With Jerry's Commitment To A Parcells' Style Team, Who Is Our Next HC?...

sago1 said:
Assume Jones is indeed committed to the new offensive scheme and our 3-4 defense, he'll likely go with a branch off the Parcells-Belicheck tree. At this point I can't of anyone who might be of interest, but we will see in 1-2 years whenever Parcells decides he's had enough.

Some of you want Weis but decision will be whether Weis wants the Cowboys and Jerry Jones & the hassel of replacing Parcells--particularly if we can win a SB before he leaves. As for Zimmer, he could be the guy but, when Rams expressed interest in him, the Cowboys made no effort to stop it. So Zimmer may work for Parcells, but he may not be one of Parcells guys.


I disagree 100%. If Zimmer wasan't one of Parcell's guys, Zimmer would have been gone last year and Bill would have brought in a coach who was already well-versed in the 3-4 scheme as opposed to baby-walking Zim through the process. Parcells makes no qualms about eliminating components of a team that he no longer thinks are useful. The assistant coaching staff has been turned completely upsidedown since Parcells came around. To the point that we actually have to start paying a kicker because Parcells didn't like Hoffman coddling his kickers and didn't like having a buffer between himself and ANY other player (despite Hoffman's reputation for finding low-priced nobodys to come in and, more often than not, get the job done).

Zimmer IS a Parcells' guy or he would have been out the door a long time ago. I know that a lot of people are down on Zim because they believe he runs a vanilla scheme that doesn't take chances and rack up sacks and turnovers. To be fair to Zim you have to look at what the guy has had to work with since becoming DC. First off, until last year, the secondary was a mess. It's tough to blitz when you have to protect a suspect CB or safety from giving up the big play. As far as the front seven goes, in that time, tell me ONE playmaker tha we had that could have the effect of say a Dwight Freeney, or Michael Strahan. Don't get me wrong, I love Greg Ellis and his contribution to the team, but a game changer he is not. The guy has never even recorded a double digit sack season. On the other side? well, just plug in any Joe and his complimentary five sacks and there you have it. Linebackers? Dat and Dex. That's it. That was our "heart and soul". Now, once again I absolutely loved these guys and their contributions, but neither was perrennial Pro Bowler. Solid no doubt, but offenses did not game plan around Dat OR Dex. We are finally seeing a transformation of this defense which has a chance to be VERY, VERY good. And for the first time in his tenure as a DC Zimmer will not have a glaring weakness that he has to protect with scheme. I have a feeling we will see much more of an aggressive scheme this season than in others. I'm not going to predict 60% blitz packages, but you can bet that with another year under his belt in this scheme that Zim's fiery personality is going to be translated to the calls on the field. Before, Zim was asked to keep us close and not make many BIG mistakes. This year, I believe that Parcells is going to let ZIM turn things loose a bit and give the D a chance to change games. It's no secret that this team is being built around the defense. I think this is the year that we turn the beast loose. If so, Zim should deserve the same amount of credit as blame that he has gotten over the years for fielding decent defenses with few true "stars".


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I am hoping for Charlie Weiss, but I think if Jerry goes with comfort it will be Zimmer. And if he goes young, don't be surprised if Todd Bowles the secondary coach doesn't get a look. I always read very positive things about him.
 
We'll get a Sean Payton type, I doubt it will be anything fancy. I don't see this as Bill's last season however.
 
Charlie Weis is the ideal choice but dont forget about Jack Del Rio, he has Cowboy ties a loves the 3-4 as well.
 
I think we are reading too much into it when you say these guys will not work with any other coach who runs another system.

Guys play football, and get paid well to do it. A little intelligence and some skill can go along way into adapting to different coaching styles.

Now it may be to Parcells benefit to get guys who at present fit his style, but it does not mean that they only fit BP style and vice versa, there are probably guys out there that do not play BP's style but may adapt to become very good in it.
 
gbrittain said:
Weiss will not be leaving Nortre Dame any time soon. Weiss will not be the next Cowboy coach.

just like ther is no way TO would ever be a Dallas Cowboy...

oh! wait a minute...

my point is, you never know what the future holds. OR how much Jerry would be willing to shell out to get him(if he would want him as our HC) whenever the time comes for Tuna to step down.

money talks
 
Well, Weis is certainly getting a lot of votes here. It's safe to say Jerruh will have some good possibilities he can work on when BP decides to hang 'em up.
Weis, Holmgren, and Del Rio all sound possible to me.
 
draft brady quinn next year and then hire weiss when bp leaves, gah that sounds like a great plan,




i can dream if i want to!!
 
air0208 said:
draft brady quinn next year and then hire weiss when bp leaves, gah that sounds like a great plan,




i can dream if i want to!!
Were gonna have to really suck next year or Brady Quinn will have to have a real bad year for us to get him. So for the people that want Quinn you better hope he sucks this coming year but then if he sucks why would we even want him. ;) Also someone like Jack Del Rio seems like a better of happening then Weis.
 
Al Groh, Jimmy Johnson, or Charlie Weis are really the only 3 options out there.

Zimmer isn't likely to get the nod. Jones wants a championship quality coach, and Zimmer isn't really it. He doesn't want an assistant. Weis is getting head coaching experience right now, which makes him differ greatly from Zimmer. That and winning 3 championships with Belichek, and what 2 with Parcells?
 
people are gonna hate it, but Zimmer is our next coach IMO

he's learning how to run the 3-4, and the 3-4 is the staple of a Parcells' style team
 
groverat said:
He's got a buyout clause. As much as Domer fans want to believe that their program is bigger than god, it's not. The Notre Dame Fightin' Irish are not the Dallas Cowboys.

Game. Set. Match.
 
NorthTexan95 said:
Who knows who would take over. Haley? Sparano?
I'm surprised anyone even mentioned Sparano. I don't like him; I think he did a piss poor job with the OL last year. But did anyone notice that we did not let him interview with Payton for the OC job in NO? And did anyone notice that we promoted him to Asst. HC after that? Parcells seems to like this guy a lot and he may sell him to Jerry as our next HC. Don't let it be a Shocker if he is announced as the new HC of the Dallas Cowboys in a year or two.
 
It matters where Jerry/Stephen want to go.

It could be possibly any of these guys...No college coaches IMO except for Weis & Groh

Holmgren
Zimmer
Weis
Carthon
Groh
(I highly doubt Jimmy will come back but I would welcome him)
Payton after he is let go in Nawlins
Belicheck (yeah right)


We will go in the direction that either will keep the success we have together after BP leaves or if he leaves on a low note, someone different so we have a fresh start.
 
joshjwc9 said:
It matters where Jerry/Stephen want to go.

It could be possibly any of these guys...No college coaches IMO except for Weis & Groh

Holmgren
Zimmer
Weis
Carthon
Groh
(I highly doubt Jimmy will come back but I would welcome him)
Payton after he is let go in Nawlins
Belicheck (yeah right)


We will go in the direction that either will keep the success we have together after BP leaves or if he leaves on a low note, someone different so we have a fresh start.
I'm really liking this defense we are putting together and hope that whoever comes in will keep it together. But I certainly hope they bring in a new more aggressive offensive system and a new ST coach.
 
CaptainAmerica said:
Forget Stoops or any other high profile college coach, other than Charlie Weis. Weis is the logical successor to Parcells, and would be my personal choice to take over, but unfortunately, I don't think he is leaving ND anytime soon, if ever.

Perhaps Zimmer could be the guy, because he has been schooled in the Parcells way. I certainly don't want Zimmer as the HC, but it's a possibility as Parcells has invested a lot of time in Zimmer.
Please.. first and foremost stop with the Zimmer talk. If he's our next HC then that means we learned absolutely NOTHING from the Dave Campo era.

And in regards to who I would love to have as our next HC I'd have to say Charlie Weis and if I were Jerruh I'd do and pay whatever it takes to get Weis here long term.

My only other option would be possibly Groh although I'm not sure if he'd be all that great of a HC.. although he'd still likely be much better than Zimmer ever would be.
 
summerisfunner said:
people are gonna hate it, but Zimmer is our next coach IMO

he's learning how to run the 3-4, and the 3-4 is the staple of a Parcells' style team
If that's the case then it's going to be deja vu all over again and the Camp Era part Deux.
 

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