Would you trade Lawrence?

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  1. cnuball21

    cnuball21 Well-Known Member

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    Draft show brought up a good hypothetical the other day. If the price is just too much to take on, would you consider trading DLaw to a team like the Colts who have a ton of money for a 1st and 3rd?

    It would suck to lose him but the positive would be the money saved to extend more of the core guys next year.
     
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  2. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Of course. He's not untouchable. You can't over value your players to the point of being irrational. If they offer him a fair long term deal for a top 5-10ish DE and they aren't even close to his asking price then a trade should be considered.

    It won't be popular but it could be the best decision over the long term.
     
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  3. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    If the idea is to trade Lawrence for picks and then use that $20M in free cap to sign multiple free agents...then yes I’m all for that plan

    But I’m not trading DLaw to save $. If it’s the usual cowboys front office moves and we sign a cheap dumpster dive FA + rookies we might be fielding 1 of the worst d lines in the nfl this coming year.
     
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  4. cnuball21

    cnuball21 Well-Known Member

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    The plan would be to continue to add quality youth at a low cost and then use the money to extend our current players.

    If we can't afford Lawrence, we can't afford to go out and spend all that money in FA and extend our guys. Now if we can get a guy like Fowler or Houston for a discount? I'm all in.
     
  5. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I would definitely explore the idea.

    The longer this drags out, the more our front office stands the chance of having to commit half of their available cap space to one player or even worse, be left in the cold, holding the bag.
     
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  6. cnuball21

    cnuball21 Well-Known Member

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    Couldn’t agree more.

    Talking Cowboys brought up the Pats situation with Jones and how they let him walk...unfortunately we dont have the luxury of having Brady.
     
  7. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    Lol ok....sad to hear you’ve given up on ever winning a super bowl
     
  8. unionjack8

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    I honestly would do. It appears that his asking for far too much from a team stand point.

    You simply cannot get hindered by a 20m dollar guy that doesn't give you Khalil mack production.

    I would explore it right now.
     
  9. cowboyec

    cowboyec Well-Known Member

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    if I knew there was no chance of a deal...yes.
    And I liked the Ed Oliver option in their scenario...but I also think you could just keep the picks and get 3 solid players...including a DE.
    My preference tho would be to keep him.
     
  10. cnuball21

    cnuball21 Well-Known Member

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    I agree, at least entertain to see what the offer might look like.
     
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  11. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I would take a simple mid-to-late first round pick for him. They want to build through the draft, then put your money where your mouth is.

    Just take a look around the league. Teams signing mega-star contracts are trying desperately to walk away from them within two years.

    Vernon had to be swapped out. Two years from now, we will likely be in the same boat if he's signed for four more years.

    It would take guts, but I certain try to explore the option.
     
  12. cnuball21

    cnuball21 Well-Known Member

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    I’d probably need a little more than a late 1st. Appease me and throw in a 3rd/4th and I’m good.
     
  13. cnuball21

    cnuball21 Well-Known Member

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    Colts get: Lawrence
    Cowboys get: picks 26 and 90

    FA: Sign Justin Houston to a 2 years $15 million dollar ish deal

    Draft:

    26 - Burns / Ferguson
    58 - Thornhill
    90 - Wren
    91 - Isabella

    I could get excited about something like this.
     
  14. beware_d-ware

    beware_d-ware Well-Known Member

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    The problem with getting rid of Lawrence is replacing Lawrence.

    A first round pick and $20 million in freed up cash sounds great, but then you have to consider what it costs to get another starting level DE. You'd probably have to burn that first round pick for sure and hope that he hits, pretty much to get back to where you started at.
     
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  15. Johnny23

    Johnny23 Well-Known Member

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    Lawrence doesn't have an LT level drug problem like Chandler Jones at the time. Not everything is apple's to apple's cnu.
     
  16. RamziD

    RamziD Well-Known Member

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    That’s a fine way to be in perpetual rebuilding mode. I think we’re in a 2-3 year window that we have to take advantage of. Tank will get a large contract, but I don’t think it will hamstrung is in the next 5 years.
     
  17. cnuball21

    cnuball21 Well-Known Member

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    And that is the negative of the situation. Certainly pros and cons to both sides.
     
  18. Mr_437

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    Last two years, DLaw has more sacks than Mack (25-23). If you want to go further in the past go right ahead, but that ain't got nothing to do with now...they in the same ballpark.

    No matter what DAL trade for moving DLaw would be tanking cause nobody on that DL will make a bit of difference. Sign whoever with the money, but QBs are gonna shred this defense easily.

    DE and QB are top 2 positions arguably...DLaw is a top DE no argument, but DAL QB is in the middle of the pack...yet pay him 20+ and have no pass rush, cool.

    No trade will help this team be better next year.
     
  19. cnuball21

    cnuball21 Well-Known Member

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    So if we have Dak and DLaw it doesn’t matter if we can’t afford to keep the rest of our core team bc those 2 will carry us to the Super Bowl?

    I love 90, but he doesn’t deserve to be the highest paid pass rusher in football.
     
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  20. Mr_437

    Mr_437 Well-Known Member

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    Nah, Stephen's not showing he can work the cap well enough to win a SB not matter what approach. Not saying DLaw should be highest paid, just saying his numbers are comparable to Mack, so for posters to say he isn't on that level is shortsighted.

    I think the team props up the QB, actually so to pay him elite money will hurt him and the team. Also, not saying paying DLaw is the answer either, but to talk of trading him and not the QB is interesting, to say the least.
     

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