Would you still be a Cowboys fan if league was rigged?

[Typhus]

I want to hear from the fans who think it’s rigged. Why do they still watch if think it’s fake football ?

It depends on your definition of "rigged", depends to what extent.

All professional sports to a degree have been influenced because of how much money is generated, so absolutely it happens but not at the levels some believe.

It's been obvious when speaking of influences how many missed holding calls on Parsons take place to the point of making it so obvious, that the players have to be vocal about it.

I used to believe in just fighting through the bad calls in the past and remaining silent, but what has taken place all season has been atrocious, so wouldn't call it rigged, but definitely influenced.

 

[BoysForLife]

Only four teams have been the beneficiary of more penalty yards on their opponents than the Cowboys, but fans see what they want to see. This isn't by accident folks.

It's a lot easier than accepting this front office hasn't been unable to get over the hump, and they have jobs for life. Let's find a scapegoat, the easiest one in the book.

To make sure I understand you correctly are you saying our opponents, in game against us, have amassed more penalty yards than all but 4 other teams?

If I'm seeing your stat correctly then yes, this would put a serious dent is the "were getting screwed every week" narrative.

I hope we can put that narrative to bed. I agree with you, it's a convenient scapegoat for some but I think it's a inaccurate one. Thanks for posting this.

 

[GiddyD]

No

 

[Diehardblues]

Yes. Most games are close because they call it to make it that way. It did not used to be this way.

Fans don't care about integrity anymore. And they have plausible deniability. Plus, fans do not want to believe this, so they buy into the idea that it's not.

Look at you, an intelligent guy. And you're refusing to see what is right in front of you. Why? Because you don't want to see it.

When calls are made that keeps games close here or there, of course that happens. But, when it starts happening game after game after game, you gotta be in denial not to think something is happening.

Thing is, they messed up badly in the NO/MINNY debacle. There is simply no way to deny that the penalty was ignored. Not missed, ignored. There is simply no excuse to not call PI on a player who crash test dummy's into the intended while the ball is in the air. The defender admitted he was shocked himself at the no call, and that he committed the penalty on purpose because if they guy catches it, the game is over anyway. Terrible terrible no call, and it was intentional. Because there is no way it wasn't.

Can’t base on one bad call.

More games are close cause of the watered down Parity. No other effort is needed. And still many blowouts. Look how many we had.

Provide me any evidence beyond film footage or instant replay and I’ll lead the charge. League simply has too much to lose without integrity of results.

I’d argue it’s more reflective of this eras sour grapes who can’t handle reality of results and sign of times when many think everything is rigged against them.

 

[kskboys]

Can’t base on one bad call.

More games are close cause of the watered down Parity. No other effort is needed. And still many blowouts. Look how many we had.

I don't, that was simply one example. And it was not a bad call. There is a monstrous difference between a bad call and a blatantly ignored infraction right in front of the ref's face.

 

[Typhus]

Can’t base on one bad call.

More games are close cause of the watered down Parity. No other effort is needed. And still many blowouts. Look how many we had.

Provide me any evidence beyond film footage or instant replay and I’ll lead the charge.

Parsons was being held even in the blowouts, just doesn't get noticed as much because of the score.

 

[Diehardblues]

It depends on your definition of "rigged", depends to what extent.

All professional sports to a degree have been influenced because of how much money is generated, so absolutely it happens but not at the levels some believe.

It's been obvious when speaking of influences how many missed holding calls on Parsons take place to the point of making it so obvious, that the players have to be vocal about it.

I used to believe in just fighting through the bad calls in the past and remaining silent, but what has taken place all season has been atrocious, so wouldn't call it rigged, but definitely influenced.

That’s a more reasonable argument.

The game has been influenced by new rules . Many of which have altered the game.

All of the rules protecting the QB and PI calls are ticky tacky. Basically can’t hit the QB anymore. Totally agree with Aikman, the league has to adjust the rules.

 

[America's Cowboy]

"I can't fathom the thought of there being biased referees, so I have to create threads and be ever so over-the-top melodramatic in my anti-rigged mode just to soothe my stubborn headed conscience."

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't, that was simply one example. And it was not a bad call. There is a monstrous difference between a bad call and a blatantly ignored infraction right in front of the ref's face.

In the past there has been a known effort not to make more obvious calls near the end of game. To let them play.

And while it was blatantly obvious to us if you are in the mindset of letting them play in that situation I could see where an official might be hesitant in making that call.

That’s where the league can manipulate. Just like new rules protecting QB, leading with helmet and PI. All of which create more penalties and judgment calls which we all hate to see.

So in that sense I agree. The league has interfered with the game . Some of it to protect their most valuable assets, protection from lawsuits and creating more scoring and passing.

All manipulations of the game. But not organized or even individual criminal intent or negligence which is basically what fans are accusing them of if they are intentionally throwing games.

 

[Typhus]

That’s a more reasonable argument.

The game has been influenced by new rules . Many of which have altered the game.

All of the rules protecting the QB and PI calls are ticky tacky. Basically can’t hit the QB anymore. Totally agree with Aikman, the league has to adjust the rules.

The lawsuits vs the league with concussion protocol is what spawned the "protection" rules, and the changes in the CBA that have us where are at now.
The owners collectively do not want to alter the rules, they support the changes to protect their players and pocket books.

 

[Diehardblues]

"I can't fathom the thought of there being biased referees, so I have to create threads and be ever so over-the-top melodramatic in my anti-rigged mode just to soothe my stubborn headed conscience."

I’m all for leading the way if there was any hard evidence incriminating officials or the league including the owners and Commish.

Throw all their butts in prison. Banish the Fake NFL and let’s get a real football league.

 

[fivetwos]

There’s no way it’s fully rigged

If the refs are against Dallas specifically, I ask why? The Jerry/Roger relationship? Roger isn’t dumb enough to attempt that. Too many people would know.

I DO however fully believe in that they want to retain a certain amount of control, like when they want to keep TV sets on during national games.

Otherwise they would make the very obvious fix of having an extra official in the booth with a monitor to overturn blatantly wrong calls and non calls.

 

[Diehardblues]

The lawsuits vs the league with concussion protocol is what spawned the "protection" rules, and the changes in the CBA that have us where are at now.
The owners collectively do not want to alter the rules, they support the changes to protect their players and pocket books.

Agree. But tweaking the rules could be done without totally altering them .

 

[Rockport]

There’s been so much talk over the officiating this year . But my bigger question is why would you be a fan of the NFL if thought it was rigged or fake ?

Questionable and poor officiating has always been part of the game . In real time it’s often difficult to see very angle . I have a brother in law who did officiating at amateur level and said they simply don’t always see these happening in real time .

The only answer is reviewing every play which surely no one really wants . It’s already dumbing down having to review every TD and catch. Does the game really have to be perfection.

Regardless the sport whether it’s a ball or strike , a personal foul or holding and interference there is a judgement in play based on how they see or don’t see it.

But to suggest without any other evidence that multiple slow-mo camera footage officials aren’t privy to in real time . Over the years we’ve never had any whistle blower , a disgruntled former official or employee , not one bit of evidence of any official or crews of any personal or organized collusion to rig or throw games .

All we have is camera footage after the fact. And of course very frustrated fans who are beside themselves with calls which appear so obvious on camera .

I’m sorry but until further evidence that footage after the fact I’m going to call it more sour grapes which I’m not saying isn’t justified but calling it rigged is baseless . And if they truly believe the league is rigged then why so much vested interest in a fake sport ?

You’re all over the place with this post. Not sure what you’re trying to say.

 

[Diehardblues]

There’s no way it’s fully rigged

If the refs are against Dallas specifically, I ask why? The Jerry/Roger relationship? Roger isn’t dumb enough to attempt that. Too many people would know.

I DO however fully believe in that they want to retain a certain amount of control, like when they want to keep TV sets on during national games.

Otherwise they would make the very obvious fix of having an extra official in the booth with a monitor to overturn blatantly wrong calls and non calls.

Those would all have to be league wide changes to the rules and officiating. I’m not sure what role the Players Union might have.

Most of all of these new penalties have arrived from these new rules implemented which has altered or manipulated the game that most of us don’t like.

We’ve seen the league adjust or tweak. And this could be another situation where action is needed.

 

[JoeKing]

If the league were proven to be rigged it would be its demise, as we know it. Heads would roll and fans would stop watching. There would be an investigation and the league restructured so that the integrity of the game would be protected. It might take a while but the fans would eventually return.

 

[America's Cowboy]

If the league were proven to be rigged it would be its demise, as we know it. Heads would roll and fans would stop watching. There would be an investigation and the league restructured so that the integrity of the game would be protected. It might take a while but the fans would eventually return.

Baloney.

People see the biased referee calls/non-calls happening today, yet fans keep watching.

 

[Mannix]

Only four teams have been the beneficiary of more penalty yards on their opponents than the Cowboys, but fans see what they want to see. This isn't by accident folks.

It's a lot easier than accepting this front office hasn't been unable to get over the hump, and they have jobs for life. Let's find a scapegoat, the easiest one in the book.

Sorry, but its when and whats called that we speak of....and the majority of it is "hidden"....as in, what's "not"called.

 

[Diehardblues]

Baloney.

People see the biased referee calls/non-calls happening today, yet fans keep watching.

Then either they like Fake Football or it sounds more like sour grapes.

We’ve been blaming Refs for bad calls and or non calls with bias since the 60’s. But we’ve never called the game rigged. It’s quite a leap. That’s all I’m attempting to take on.

What has also been introduced in this thread is the manipulation by the league with new rules which has added to more subjective judgmental calls .

All of which have watered down the game and added more frustration and discontent with officiating. Very valid argument and points.

No doubt officiating is a concern. And hopefully the league will insert new means to address and or tweaking current ones.

But to accuse that it’s a league wide or group collusion is quite a leap in calling the NFL rigged. Sounds like our society mentality that can’t handle reality of the results.

 

[Pevansjr]

I think there are to many penalties that are ultimately judgement calls. If they could make it clear that if you do x y or z then that is holding, PI, or roughing. IMO those penalties will be called differently for any game that's being played on Sunday and it's that inconsistency more than anything else that leads people to think things are rigged.