Would you trade up for Aaron Donald?

SilverStarCowboy · Apr 18, 2014

Nope...only for Manziel!

Seriously though preferably not... in the end maybe for Donald or Barr but that's strictly a need pick so Jerral mite bite the bit and buck the trend.

PSU999 · Apr 18, 2014

ABQCOWBOY said:
according to this, 23rd.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...onType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go

That list is in reverse order....it lists the teams who allowed the most passing yards first

PSU999 · Apr 18, 2014

Hardline said:
Eli Manning ran for his life last season, If Lewen is on the board, he is a Giant.

Due to poor interior OL play. Their LG-C-RG was Boothe-Cordle-Diehl. Giants signed a LG, C, and RG in the offseason.

PSU999 · Apr 18, 2014

BruceCarter54 said:
two #2 corners more like, the giants secondary isn't as great as your making it out too be.....

That's besides the point. DRC and Prince will start. Thurmond will play the slot. The Giants do not have room for another corner to take high in the draft.

ABQcowboyJR · Apr 20, 2014

PSU999 said:
The Giants are starting Geoff Schwartz at LG. Chris Snee/John Jerry will compete for the starting RG spot. They're keeping Pugh at RT.

Not if they draft Lewan.

PSU999 · Apr 21, 2014

ABQcowboyJR said:
Not if they draft Lewan.

They would never draft Lewan because Pugh isn't strong or physical enough to play guard.

ABQcowboyJR · Apr 21, 2014

PSU999 said:
They would never draft Lewan because Pugh isn't strong or physical enough to play guard.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Lewan is head and shoulders above Pugh. Good front offices, which I believe the Giants have, would draft the better player at a premium position and position of need.

xwalker · Apr 21, 2014

ABQcowboyJR said:
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Lewan is head and shoulders above Pugh. Good front offices, which I believe the Giants have, would draft the better player at a premium position and position of need.

I'm still shocked that Pugh was drafting in the 1st round.

PSU999 · Apr 21, 2014

ABQcowboyJR said:
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Lewan is head and shoulders above Pugh. Good front offices, which I believe the Giants have, would draft the better player at a premium position and position of need.

Right Tackle is not a "premium position"

PSU999 · Apr 21, 2014

ABQcowboyJR said:
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Lewan is head and shoulders above Pugh. Good front offices, which I believe the Giants have, would draft the better player at a premium position and position of need.

And it's not a position of need at all. Center is the biggest position of need on the Giants OL.

ABQcowboyJR · Apr 21, 2014

PSU999 said:
Right Tackle is not a "premium position"

No but Lewan is going to be a LT and a damn good one.

PSU999 · Apr 21, 2014

xwalker said:
I'm still shocked that Pugh was drafting in the 1st round.

Pugh outperformed every OT drafted before him last season.....Fisher, Joeckel, Johnson, Fluker....Pugh outplayed them all

PSU999 · Apr 21, 2014

ABQcowboyJR said:
No but Lewan is going to be a LT and a damn good one.

His feet/kick-slide aren't as good as Zach Martin's, he's susceptible to getting beat on the inside, he has red flags from character issues, etc.

ABQcowboyJR · Apr 21, 2014

PSU999 said:
His feet/kick-slide aren't as good as Zach Martin's, he's susceptible to getting beat on the inside, he has red flags from character issues, etc.

I disagree with your assessment of the player. He does of some flags about character issues, but he projects as the better tackle IMO.

xwalker · Apr 21, 2014

PSU999 said:
Pugh outperformed every OT drafted before him last season.....Fisher, Joeckel, Johnson, Fluker....Pugh outplayed them all

According to what?

Hopefully you're not going by PFF rankings. Those have repeatedly been proved to be garbage.

Rockport · Apr 21, 2014

guag said:
It seems to me that Chicago is the team most likely to snatch him up in front of us (they pick 14th). If Donald is still there at 13, do we trade up 3 spots to ensure that he's our man? I can't imagine it would cost that much to move from 16 to 13 in a draft where everyone wants to trade down.

Thoughts?

We need all the help, i.e. draft picks, we can get so I'd definitely not trade up. Trading down is going to be tough as well since it's a fairly deep draft and lots of teams will be leaning that direction.

PSU999 · Apr 21, 2014

xwalker said:
According to what?

Hopefully you're not going by PFF rankings. Those have repeatedly been proved to be garbage.

By the eye test alone. Fisher and Johnson were turnstiles for most of the season. Joeckel got hurt. Fluker and Pugh were the top performing rookie OTs, with a slight edge to Pugh.

AsthmaField · Apr 21, 2014

IMO, Lewan is going to be a much better pro than Pugh... but that is just my opinion.

Pugh is a decent player but more like a second round OL.

PSU999 · Apr 21, 2014

AsthmaField said:
IMO, Lewan is going to be a much better pro than Pugh... but that is just my opinion.

Pugh is a decent player but more like a second round OL.

Pugh is a better tackle than guard...so by moving Pugh inside you are then diminishing his value...which cancels out the upgrade you get from Lewan replacing Pugh at OT

Pugh has never played guard in his career. He was a LT for 3 years in college and started 16 games at RT last year. Why move a known commodity as a proven OT?

ABQCOWBOY · Apr 21, 2014

PSU999 said:
Right Tackle is not a "premium position"

It is in today's NFL.

Would you trade up for Aaron Donald?

The Actualist

Member

Member

Member

Well-Known Member

Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Member

Member

Well-Known Member

Member

Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

AmberBeer

Member

Outta bounds

Member

Regular Joe....