Woman Caught on Tape Allegedly Planning Husband's Killing

[ethiostar]

It's totally true here in the U.S.A.

To be fair, it did spike between the 60's (50 years ago) and 90's but the overall trend shows a decline.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Of course there will be peaks and valleys over the years but overall most researchers/ data analysts do seem to agree that there has been a general declining trend. Also, because of necessity, most data for earlier years (around the early 1900's and earlier) is based on estimation.

Here are some short-term trend data for the U.S. Of course, there are more out there and i'm sure some of them are contradictory. I will try and post more when I have time, especially long-term trend data.

Firearm Violence, 1993-2011
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4616

• Firearm-related homicides declined 39%, from 18,253 in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011.
• Nonfatal firearm crimes declined 69%, from 1.5 million victimizations in 1993 to 467,300 victimizations in 2011.

Violent Crime, 2006-2010
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/violent-crime

• In 2010, an estimated 1,246,248 violent crimes occurred nationwide, a decrease of 6.0 percent from the 2009 estimate.
• When considering 5- and 10-year trends, the 2010 estimated violent crime total was 13.2 percent below the 2006 level and 13.4 percent below the 2001 level.

Here is an article about long-term trend for violent crime. I should say that I can't speak for the validity of this particular study but it doesn't contradict what i have read in the past. But some of the references sited int he article are solid sources.

http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2010/06/16/a-crime-puzzle-violent-crime-declines-in-america/

Here is what I would say. I don't think we can look at these statistics and say that violence has gone down because these are all numbers for Gun related activities. There are far more varieties of crimes then just gun related. This entire article is about a crime that has nothing at all to do with guns.

Even with that, as example, violent gun crimes/deaths are influenced by superior medical treatments. The ability to save lives, gun shot or otherwise, is vastly improved over the 1980s or even 1990s.

I would have to see a more broad picture of our society, as a whole, before I could support such a statement.

 

[DallasDomination]

I would get 1 million if my mother passes away.. I would take my sorry *** to jail myself if i even thought about doing what she did. There is no excuses I hope she rots in hell.

 

[ethiostar]

Here is what I would say. I don't think we can look at these statistics and say that violence has gone down because these are all numbers for Gun related activities. There are far more varieties of crimes then just gun related. This entire article is about a crime that has nothing at all to do with guns.

Even with that, as example, violent gun crimes/deaths are influenced by superior medical treatments. The ability to save lives, gun shot or otherwise, is vastly improved over the 1980s or even 1990s.

I would have to see a more broad picture of our society, as a whole, before I could support such a statement.

Only the first link deals with guns.

The second link defines violent crime as follows: In the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Violent crimes are defined in the UCR Program as those offenses which involve force or threat of force.

Even though the the third link doesn't define violent crime, it does rely on FBI data.

I agree with your that improved medical care likely has some effect on the homicide rate.

I also think people often confuse numbers of violent crimes with rates of violent crimes. For example, infant mortality may have increased dramatically over the last hundred years if we simply look at the raw numbers because of population growth. However, the picture will be drastically different if we look at infant mortality rate (i.e., number of deaths per 1,000 births) over the same time period.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Only the first link deals with guns.

The second link defines violent crime as follows: In the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Violent crimes are defined in the UCR Program as those offenses which involve force or threat of force.

Even though the the third link doesn't define violent crime, it does rely on FBI data.

I agree with your that improved medical care likely has some effect on the homicide rate.

I also think people often confuse numbers of violent crimes with rates of violent crimes. For example, infant mortality may have increased dramatically over the last hundred years if we simply look at the raw numbers because of population growth. However, the picture will be drastically different if we look at infant mortality rate (i.e., number of deaths per 1,000 births) over the same time period.

I also think that a War for 10 years and so many young people over seas dramatically effects these numbers. I am afraid that as we see more coming home, these numbers are going to rise. Some will say that it's because of the War and that will certainly be a part of it but it is also because many Americans who have not been home to commit violence have been abroad.

I do not look forward to that eventuality, should it come to fruition.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I also think that a War for 10 years and so many young people over seas dramatically effects these numbers. I am afraid that as we see more coming home, these numbers are going to rise. Some will say that it's because of the War and that will certainly be a part of it but it is also because many Americans who have not been home to commit violence have been abroad.

Good point.

 

[burmafrd]

I wonder how many crimes go unreported any more? Especially in the inner cities and ghettos and other areas like that.

Now in the past that might have happened a lot as well; but then also a lot of minor crimes were settled privately and never went to the police. Many neighborhoods policed their own. Now that never happens.

 

[joseephuss]

I call BS on the claims that its no worse then it was 50 years ago. TOTAL BS. If you think that you truly have your head in the ground like an ostrich

I wonder how many crimes go unreported any more? Especially in the inner cities and ghettos and other areas like that.

Now in the past that might have happened a lot as well; but then also a lot of minor crimes were settled privately and never went to the police. Many neighborhoods policed their own. Now that never happens.

Did you just bring up a point that goes against your previous post?

 

[joseephuss]

I also think that a War for 10 years and so many young people over seas dramatically effects these numbers. I am afraid that as we see more coming home, these numbers are going to rise. Some will say that it's because of the War and that will certainly be a part of it but it is also because many Americans who have not been home to commit violence have been abroad.

I do not look forward to that eventuality, should it come to fruition.

I don't agree. How many young people have been overseas fighting wars over the last 10 years? I think it is less than 1% of the U.S. population. And only a fraction of those that are away fighting will come back and commit violent acts. That is hardly enough to dramatically effect these numbers. Maybe a minor adjustment, but not a drastic one.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't agree. How many young people have been overseas fighting wars over the last 10 years? I think it is less than 1% of the U.S. population. And only a fraction of those that are away fighting will come back and commit violent acts. That is hardly enough to dramatically effect these numbers. Maybe a minor adjustment, but not a drastic one.

What percentage of people in America are actually responsible for committing violent crimes?

I don't have a clue on what the data might say here but I'd guess that the percentage is also probably pretty small.

 

[joseephuss]

What percentage of people in America are actually responsible for committing violent crimes?

I don't have a clue on what the data might say here but I'd guess that the percentage is also probably pretty small.

Yes, compared to the total population it is small.

 

[jobberone]

Not sure if war related deaths and injuries are treated as part of the national demographic data. That is a good point that I'd like an answer to.

 

[joseephuss]

Not sure if war related deaths and injuries are treated as part of the national demographic data. That is a good point that I'd like an answer to.

No, I do not believe it falls under the category of a violent crime.

 

[ethiostar]

Not sure if war related deaths and injuries are treated as part of the national demographic data. That is a good point that I'd like an answer to.

If you mean whether or not they are classified as 'violent crimes' in the national data, then then answer is no.

 

[jobberone]

If you mean whether or not they are classified as 'violent crimes' in the national data, then then answer is no.

Yes, that's what I meant. Ok, didn't think so but was guessing...educated guess but still guess.

Sry missed joseephus' post so thank you both.