Would you have traded our first for Trent Richardson?

[Jenky]

Drafting Weeden was the mistake the Browns made, not Richardson. They won't get ANYTHING for Weeden now.

 

[CATCH17]

Drafting Weeden was the mistake the Browns made, not Richardson. They won't get ANYTHING for Weeden now.

The Browns aren't even as bad off as people think.

They have a stout defense and they have a solid TE and big play receiver on offense.

Plus they have a ton of picks in next years draft.

If they got the coach right and find a QB they'll be in a race to win that division next year.

 

[Jenky]

The Browns aren't even as bad off as people think.

They have a stout defense and they have a solid TE and big play receiver on offense.

Plus they have a ton of picks in next years draft.

If they got the coach right and find a QB they'll be in a race to win that division next year.

Cameron is up and coming, but they don't have enough to spread the field. Everyone knows that team wants to run first. Weeden isn't that good. Cinci has that division for a couple of years IMO. They just need to play better with the talent they have.

 

[newlander]

I guess you've been impressed with Richardson's 3 yards a carry? I just don't see why anyone even invests in running backs in the 1st round anymore. Unless you are one of these teams picking late in the 1st round who clearly don't have many holes. I just don't get it. Our run blocking isn't much better than the Browns so i'd expect that 3 yards per carry to stay the same or get worse here.

I think its a terrible move for the Colts. A team trying to rebuild around Luck and his best option is a mid 30's wide receiver. Just not smart IMO.

100% dead on....TR is damaged goods IMO...just like Eddie Lacy of UA and Leveon Bell of MI State....they had too many carries in college....all 3 are beat to a pulp

 

[CATCH17]

Cameron is up and coming, but they don't have enough to spread the field. Everyone knows that team wants to run first. Weeden isn't that good. Cinci has that division for a couple of years IMO. They just need to play better with the talent they have.

Cincy is the best on paper but I couldn't trust them for even this year. Much less 2 years.

We've seen the Cowboys have some of the best teams on paper and it's got us a big bowl of nothing.

I do like their roster but that division can catch up quick.

 

[TheFinisher]

That makes no sense. Felix Jones was a 1st rounder. Ray Rice was taken in that same draft in the 2nd round..

MB3 was a monster for a few seasons and better than Richardson has been at any point in his career.

This philosiphy works and is proven in todays NFL.

Spending #1's on a player like David Wilson and Trent Richardson just isn't worth it when you can draft guys like Alfred Morris in the 6th round.

Felix was not drafted to be an every down back, he was brought here to be a change of pace back... poor value the minute we drafted him.

We haven't had a stud since Emmitt because we refuse to invest in the position. I think some fans are fine with that because of the myth that the running game doesn't matter as much, but not this guy. I'm tired of fielding JAG RB after JAG RB only to watch this running game suck year in and year out. Blows my mind that so many fans are OK with not committing to the position in a serious manner. Yea, some teams have found steals in the draft over the years but it's more of the exception than the norm... you want a star RB more times than not you're gonna have to pay up


Also,let's see how Trent does on an offense where he's surrounded with some talent before writing him off because he didn't set the world on fire last year in the black pit known as Cleveland.

 

[Risen Star]

That makes no sense. Felix Jones was a 1st rounder. Ray Rice was taken in that same draft in the 2nd round..

MB3 was a monster for a few seasons and better than Richardson has been at any point in his career.

This philosiphy works and is proven in todays NFL.

Spending #1's on a player like David Wilson and Trent Richardson just isn't worth it when you can draft guys like Alfred Morris in the 6th round.

I can do that with every position.

RBs definitely have less value now but I would still take one in the 1st round if I believe he's elite.

 

[Blackspider214]

I don't think many people anticipate our pick to be far off from the Colts in the 2014 draft. I definitely would've pulled the trigger, it would've been a steal.

And here I thought Jerry was a terrible GM. This move right here would rank up there with his Galloway and Roy Williams trades. How is Trent any more special than what we have now? RBs have short shelf lives now. And he had about a 3.something ypc in Cleveland.

You don't think we need to save the 1st rounder for another OL or someone on the DL? What good would Trent be without a line to run behind?

Some people need to quit looking at the NFL like it's Madden.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Nope. I wouldn't give up a first round pick for a RB in this league unless their name was AP or McCoy.

That's not to say there aren't other good backs, there are, but I'd rather have that first rounder and get an O-lineman or D-Lineman to building there.

This team passes way to much to waste a first rounder on a RB.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I can do that with every position.

RBs definitely have less value now but I would still take one in the 1st round if I believe he's elite.

I didn't see it in the thread, I might have missed it, but do you believe Trent is elite?

Personally I don't. Then again I don't put to many RBs in that catagory so I could be bias.

 

[Risen Star]

I didn't see it in the thread, I might have missed it, but do you believe Trent is elite?

Personally I don't. Then again I don't put to many RBs in that catagory so I could be bias.

Yeah, I think he can be. He had no talent around him in Cleveland and I believe he's been playing with a rib injury.

 

[iceman117]

Only guy I'd trade our 2014 1st round pick for would be Geno Atkins.

Beast.... Or Aldon Smith

 

[hornitosmonster]

Trent is going to beast in Indy and they are setting up the pieces to win multiple superbowls. Cleveland is a piss poor organization so it doesn't surprise me they have thrown in the towel after two games.

As for the Cowboy, not sure we need Trent. But it is an excellent move for the Browns

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Yeah, I think he can be. He had no talent around him in Cleveland and I believe he's been playing with a rib injury.

I didn't know anything about the rib possibility but I do agree with the no talent in Cleveland around him.

I'm wondering if the trade was made by Cleveland cause they're basically looking to tank the season to go after a QB they want.

 

[CATCH17]

Felix was not drafted to be an every down back, he was brought here to be a change of pace back... poor value the minute we drafted him.

We haven't had a stud since Emmitt because we refuse to invest in the position. I think some fans are fine with that because of the myth that the running game doesn't matter as much, but not this guy. I'm tired of fielding JAG RB after JAG RB only to watch this running game suck year in and year out. Blows my mind that so many fans are OK with not committing to the position in a serious manner. Yea, some teams have found steals in the draft over the years but it's more of the exception than the norm... you want a star RB more times than not you're gonna have to pay up


Also,let's see how Trent does on an offense where he's surrounded with some talent before writing him off because he didn't set the world on fire last year in the black pit known as Cleveland.

I can do that with every position.

RBs definitely have less value now but I would still take one in the 1st round if I believe he's elite.

How many first round RBs have truly been worth it?

Peterson and...?? Steven Jackson maybe?

I think you find less Studs in the first round if anything.

Nothing better than taking a guy like Ryan Matthews, Knowshon Moreno, Mark Ingram, Reshard Mendenhall, or Jonathan Stewart in the first round. Real studs and value there.

 

[Risen Star]

I didn't know anything about the rib possibility but I do agree with the no talent in Cleveland around him.

I'm wondering if the trade was made by Cleveland cause they're basically looking to tank the season to go after a QB they want.

I'd say you're right about that. Remember, the guys responsible for drafting Richardson and Weeden aren't there anymore. I can see why the Browns did it and I can see why the Colts did it.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'd say you're right about that. Remember, the guys responsible for drafting Richardson and Weeden aren't there anymore. I can see why the Browns did it and I can see why the Colts did it.

Yeah that was my feeling on it. Since the guys who took those two aren't there this is the new regime looking to get into position to get the guys they want to go with. I can see that and I definately can understand the move from both teams point of view.

If Richardson can get healthy then this would improve the Indy offense. It's going to make Luck a lot more scary if he has even a decent running game to go with his ability.

 

[Risen Star]

How many first round RBs have truly been worth it?

Peterson and...?? Steven Jackson maybe?

I think you find less Studs in the first round if anything.

Nothing better than taking a guy like Ryan Matthews, Knowshon Moreno, Mark Ingram, Reshard Mendenhall, or Jonathan Stewart in the first round. Real studs and value there.

I'd add Lynch to the mix. That's my point. You can find them early and late. Like any other position.

Why should I take this QB in the first round when the Pats found Brady, the 49ers's Kaepernick, the Saints Brees, the Seahawks Wilson, the Ravens Flacco, the Cowboys Romo all without burning a single 1st round pick?

It can be done with any position.

 

[CATCH17]

Yeah that was my feeling on it. Since the guys who took those two aren't there this is the new regime looking to get into position to get the guys they want to go with. I can see that and I definately can understand the move from both teams point of view.

If Richardson can get healthy then this would improve the Indy offense. It's going to make Luck a lot more scary if he has even a decent running game to go with his ability.

I think it will hamper them and they will be in a nail biter every week trying to run the ball consistently.

What they need is to be effective when they run the ball.

They almost got beat by Oakland and did get beat by Miami but go ahead and call an offense like its 1995.

The Andrew Luck criticism will be following soon.

 

[CATCH17]

I'd add Lynch to the mix. That's my point. You can find them early and late. Like any other position.

Why should I take this QB in the first round when the Pats found Brady, the 49ers's Kaepernick, the Saints Brees, the Seahawks Wilson, the Ravens Flacco, the Cowboys Romo all without burning a single 1st round pick?

It can be done with any position.

Percentages that's why.

I'm more likely to find a good RB out of the first round. I'm not more likely going to find a stud QB.

Pretty sure Flacco was a first rounder too.