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Terrible call. Robben is a flopper and should have received a yellow earlier in the game. Even without that call it was only a matter of time before the Dutch won that game. I never saw it going to penalties because Mexico kept living dangerously. Holland score again was just an eventuality waiting to happen. Just sucks they get awarded for a dive.

Yeah once Mexico took out Dos Santos and put in Aquino it was clear what Herrera was doing. When NED scored i knew NED would win at some point. Mex didnt have anybody to attack but Hernandez.
 

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just like in football the prevent defense prevents you from winning more often then not
 

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taking off dos santos was a bad move.

that flop was card worthy by robben.
he tried 3 or 4 times to get that call and they decide to give it to him in xtra time? crazy.
should have been an extra time game and the Dutch were better once Dos Santos went out so not sure outcome would have changed but you can;t say you want to end flopping and ignore that robben flop with a game winning outcome.
 

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just like in football the prevent defense prevents you from winning more often then not

Yup, if he saw Dos Santos as tired he shouldve brought on Hernandez. But Herrera no doubt in my mind made the sub to simply pile up defenders and sit back.
 

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taking off dos santos was a bad move.

that flop was card worthy by robben.
he tried 3 or 4 times to get that call and they decide to give it to him in xtra time? crazy.
should have been an extra time game and the Dutch were better once Dos Santos went out so not sure outcome would have changed but you can;t say you want to end flopping and ignore that robben flop with a game winning outcome.

Yeah Robben was flopping the whole game. Thats fine all teams have them playrs. But you cant call it when the whole game you havent been calling that foul. Mex suely wouldve lost the next game anyways. They had lost marquez and Guarado for the following game if theyd have advanced. Its just a shame all the blown calls Mexico got this world cup. With the two goals that Dos Santos had vs Cameroon that got called off Mex wouldve won the group and faced Chile instead. Frustrating end of the world cup for the Mexican team
 

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In fairness to Robben he should have had a penalty earlier in the game and avoided Marquez at 1 nil to stay on his feet and get a shot away. As much as I dislike Robben and his diving he'd have had to change his run to avoid Marquez' foot so for me it's a penalty.
 

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Greece is an abomination to the game, I challenge anyone to find a more boring team
 

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That was just their 3rd goal in the tournament. ..
 

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Greece is an abomination to the game, I challenge anyone to find a more boring team

I thought Costa Rico was the lowest CONCACAF ranked team and yet they get the easiest (IMO) team to play in the round of 16 compared to Mexico and USA. They are now in the round of 8.

I guess it's all about the draw?
 

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I thought Costa Rico was the lowest CONCACAF ranked team and yet they get the easiest (IMO) team to play in the round of 16 compared to Mexico and USA. They are now in the round of 8.

I guess it's all about the draw?

There is a benefit to winning the group which Costa Rica did and both Mexico and USA did not.
 

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There is a benefit to winning the group which Costa Rica did and both Mexico and USA did not.

Yeah, you're correct. Their group wasn't supposed to be as "weak" as it turned out to be. I don't think too many people thought Italy and England were as bad as they were when they were both in the top 10 in FIFA ranking before the tournament.
 

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Why are people hating on Robben for flopping? Like 99% of players in the entire tournament do it...its part of the game.
 

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Why are people hating on Robben for flopping? Like 99% of players in the entire tournament do it...its part of the game.

Im not mad at him, im mad at the ref for calling it. He hadnt made those calls all day. There were more obvious calls throughout the day that werent even given a second thought by that ref. And he wants to call a obvious flop like that? You let them play on.Commentators were saying the same thing
 

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Yeah, you're correct. Their group wasn't supposed to be as "weak" as it turned out to be. I don't think too many people thought Italy and England were as bad as they were when they were both in the top 10 in FIFA ranking before the tournament.

Environment plays a big factor in sports. Humidity can affect players alot even at the pro level.

Granted los ticos got pretty lucky in drawing Greece lol.
 

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Im not mad at him, im mad at the ref for calling it. He hadnt made those calls all day. There were more obvious calls throughout the day that werent even given a second thought by that ref. And he wants to call a obvious flop like that? You let them play on.Commentators were saying the same thing

He made the most of it and could probably have avoided Marquez but it was a stonewall penalty. Marquez put his foot across Robbens path and got nowhere near the ball. I don't see how it isn't a penalty
 

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I still say navas has been the best goalie in the World Cup, he was fantastic again last night. He's only allowed 1 goal this entire World Cup from non PKs
 

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In fairness to Robben he should have had a penalty earlier in the game and avoided Marquez at 1 nil to stay on his feet and get a shot away. As much as I dislike Robben and his diving he'd have had to change his run to avoid Marquez' foot so for me it's a penalty.

Had Robben taken contact and went down so be it.
But he literally threw himself in a swan dive seconds after contact when he saw another Mexican defender near the ball.
The contact from Marquez was not egregious enough to grant a free kick at that spot when it didn't prevent a shot on goal or anything of the sort.
Robben overdribbled into the deep box and had no where to go but back into a crowd away from goal.
The only intent for him was to draw a foul.
It is a very cheap way to play the game that robs the effort of guys who ran through Hell for 95 mins on both sides. .
I'd like to see red cards for dives that extreme.
Because overreactions is the only way to stop it.

The Dutch were the better side by far in the 2nd half and likely get through in added time anyway but it is a legit reason to dislike soccer when it is so hard to score from run of play but so easy to entice referees to give bail out PKs that are 85% propositions to score.
 

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Why are people hating on Robben for flopping? Like 99% of players in the entire tournament do it...its part of the game.

Robben is one of the games worst and he showed that in play.
He had full on flopped a few times in the box.
He has the skill to simply go create scoring chances but instead merely tried to create a foul.
 

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I still say navas has been the best goalie in the World Cup, he was fantastic again last night. He's only allowed 1 goal this entire World Cup from non PKs

All 3 Concacaf goalies have been superb. That's why those 3 teams made the round of 16.
Goalkeeping is a great equalizer.
 
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