Would you bench Leary or Bernadeau?

[PJTHEDOORS]

I'd take Donald, Barr, or Beckham before Martin. One of these 3 will be there at 16.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'd take Donald, Barr, or Beckham before Martin. One of these 3 will be there at 16.

I wouldn't take Beckham over him. There are very few things that are more of a sure thing than OG prospects with high first round grades. WR otoh is never a sure thing.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I wouldn't take Beckham over him. There are very few things that are more of a sure thing than OG prospects with high first round grades. WR otoh is never a sure thing.

I can say the same for highly rated wr's. Anyways, I'd take Donald or Barr before Martin or Beckham.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I can say the same for highly rated wr's. Anyways, I'd take Donald or Barr before Martin or Beckham.

You can say whatever you like but the list of high WR picks busting is long and illustrious. Now name me the guard busts.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And there are objective metrics for example:

http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpr...afest-positions-to-target-in-the-first-round/

OL is clearly very safe relative to WR or other skill positions who have a high degree of variance and a very low floor.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

You can say whatever you like but the list of high WR picks busting is long and illustrious. Now name me the guard busts.

Donald or Barr. Fuzzy that.

 

[ConstantReboot]

If he is the BPA then he is the BPA. Cooper was a better prospect last year but outside of that , Martin is the best guard prospect in quite a long time. That includes DeCastro and Warmack.

He maybe the BPA at that time but I would not take him because it would be just a wasted pick. Our oline did pretty last year. You don't fix what isn't broken. Secondly, defense needs to be fixed big time. We need so many spots filled on defense especially the Dline. I would go all out with this draft and use our first 3 rounds on the Dline. Then I would take a guard or tackle in round 4. Besides I don't know why we should use our first pick on a guard on which we hardly run the ball. So all we really need is someone that can pass protect.

 

[jnday]

He maybe the BPA at that time but I would not take him because it would be just a wasted pick. Our oline did pretty last year. You don't fix what isn't broken. Secondly, defense needs to be fixed big time. We need so many spots filled on defense especially the Dline. I would go all out with this draft and use our first 3 rounds on the Dline. Then I would take a guard or tackle in round 4. Besides I don't know why we should use our first pick on a guard on which we hardly run the ball. So all we really need is someone that can pass protect.

The oline is far from being a finished unit and if an olineman is the BPA , that should be the pick. Approaching the draft with the ideal of spending the first three picks on Dline or an other positions is a sure way to have a bad draft and the result is reaching for a player to fill a need. The last thing that this team needs is forcing picks.

 

[Bullflop]

I wouldn't bench either one of them until such time as the new OG prospect had shown himself to be better and more consistent.

 

[ConstantReboot]

The oline is far from being a finished unit and if an olineman is the BPA , that should be the pick. Approaching the draft with the ideal of spending the first three picks on Dline or an other positions is a sure way to have a bad draft and the result is reaching for a player to fill a need. The last thing that this team needs is forcing picks.

Didn't say that our oline is complete. But its way more complete then our Dline. Right now the Dline is our most glaring weakness and if we fail to take care of that in this draft we can consider ourselves once again one of the worst defenses in the league. Sure its good to take the BPA if its warranted. But what if the BPA is a linebacker or even a runningback? Do you still opt to take him? I would say not.

Martin doesn't really fill a need except for a glorified pass protector. We don't run the ball that much so what good is he? Many other guards can fill in his position just fine and thus his nothing more than a luxury pick which would leave us with the same glaring holes we have one defense. Fixing the dline is not only a necessity right now. Its the most obvious choice with our 1st rounder.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

'Who' is a subject and 'whom' is a predicate much like 'he' is a subject and 'him' is a predicate.

Its definitely a pita but an easy way to tell correct usage is by inserting 'he' and 'him' and seeing which one works.

In this case what you did is equivalent to saying, 'Him is worse at camp' which is obviously wrong. Instead 'He is worse at camp' flows correctly.

I am not trying to troll you btw. What you intended to say to us was clear enough. Like I said its a pain but that is how I am able to remember what 'proper' usage is.

It's, not Its would be the correct usage here.

 

[Cowboy06]

I'd bench both if two other guards came along that were better. I just want the best 11 on the field at all times.

 

[Fredd]

if martin was brought in and won a starting job, it is likely that berny sits and is ready to go at any of the 3 interior OL spots....but, could you see martin unseating free this year and is on the unit WITH berny, leary, fred, ty?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's, not Its would be the correct usage here.

Contractions without exception use an apostrophe. This will bring me to what I think is a central point: I don't care much about grammar on a public forum as long as it is intelligible. Language is an arbitrary human construction to communicate and as long as the communication is successful, I am fine.

As I said earlier, I only said something because it appeared to me like he was actively trying to use the correct form and I thought my comment would be helpful to what he was trying to do.

Since you are trying to play grammar ****, you have multiple subjects in your sentence. Both "it's" and "not its" are both subjects yet you never use a conjunction. Instead you use a comma which gives the impression that it is the beginning of an independent phrase.

It's and not its would be the correct usage here.

is better than

It's, not its, would be the correct usage here.

is better than

It's, not Its would be the correct usage here.

 

[jobberone]

Tough call. Not sure I'd take Martin over Barr and definitely not Donald. Beckham has the size and speed. He played in the SEC but he wasn't featured. I think we can get a 2 or 3 WR later on. I'd probably trade down and pick up Shazier or either Pryor, Ward, or Ha-Ha. Pray people go QB nuts and someone takes a flyer early to knock a player to us. Or we trade down.

I think Mack has is better in the run game his feet ain't the best. Leary is a long term risk with the knees and needs to get stronger. Neither are that good on the move. So G can definitely be improved. Again tough call.

I often jump up with a yeah or jump up and leave the room muttering to myself with our picks. Martin would get a oh and a hmmm.

 

[Chuck 54]

You would expect the younger player to take a significant step forward this year, but bottom line is last year's starters run with first unit on day one of camp, and it's a competition.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Whomever is worst at camp..

This. The two best guards start.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

Contractions without exception use an apostrophe. This will bring me to what I think is a central point: I don't care much about grammar on a public forum as long as it is intelligible. Language is an arbitrary human construction to communicate and as long as the communication is successful, I am fine.

As I said earlier, I only said something because it appeared to me like he was actively trying to use the correct form and I thought my comment would be helpful to what he was trying to do.

Since you are trying to play grammar ****, you have multiple subjects in your sentence. Both "it's" and "not its" are both subjects yet you never use a conjunction. Instead you use a comma which gives the impression that it is the beginning of an independent phrase.

It's and not its would be the correct usage here.

is better than

It's, not its, would be the correct usage here.

is better than

It's, not Its would be the correct usage here.

Wow. All that time just to cover up your basic grammatical error. If anyone is being the grammar ****, it's you. I just pointed out one of the most basic errors anyone can make because it was so ironic that while you are talking down to somone else here regarding their usage of "whom", you use the possessive pronoun instead of the contraction.

With that, I'll just leave you with this, a simple paragraph I found that explains perfectly the err of your ways. Get over yourself.

"Nothing screams moron more than taking to the streets of a civil society which cherishes free speech, tolerance, and cultural diversity to cheer on terrorists who would impose their medieval ignorance and savagery upon those who pay the dole which supports them. About the only way to plumb an even lower intellectual stratum is to screw up one of the simplest things in English—the distinction between “it's” and “its”—on the signs you brandish before the cameras of the legacy media.

Confusing “its” and “it's” is the signature of moronic writing precisely because it's so simple to get right; anybody who doesn't is either too stupid to learn one of the simplest rules in English writing, or such a slacker they can't be bothered to express their meaning to the audience they address. “Its” is a possessive pronoun: the possessive form of “it” and, as we'll see below, possessive pronounsnever use an apostrophe. “It's” is a contraction of the phrase “it is” (or sometimes “it has”), and contractions always use an apostrophe to indicate the letters omitted when running the two words together. "

https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/apostrophe/

 

[Deep_South]

Please, let's not talk about grammar. The more everyone knows about grammar, the worse most of us are going to look.

 

[kevinhickey]

Whomever is worst at camp..

I'm with you!