Without Cruz, Giants aren't able to compete with us

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All it would take would be for a couple untimely turnovers and a poor game by the run defense to loss this for Dallas.

Seahawks fans thought this as well in the 3rd quarter. By the 4th quarter, reality had set in again. :D
 

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The Giants were already in a bad way, but without Cruz, their offense will be entirely broken coming into Dallas.

Rueben Randle can't carry the Giants over this Cowboys team. And they're not going to have any success stopping this Offense.

Our biggest test in the coming weeks will be against the Cardinals, and honestly, they're not a very good team either.

They're 4-1, but it's what you would think looking at their record.

We have 4 difficult games left on our schedule this year.

Philly x 2
Chicago
Indianapolis

This team has no excuse for not making it to the playoffs, and we should really have no problem getting home field advantage.

Where's the reins on this wagon? I think we're going too fast.

A lot can change between now and the end of the season. I'd rather just enjoy the ride for the moment rather than putting the cart before the horse.
 

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The Giants were already in a bad way, but without Cruz, their offense will be entirely broken coming into Dallas.

Rueben Randle can't carry the Giants over this Cowboys team. And they're not going to have any success stopping this Offense.

Our biggest test in the coming weeks will be against the Cardinals, and honestly, they're not a very good team either.

They're 4-1, but it's what you would think looking at their record.

We have 4 difficult games left on our schedule this year.

Philly x 2
Chicago
Indianapolis

This team has no excuse for not making it to the playoffs, and we should really have no problem getting home field advantage.

its a division game. you never know. division games are always tough and rarely we see blowouts, given teams play each other twice a year, every year, there is element of familiarity.
 

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Agreed.

But to think the Giants can't win is goofy.

That's like saying it's possible to win the lottery. I understand where you're coming from and I realize it's any given Sunday but, I'll leave the one game at a time speech for the coaches and the football team who are doing a fine job at treating it as such. What I think guys around here are not understanding about those of us who are giddy and goofy right now is, we've a reason to be giddy and goofy. The fans around here are so used to "Well, they'll lose three in a row now." that they've forgotten to lighten up and take it all in stride. I have not seen The Cowboys play this well in half a decade if not honestly more. I bought in. For once, I bought in. I'm gonna be a fan fan and support my team by saying "I believe we will beat The Giants because we're a better football team."
 

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What's good about them?

They have the best run defense in the the league for starters. The are already ahead of both the 49ers and Seattle in their division. They have an outstanding running back in Andre Ellington. Michael Floyd is a very underrated WR and on the other side of him is Larry Fitzgerald. There is a reason they are in first place and it's not because they aren't any good.
 

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I disagree. This is a league where guys step up. And Odell Beckham, though a rookie is nothing to take for granted. It wouldn't shock me one bit if the Giants got better without Cruz. IT happens in this league time and time again. People said we wouldn't be ANYTHING without Sean Lee. No one factored in Bruce Carter and Rolando McClain would step up. You just can't predict rival games. Should we win? I believe so. But its a rival. Things change from week to week and the Giants know this is a BIG GAME for them. They are back in this race if they win. If they lose, it may put their playoff hopes to sleep.
 

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I disagree. This is a league where guys step up. And Odell Beckham, though a rookie is nothing to take for granted. It wouldn't shock me one bit if the Giants got better without Cruz. IT happens in this league time and time again. People said we wouldn't be ANYTHING without Sean Lee. No one factored in Bruce Carter and Rolando McClain would step up. You just can't predict rival games. Should we win? I believe so. But its a rival. Things change from week to week and the Giants know this is a BIG GAME for them. They are back in this race if they win. If they lose, it may put their playoff hopes to sleep.

I hope they brought comfortable pillows.
 

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Any given Sunday, and it's a divisional game anything can happen.
 

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We have a legit chance at being 10-1 when Philly comes to town...

I agree. Yes, on "Any Given Sunday" but this year Dallas holds every advantage against the Giants - and especially in the trenches. I also expect this team to be 9-2 or 10-1 when Philly comes to town.
 

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This game has me concerned because the way Dallas plays after a big win with this team.
Can't stand prosperity comes to mind.
The Giants just got pole-axed on national tv.
They are not gonna roll over back to back weeks,and they always put up a fight in Big D.
 

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I disagree. This is a league where guys step up. And Odell Beckham, though a rookie is nothing to take for granted. It wouldn't shock me one bit if the Giants got better without Cruz. IT happens in this league time and time again. People said we wouldn't be ANYTHING without Sean Lee. No one factored in Bruce Carter and Rolando McClain would step up. You just can't predict rival games. Should we win? I believe so. But its a rival. Things change from week to week and the Giants know this is a BIG GAME for them. They are back in this race if they win. If they lose, it may put their playoff hopes to sleep.

When Lee went down last year...what happened? Carter, McClain and Durant have had an off-season and training camps to get more acquainted with what Marinelli wants. Take Dez Bryant off Dallas for the rest of the year. How comfortable does that make you feel about the passing game? I don't know that the Giants will be better without Cruz, who was an integral, play-making part of their offense. How did Williams do in his first year? Bryant? Neither were all-world...there is a learning curve in the NFL and that applies to every player who comes into the league. Beckham has much to prove and big shoes to fill if he is going to supplant Cruz.

Anyway...the more pressing problem for the Giants right now is offensive line play in pass protection. Virtually every time that New York has come to Dallas with protection issues, the Cowboys have sent them packing. Manning cannot carry that team without good protection and good running...won't happen.

They can talk all they want about intensity, but what happened Sunday night was well beyond that. I call it stealing money. They didn't even punch the clock. They sure had enough intensity to stomp on the mid-field logo before the game. They simply wrote checks all week that their bodies couldn't cash on the field. A three game win streak does not a playoff season make. Getting beat 27-0 in a parity driven league is pretty friggin ugly from where I'm standing. I don't buy that the Giants were not up for that game...I call bs...they simply thought that they were better than they actually are and got smoked! Seattle and New Orleans have fallen into that same trap.

From where I'm standing, the Giants ran off at the mouth, was impudent toward a worthy division opponent and could not back it up once the gun went off...they got punched in the mouth and then laid down for rest of the night!
 
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Sorry if already posted but the Giants may have lost Trumaine Mcbride for the season and maybe DRC for this upcoming game. How big are these two on their defense. Oh and yeah, I don't sleep on Eli. Never. Especially in Dallas.
 

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With all Witten & Romo have gone through, I can't imagine they aren't reminding every player on the team how quickly things can fall apart, the pain of past failures and are working to keep everyone motivated and focused on the opportunity that is in front of them...at least I hope so (& their being heard)
 

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When Lee went down last year...what happened? Carter, McClain and Durant have had an off-season and training camps to get more acquainted with what Marinelli wants. Take Dez Bryant off Dallas for the rest of the year. How comfortable does that make you feel about the passing game? I don't know that the Giants will be better without Cruz, who was an integral, play-making part of their offense. How did Williams do in his first year? Bryant? Neither were all-world...there is a learning curve in the NFL and that applies to every player who comes into the league. Beckham has much to prove and big shoes to fill if he is going to supplant Cruz.

Anyway...the more pressing problem for the Giants right now is offensive line play in pass protection. Virtually every time that New York has come to Dallas with protection issues, the Cowboys have sent them packing. Manning cannot carry that team without good protection and good running...won't happen.

They can talk all they want about intensity, but what happened Sunday night was well beyond that. I call it stealing money. They didn't even punch the clock. They sure had enough intensity to stomp on the mid-field logo before the game. They simply wrote checks all week that their bodies couldn't cash on the field. A three game win streak does not a playoff season make. Getting beat 27-0 in a parity driven league is pretty friggin ugly from where I'm standing. I don't buy that the Giants were not up for that game...I call bs...they simply thought that they were better than they actually are and got smoked! Seattle and New Orleans have fallen into that same trap.

From where I'm standing, the Giants ran off at the mouth, was impudent toward a worthy division opponent and could not back it up once the gun went off...they got punched in the mouth and then laid down for rest of the night!

What happened when Lee went down a few years ago? Carter stepped up and stepped in. That's the NFL. What happened when Drew Bledsoe got benched for Romo? What happened when Demarco took over for Felix?

You just never know. Its a divisional game. I'm not gonna take them for granted. This game to me is just as big as last week because its a divisional game. Actually its bigger.
 

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Ah man don't sleep on the Cardinals ! They have the best corner in the game. He shut Dez down once already so it will be a bug test for him round 2.
 
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