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I never said there is no life after Romo and don't count me in the camp that does. My point was that Romo covers up many of the warts and wrinkles the Cowboys have been sporting for the last 4-5 years. In addition, there is nothing the Cowboys' front office has done WRT to finding franchise QB talent to have me all that excited. If you are, great; just don't count me in that camp either.

Romo is also one of the warts on the team as well. He hasn't done jack squat for our team and if you think he has, well "don't count me in that camp". I agree with you that our FO has been horrible at finding QB talent, and that include Romo who was an undrafted free agent who has done nothing but played below his regular season numbers in win or go home games and playoff games. You know, those pesky games that actually matter? Those games where your team needs you the most?
 

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The OP question is like playing with a stacked deck. All the options offered were simply people of equal or lesser talents as compared to Romo. What about QBs like Brady, Peyton Manning, Kaepernick, Brees, Luck, Newton, Wilson, Rivers, Foles and the like? There are plenty of players equal or of lesser quality than Romo but there are also plenty I'd opt for in an equal swap. It's not like things couldn't be better, just like it's also true that they could just as easily be equal or worse.
 

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Romo is also one of the warts on the team as well. He hasn't done jack squat for our team and if you think he has, well "don't count me in that camp". I agree with you that our FO has been horrible at finding QB talent, and that include Romo who was an undrafted free agent who has done nothing but played below his regular season numbers in win or go home games and playoff games. You know, those pesky games that actually matter? Those games where your team needs you the most?

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The OP question is like playing with a stacked deck. All the options offered were simply people of equal or lesser talents as compared to Romo. What about QBs like Brady, Peyton Manning, Kaepernick, Brees, Luck, Newton, Wilson, Rivers, Foles and the like? There are plenty of players equal or of lesser quality than Romo but there are also plenty I'd opt for in an equal swap. It's not like things couldn't be better, just like it's also true that they could just as easily be equal or worse.

The QBs you listed are either too old to consider (Manning), have had a career similar to Romo's (Rivers) are on the list simply because they're young (Luck, Newton) or better come with their defense in a package deal (Kaep, Wilson). Foles so far has done what Romo did...come in for an injured veteran, lead his team to the playoffs and lose in the first round.

I'd take Brees or Brady and Luck due to potential but to be honest with this coaching staff and defense I don't see any of them being successful here.
 

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I'd take Brees or Brady and Luck due to potential but to be honest with this coaching staff and defense I don't see any of them being successful here.

All those guys would be more successful than Romo has been and I assure you we would have had a lot more playoff success than just 1 win in 8 years. Doesn't really matter though, what has happened has happened. Romo has 1 or at max 2 years left and we will all be excited when the new guy comes in.
 

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I would not trade Romo for any of the QBs listed. I would trade him for the #1 pick in the draft, though.
 

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All those guys would be more successful than Romo has been and I assure you we would have had a lot more playoff success than just 1 win in 8 years. Doesn't really matter though, what has happened has happened. Romo has 1 or at max 2 years left and we will all be excited when the new guy comes in.

No way you know for a fact the other guys would be more successful. Drew Brees loses his coach and is stuck with a defense better than the one Romo had this year and goes 7-9. They emphasized it on ESPN this morning that this is a team sport and it doesn't matter who your QB is if the team around him can't compete at the NFL level you won't be winning much and the defense this team had was unable to compete.

And be careful what you wish for. Just because someone is young or new doesn't mean they're better. Calling for Romo's departure simply because you don't like him is folly. Better make sure the player who replaces him is better and the team and coaching staff they build around the new guy is better than the one on the field now or nothing will change.
 

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All those guys would be more successful than Romo has been and I assure you we would have had a lot more playoff success than just 1 win in 8 years. Doesn't really matter though, what has happened has happened. Romo has 1 or at max 2 years left and we will all be excited when the new guy comes in.

Don't pay too much attention to ufc... he predicts Romo's demise every year safe in the knowledge that he will eventually be right... in the same way as a broken clock. Just treat his simplistic views of football as low brow comedic relief.
 

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I wouldn't trade him for the QBs listed, but I would trade him in a heartbeat in return for a team's fan base, it could honestly be any team, because this team's fan base is just lousy.

Don't cheer loudly or anything, Dallas's "12th man" is just as bad as it's 1-11 on defense. Not to even mention the cut throat mentality some of our fans have, it's crazy when you see Dallas "fans" say Ware is just some "scrub", or other instances when they just bash their own players for no darn reason. You know it's bad when your team's fan base bashes it's players more than the fans of its division rival do.
 

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No way you know for a fact the other guys would be more successful. Drew Brees loses his coach and is stuck with a defense better than the one Romo had this year and goes 7-9. They emphasized it on ESPN this morning that this is a team sport and it doesn't matter who your QB is if the team around him can't compete at the NFL level you won't be winning much and the defense this team had was unable to compete.

And be careful what you wish for. Just because someone is young or new doesn't mean they're better. Calling for Romo's departure simply because you don't like him is folly. Better make sure the player who replaces him is better and the team and coaching staff they build around the new guy is better than the one on the field now or nothing will change.

No, I don't know for a fact and neither do you. Was just giving my opinion based on what I have seen. I have seen everything Romo has to offer and it's simply not enough and not to mention he is going downhill. If it wasn't enough before, it sure as hell isn't enough now.Those other QB's you have mentioned have higher ceilings and two of them have led their teams to super bowls. I also don't care what they have said on ESPN either, it is mostly just opinions like what you and I have.

Be careful what I wish for? Maybe I should be happy with 6-10, 8-8,8-8,8-8? That is worse to me than 4-12 seasons. At least with 4-12, 5-11 seasons we could truly build this team with top 10 draft picks the way SF and others have. Instead we are forever stuck in mediocrity because our dumb owner keeps over paying veterans like Romo, Ware, Spencer, etc. because he thinks they are the answer. Guys that are nothing more than proven losers.
 

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No, I don't know for a fact and neither do you. Was just giving my opinion based on what I have seen. I have seen everything Romo has to offer and it's simply not enough and not to mention he is going downhill. If it wasn't enough before, it sure as hell isn't enough now.Those other QB's you have mentioned have higher ceilings and two of them have led their teams to super bowls. I also don't care what they have said on ESPN either, it is mostly just opinions like what you and I have.

Be careful what I wish for? Maybe I should be happy with 6-10, 8-8,8-8,8-8? That is worse to me than 4-12 seasons. At least with 4-12, 5-11 seasons we could truly build this team with top 10 draft picks the way SF and others have. Instead we are forever stuck in mediocrity because our dumb owner keeps over paying veterans like Romo, Ware, Spencer, etc. Guys that are proven losers.

Well you said one thing I agree with...our owner is dumb.

We're getting there ufc, lol.
 

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Well you said one thing I agree with...our owner is dumb.

We're getting there ufc, lol.

Hey, we agree on several things... just not Tony Romo. In another year or 2 we won't be talking about him much anymore though.
 

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I would not trade Romo for any of the QBs listed. I would trade him for the #1 pick in the draft, though.

Several of those QB's have proven they can play in the NFL and 3 have won championships. At least a couple of those QB's have only played one season and are still developing. I wouldn't trade Romo for a roll of the dice in the draft unless there was a Peyton Manning or an Andrew Luck sitting there. I wouldn't risk my starting QB who's been very productive for a college player who could end up going bust. Don't know what player you would take in the draft but there's no guarantee's that Manziel or Bridgewater who are the 2 highest rated college QB's will pan out as NFL QB's. Of the QB's listed that you're passing up 15 were 1st round draft picks and 4 of them were the #1 overall pick but you would rather try and beat the odds that the unproven QB you pick(assuming you take a QB) will end up better than Romo or any of those other QB's. Good luck!
 

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No way you know for a fact the other guys would be more successful. Drew Brees loses his coach and is stuck with a defense better than the one Romo had this year and goes 7-9. They emphasized it on ESPN this morning that this is a team sport and it doesn't matter who your QB is if the team around him can't compete at the NFL level you won't be winning much and the defense this team had was unable to compete.

And be careful what you wish for. Just because someone is young or new doesn't mean they're better. Calling for Romo's departure simply because you don't like him is folly. Better make sure the player who replaces him is better and the team and coaching staff they build around the new guy is better than the one on the field now or nothing will change.

He knows nothing for a fact. His existence regarding Romo is hate driven and pure speculation at best.
Very, VERY low football IQ with that one.

Most should know by now that Romo has issues, but he's been very good and is certainly would fall way down the list if anyone is keeping track of areas to upgrade.
 

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Several of those QB's have proven they can play in the NFL and 3 have won championships. At least a couple of those QB's have only played one season and are still developing. I wouldn't trade Romo for a roll of the dice in the draft unless there was a Peyton Manning or an Andrew Luck sitting there. I wouldn't risk my starting QB who's been very productive for a college player who could end up going bust. Don't know what player you would take in the draft but there's no guarantee's that Manziel or Bridgewater who are the 2 highest rated college QB's will pan out as NFL QB's. Of the QB's listed that you're passing up 15 were 1st round draft picks and 4 of them were the #1 overall pick but you would rather try and beat the odds that the unproven QB you pick(assuming you take a QB) will end up better than Romo or any of those other QB's. Good luck!

Absolutely! As I stated in my post, it would have to be the 1st pick of the 2014 draft.

I'll take my chances with either Bilgewater or Manssiere; both have the pedigree. The QBs on that list have shown ability but none of them have either the pedigree or the youth except for RGIII..
 

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The Cowboys aren't winning next year so if I could get a 1st rounder for Romo I would do it.


Last season was our chance and we absolutely blew it.


Now is the time to move in another direction and it would be nice to have Romo's salary off the books.


We need a new coaching staff and we need to throw a stick of dynamite at this thing, build up the OL and DL with young players and get a young QB to start growing with Dez and TWILL.


By the time we finally get this thing right in Dallas, if we ever do, I expect Romo to be on his last leg. The only thing he will do now is keep u hovering around 8-8 and that is not good for him or the Cowboys as a whole.
 

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The Cowboys aren't winning next year so if I could get a 1st rounder for Romo I would do it.


Last season was our chance and we absolutely blew it.


Now is the time to move in another direction and it would be nice to have Romo's salary off the books.


We need a new coaching staff and we need to throw a stick of dynamite at this thing, build up the OL and DL with young players and get a young QB to start growing with Dez and TWILL.


By the time we finally get this thing right in Dallas, if we ever do, I expect Romo to be on his last leg. The only thing he will do now is keep u hovering around 8-8 and that is not good for him or the Cowboys as a whole.

A new direction and new coaching staff can get us maybe NFC title game with a few FA's sprinkled in, with our current talent. Unfortunately Jerry is a moron that is giving this thing another year.

IMO this next season is like probation, or being in prison (not that I have the slightest clue), and we will all wait until next offseason. I still think we need the countdown clock at the top that counts down how long we have left with this clown.
 
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