cutler turns it around and looks great while tony struggles then you can come back and say "i told you so".

Until then just relax and enjoy our QB and teams success.
 

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FCBarca;3074723 said:
You're in a very small minority to believe that Romo has not been limited in what he doing out there...This is the 'new' Romo we've been seeing - bend but don't break

That's such crap. So if a QB doesn't throw the ball 60 yards down the field every other play he's being "limited?"

Romo is still throwing over 30 times a game with a healthy 8.39 YPA. And no, that's not all Austin YAC, Romo hasn't checked down much all year.

Yes they have adopted for the most part a more short-intermediate passing game because that is what the defense is giving them. But Romo's completion rate has been phenomenal the last 4 games, his decision making good, and he's even making the spectacular plays like the goal line play vs. Atlanta.

Maybe someone should start 'limiting' Cutler, who is proving to be more of a product of Shanahan than anything.
 

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FCBarca;3074690 said:
Romo's success of late is tied in no uncertain terms to a far more restrained playbook and handcuffing him from improvising as much as he did in the past.
:laugh2:

They've expanded the playbook, not restrained it.
 

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2 things I have learned this week:

Aaron Rodgers is much better than I ever knew and might be better than Romo.

Cutler has worse self control still than Romo ever had.
 

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wileedog;3074747 said:
That's such crap. So if a QB doesn't throw the ball 60 yards down the field every other play he's being "limited?"

Exaggerate much?...Like I said, you'd be in the minority if you believed Romo isn't being limited...There's a big reason why his INTs were significantly down

wileedog;3074747 said:
Romo is still throwing over 30 times a game with a healthy 8.39 YPA. And no, that's not all Austin YAC, Romo hasn't checked down much all year.

Quoting YPA doesn't change what I pointed out if your receivers are stacking those stats with their YAC...Romo hasn't checked down much this year because his history with checking down has been one his problems...He's being limited from improvising or going away from the first/second option

wileedog;3074747 said:
Yes they have adopted for the most part a more short-intermediate passing game because that is what the defense is giving them. But Romo's completion rate has been phenomenal the last 4 games, his decision making good, and he's even making the spectacular plays like the goal line play vs. Atlanta.

What the D is giving them?...You're living in fantasy land...This has been by design, it's not sinking in for ya there champ...Romo is most certainly on a leash
 

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gUnit;3074683 said:
Cutler is leading the NFL in INT's there roofus.

Yeah, and the last 2 seasons Romo is right up there with the best of them in that dept. So what?

Cutler also has more pass attempts than ANYONE ELSE IN THE LEAGUE.

Combine that with very poor offensive line play (have you seen what Forte has done this year? Nothing), and a group of WR's that wouldn't start on any other team, and just what do you expect Cutler to do?

And lets not mention that the Bears D in the last month has been atrocious. They have been behind by 20-30 pts at halftime in 2 of the last 3 games?

Do a little more research......Roofus.
 

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superonyx;3074718 said:
What is Juvenile is taking offense to a light hearted thread that pokes some fun at our fellow cowboyszone members. We engage in back and forth pokes all in the nature of fun based around our favorite football team. You know like you do when you know an eagles fan after we beat them in their own stadium. But i guess not you. You are one of those guys who takes everything so seriously. Lighten up. You'll enjoy life a little more.
Look at how Bleu took it. It's funny.

Light hearted?...By trying to call out others?...Uhh, riiiight...Not at all about trying to pat yourself on the back prematurely.
 

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FCBarca;3074816 said:
Exaggerate much?...Like I said, you'd be in the minority if you believed Romo isn't being limited...There's a big reason why his INTs were significantly down
Oh, this cracks me up so much. Some of the people on here know so little about football, but man are they determined in their opinions. It's awesome to read.
 

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superonyx;3074738 said:
Cutler isnt a bum because he threw 5 ints last night. He is a bum because he leads the league in Int's and the throw away QB that replaced him in denver is probably going to the probowl. Plus his arrogance when he heard denver tried to trade him was gross.

That "throw away" was never as bad as people thought. But more importantly he has a very good Oline in Denver, and very good weapons in Brandon Marshall, and Eddie Royal.

None of Bears recievers can hold those guy's jock, and the offensive lines aren't even close.
 

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Ozzu;3074725 said:
It was a personal adjustment on his part more than a playbook adjustment. The playbook is the same right now as it was in the beginning of the year and we're mixing it up all the time. It's not like he's reading half the field like QC did. There's been absolutely zero proof that they're cutting anything back. As a matter of fact, they're adding new wrinkles all the time.

He's on a leash, there's no doubt about that...Adding wrinkles to the playbook doesn't change that...If anything it simply adds support to the argument that they want to keep Romo from improvising and having to sit back there in the pocket and check down or look for his 3rd option.

I suspect, for the foreseeable future, we won't be seeing Tony do that
 

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pimping myself:)

jterrell;2667191 said:
I just have two questions for the Cutler fans?

1) If Cutler was so good why did Shanahan get fired?
2) Would you be excited about a guy whose Td to INT ratio is worse than Romo's?

As to the thought Cutler carried that team the truth is those people didn't watch games in December. Cutler lost the Broncos games with bad mistakes that were eerily similar to Romo plays.

And Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal hardly qualify as having nothing.
As does having Shanahan as offensive play caller.
Something we prayed for here.

Denver was willing to ship off Cutler for Cassel.

Dallas would have laughed in the Pats face at that offer.

Cutler locally in Denver has proven to have a rather *****ly personality.
He is not so beloved there.
 

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FCBarca;3074828 said:
He's on a leash, there's no doubt about that...Adding wrinkles to the playbook doesn't change that...If anything it simply adds support to the argument that they want to keep Romo from improvising and having to sit back there in the pocket and check down or look for his 3rd option.

I suspect, for the foreseeable future, we won't be seeing Tony do that

Ok ok.. let me get this straight... if they add plays to the playbook.. then they are doing it because they are trying to reign in Romo?

If they take plays out of the playbook, they are doing it because Romo has to be put on a leash and they're dumbing it down for him?
 

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FCBarca;3074822 said:
Light hearted?...By trying to call out others?...Uhh, riiiight...Not at all about trying to pat yourself on the back prematurely.

Wow you are defensive. How could i be patting myself on the back when i dont think i even contributed to the thread back in march. I have always been a romo supporter though. But its far from a pat on the back.
It's good fun and i am having a good laugh. I laughed when i read the original post and i laugh even more now when you respond.

Thats what guys do. They call each other out. Like i said before you are the serious one that people cant have any fun with because you get all defensive over stupid stuff.

This is good stuff. You know like if one of your boys marries a fat chick and your circle of friends make pig noises and makes food jokes towards him???

Its in good fun. So what if you were wrong. Just admit it and enjoy the laugh. Sometimes you laugh, sometimes you are the laugh. Guess which one you are this time.:laugh2:
 
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