Would you still be a Cowboys fan if league was rigged?

[noshame]

I don't think it's rigged. I just want consistency from crew to crew.

 

[Blackrain]

These games are definitely manipulated at times to keep them close and I have tolerated that.
But it has gotten to the point now where the use of officials to change the outcome in games is just so blatant that it is ruining the product and I can't stomach it much longer my long time friends that I've watched football with since we were kids agree so it's not just me saying this we've all watched football for over 50 years together for that matter.
It seems like for the last 5 years after the games on Sunday all we talk about is all the bad calls or no calls.
Sure the viewing audience is growing the NFL is making more money than ever people are watching it more than ever why because the great majority are casual uninformed fans that don't know what they're looking at with short attention spans on their phones while they're watching the game.
This is what the NFL counts on and gravitates to the casual uninformed fan. To them it's still great entertainment.

To old guys that have spent their life watching football what we see now is a sacrilege.

 

[JoeKing]

Baloney.

People see the biased referee calls/non-calls happening today, yet fans keep watching.

People perceive bias but that doesn't make it a reality. If it were proven the crap would hit the fan.

 

[acr731]

Me personally, if it were ever revealed that the NFL had become scripted garbage like wrestling, I would not watch. I grew up watching the Von Erich's back in the day and thought wrestling was awesome. But as I grew older and became wise to what it really was, I never watched again. It seems the NFL is headed down a similar path, and when they get there they will never recover.

The NFL, and every other sport for that matter, should have distanced themselves from sports betting, not embraced it. People want to believe that what they are watching, the teams they are rooting for, that all of it is real and not manipulated in any way. Sports betting, unfortunately, has placed doubts into the minds of even the most ardent fans. And when the referees seem to be influencing the outcomes of games, that only fuels those doubts.

Take the NBA for example. I used to enjoy watching the NBA until Tim Donaghy came along and exposed the ugly truth about the sport. Does anyone really believe he was the only one rigging games? Not even close - he's the only one who got caught. I have no doubt the Tim Donaghy's are still out there, and in every sport, they've just learned to cover the tracks much better.

 

[Swanny]

There’s been so much talk over the officiating this year . But my bigger question is why would you be a fan of the NFL if thought it was rigged or fake ?

Questionable and poor officiating has always been part of the game . In real time it’s often difficult to see very angle . I have a brother in law who did officiating at amateur level and said they simply don’t always see these happening in real time .

The only answer is reviewing every play which surely no one really wants . It’s already dumbing down having to review every TD and catch. Does the game really have to be perfection.

Regardless the sport whether it’s a ball or strike , a personal foul or holding and interference there is a judgement in play based on how they see or don’t see it.

But to suggest without any other evidence that multiple slow-mo camera footage officials aren’t privy to in real time . Over the years we’ve never had any whistle blower , a disgruntled former official or employee , not one bit of evidence of any official or crews of any personal or organized collusion to rig or throw games .

All we have is camera footage after the fact. And of course very frustrated fans who are beside themselves with calls which appear so obvious on camera .

I’m sorry but until further evidence that footage after the fact I’m going to call it more sour grapes which I’m not saying isn’t justified but calling it rigged is baseless . And if they truly believe the league is rigged then why so much vested interest in a fake sport ?

The league is not rigged as the players would not be able to pull that off. Do you think a kicker making a 50 yard FG for the win can be planned? There is no chance that can be planned. However the owners know that the NFL is in business to entertain. The NFL is an entertainment business. The owners have set up the rules to make offense easy to help create entertainment. The owners have set up the rules to help create drama for entertainment. The owners understand that the silly rules in place makes it very hard for officials to call a game. The owners understand that the more controversy surrounding the officials equals more social media buzz which means more money for the NFL.

Onto the conspiracy that i don't think is much of a conspiracy because the NFL is in the entertainment business. I think it's reality. The officials can help lead a game to a certain outcome as well. I believe that they do this from direction of the owners. It is part of the job of being an NFL Official. Maybe it's not the officials trying to lead to a certain outcome but they certainly make controversial calls on purpose to create more buzz for the NFL.

In the end it's not possible for the players to be part of the scam. They are doing everything they can to make more money. However the owners have done and will continue to change the rules to help make more money for the NFL brand. The owners control the officials and the rules that the officials must follow to call games. Fans have a hard time understanding that the NFL is not in business for fair sports play. They are in business to make money. They are in the entertainment business.

 

[4lifecowboy]

Only four teams have been the beneficiary of more penalty yards on their opponents than the Cowboys, but fans see what they want to see. This isn't by accident folks.

It's a lot easier than accepting this front office hasn't been unable to get over the hump, and they have jobs for life. Let's find a scapegoat, the easiest one in the book.

Where do we rank in penalties against us. They do balance the calls to make it less obvious, but you can't convince me that the timing of the penalties balance out.

 

[Brax]

There’s been so much talk over the officiating this year . But my bigger question is why would you be a fan of the NFL if thought it was rigged or fake ?

Questionable and poor officiating has always been part of the game . In real time it’s often difficult to see very angle . I have a brother in law who did officiating at amateur level and said they simply don’t always see these happening in real time .

The only answer is reviewing every play which surely no one really wants . It’s already dumbing down having to review every TD and catch. Does the game really have to be perfection.

Regardless the sport whether it’s a ball or strike , a personal foul or holding and interference there is a judgement in play based on how they see or don’t see it.

But to suggest without any other evidence that multiple slow-mo camera footage officials aren’t privy to in real time . Over the years we’ve never had any whistle blower , a disgruntled former official or employee , not one bit of evidence of any official or crews of any personal or organized collusion to rig or throw games .

All we have is camera footage after the fact. And of course very frustrated fans who are beside themselves with calls which appear so obvious on camera .

I’m sorry but until further evidence that footage after the fact I’m going to call it more sour grapes which I’m not saying isn’t justified but calling it rigged is baseless . And if they truly believe the league is rigged then why so much vested interest in a fake sport ?

I don’t get it either, why would you invest the time watching and getting emotional if it’s fixed. If it’s fixed it’s best kept secret since the manhattan project and with 1000s of people involved over the years nobody has spilled the beans.

Sorry forgot to add happy new year to you and your family

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

The other day... I was on a PERFECTLY smooth surface...and put a marble on the floor.

IT DIDN'T EVEN ROLL!

go put a green pea on a beach ball...IT ROLLS OFF!

Now you tell me: how is the Earff round? Do YOU see any curve? Even when you get up on your roof?

I don't. The gub'ment ....and THE REFS....want us to think the Earff is round so we don't find out what they've been hiding

 

[Irvin88_4life]

There was a ref in a Pittsburgh Superbowl win that said they made calls to help Pittsburgh.

Can't remember his name now though

 

[Cowboysfandarin]

From strictly a business point of view, it is better for the league overall, when the Cowboys win than it is with any other team. So I find it hard to believe that the Cowboys, or somehow targeted. But I will give you, it does seem that way. Remember it isn’t the number of penalties that are called in a game. It’s when they are called. At crucial times. An official can change the entire direction of a game with one properly timed holding call.

 

[acr731]

There was a ref in a Pittsburgh Superbowl win that said they made calls to help Pittsburgh.

Can't remember his name now though

This play pisses me off every time I watch it.... Refs ignored at least 1 hold and a block in the back on this return.

 

[acr731]

An official can change the entire direction of a game with one properly timed holding call.

I don't think anyone is concerned with 'properly timed' holding calls, they just want some consistency. I'm not one of the conspiracy 'everyone is out to get us' types, but it does seem very strange that Dallas' offense routinely gets called for holding while their opposing offense rarely gets called. It suggests that every offense Dallas goes up against is playing a perfect game when it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that isn't true

 

[DripTooHard]

If they can fake news and events, sport can be rigged too just look around at the so called social media it is nothing but a cesspool of misinformation.
The key is to watch sport as pure entertainment and never take it seriously..

The NFL classifies itself as “entertainment” and not a sport. Surely that helps them evade any possible legal issues associated with shaping outcomes.

 

[SpaceCowboy99]

Reminds me of elementary school when I had to argue with the less intelligent boys that wrestling is fake and they vehemently argued that it was real.

In case you can't figure out which you are:

Wrestling is real = the league is rigged.

 

[Mr_437]

I'm still here ain't I.

 

[DripTooHard]

Only four teams have been the beneficiary of more penalty yards on their opponents than the Cowboys, but fans see what they want to see. This isn't by accident folks.

It's a lot easier than accepting this front office hasn't been unable to get over the hump, and they have jobs for life. Let's find a scapegoat, the easiest one in the book.

Ah yes I was waiting for someone to chime in with the net yardage and net penalty argument. The timing and nature of penalties is the most important thing. For example, does Dallas get defensive holding when it should be PI? 5 yards versus whatever yards. Does Dallas get flagged for holding as soon as Dak breaks the pocket and has a nice run, which is an absolute back breaker and drive killer? Tell me, are other teams held to the same blocking standards when their QBs break the pocket, or are they just “more disciplined”? Do refs even out the penalty totals when the games are already decided, or do they purposely carry teams on their backs when they feel games are starting to get out of hand and viewers may decide to turn off the TV?

If you watch enough games you can predict penalties and non calls very easily.

Also, your argument doesn’t consider non calls at all? What say you about the holding non calls on the Dolphins last drive? How do the refs have such a watchful eye on the Cowboys o-line, but simply miss call after call at this critical point in the game? I wonder what the point spread for the game was and if that may have factored into the swallowing of the whistle?

 

[kskboys]

These games are definitely manipulated at times to keep them close and I have tolerated that.
But it has gotten to the point now where the use of officials to change the outcome in games is just so blatant that it is ruining the product and I can't stomach it much longer my long time friends that I've watched football with since we were kids agree so it's not just me saying this we've all watched football for over 50 years together for that matter.
It seems like for the last 5 years after the games on Sunday all we talk about is all the bad calls or no calls.
Sure the viewing audience is growing the NFL is making more money than ever people are watching it more than ever why because the great majority are casual uninformed fans that don't know what they're looking at with short attention spans on their phones while they're watching the game.
This is what the NFL counts on and gravitates to the casual uninformed fan. To them it's still great entertainment.

To old guys that have spent their life watching football what we see now is a sacrilege.

My bud who used to make fun of me w/ my manipulation talk got changed in the 2017 champ game between JAX and NE. That was the most blatant game manipulation I've ever seen. A D that had 5 penalties all years suddenly had 6 or 7 called against it in one game. Every time Bortles made a play it was called back. It was beyond sick. He called me after the game and actually apologized for making fun of me previously.

 

[kskboys]

From strictly a business point of view, it is better for the league overall, when the Cowboys win than it is with any other team. So I find it hard to believe that the Cowboys, or somehow targeted. But I will give you, it does seem that way. Remember it isn’t the number of penalties that are called in a game. It’s when they are called. At crucial times. An official can change the entire direction of a game with one properly timed holding call.

Jerry has bowed up to the league several times now. That trumps anything else.

 

[kskboys]

There was a ref in a Pittsburgh Superbowl win that said they made calls to help Pittsburgh.

Can't remember his name now though

I hadn't heard that, but I don't doubt it. The Cards/Steelers super bowl was a joke. Cards won that game, n the refs called a penalty to give the Steelers another chance. The Roughing call was ridiculous as Warner had been taking harder and later hits all game that weren't called.

 

[kskboys]

Me personally, if it were ever revealed that the NFL had become scripted garbage like wrestling, I would not watch. I grew up watching the Von Erich's back in the day and thought wrestling was awesome. But as I grew older and became wise to what it really was, I never watched again. It seems the NFL is headed down a similar path, and when they get there they will never recover.

The NFL, and every other sport for that matter, should have distanced themselves from sports betting, not embraced it. People want to believe that what they are watching, the teams they are rooting for, that all of it is real and not manipulated in any way. Sports betting, unfortunately, has placed doubts into the minds of even the most ardent fans. And when the referees seem to be influencing the outcomes of games, that only fuels those doubts.

Take the NBA for example. I used to enjoy watching the NBA until Tim Donaghy came along and exposed the ugly truth about the sport. Does anyone really believe he was the only one rigging games? Not even close - he's the only one who got caught. I have no doubt the Tim Donaghy's are still out there, and in every sport, they've just learned to cover the tracks much better.

Yup. They really need to back off and reexamine what they're doing w/ the refs before it costs them a ton. Those TV contracts are going to lessen significantly if something isn't done.