Would you want to play in a weaker division?

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Philly
Pittsburg
San Diego
Denver
Seattle
New Orleans
San Fran

That's just the top of my head. I'm sure there are more.

I said in their respective divisions. So no Houston, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Buffalo, New York Jets, Miami Dophins is my point. Two teams have spent a decade and a half being dominant in two of the worst divisions in football.

Tennesee back in the early 2000s and the Jets during 2010-2011 are the only exceptions.
 

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I said in their respective divisions. So no Houston, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Buffalo, New York Jets, Miami Dophins is my point. Two teams have spent a decade and a half being dominant in two of the worst divisions in football.

Tennesee back in the early 2000s and the Jets during 2010-2011 are the only exceptions.

Maybe I didn't understand what you were asking, but how are any of the teams I listed not relevant in their divisions?

Edit: OK, you meant those 2 divisions exclusively? Maybe those teams just suck?
 

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Playing in a weak division gives you a free pass for home field advantage and the bye week. I love the NFC East rivalries but even when the East sux they circle the Cowboys game and make it their Superbowl.
 

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Look at the Patriots who have had weak division for over a decade.

The weaker the division the more chances you get to make the playoffs. The more chances you get to make the playoffs, the more chances you have at a super bowl.

Being able to count on 5-6 easy wins per year, absolutely helps your team out in the pursuit of championships.

You stole my answer. I immediately thought of the Pats.

But only have they feasted on a weak division for 6 easy wins a year, but those easy wins help give them a first round bye and homefield throughout the playoffs.

It's infuriating how easy a path plus how much the Pats have got to their Super Bowl wins. I actually hate them more than the Eagles, Giants or Commanders and respect them less than any championship team I've ever seen.
 

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You stole my answer. I immediately thought of the Pats.

But only have they feasted on a weak division for 6 easy wins a year, but those easy wins help give them a first round bye and homefield throughout the playoffs.

It's infuriating how easy a path plus how much the Pats have got to their Super Bowl wins. I actually hate them more than the Eagles, Giants or Commanders and respect them less than any championship team I've ever seen.

At this point, this type of hate is laughable. Maybe their division is bad because they beat them, year in and year out. They have been great for 15 years man. The entire 2000's, they haven't had a losing season.
 

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You stole my answer. I immediately thought of the Pats.

But only have they feasted on a weak division for 6 easy wins a year, but those easy wins help give them a first round bye and homefield throughout the playoffs.

It's infuriating how easy a path plus how much the Pats have got to their Super Bowl wins. I actually hate them more than the Eagles, Giants or Commanders and respect them less than any championship team I've ever seen.

A lot of Vinitieri tucking deflated balls into the camera well
 

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Given that free agency has kind of killed the true animosity in rivalries amongst players, I'd tentatively be in favor of a geographic realignment of the divisions. Dallas really has no business in the NFC East. If they wanted to make it real simple, swap Carolina and Dallas.
 

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At this point, this type of hate is laughable. Maybe their division is bad because they beat them, year in and year out. They have been great for 15 years man. The entire 2000's, they haven't had a losing season.

Yes, the Bills, jets, and Dolphins have been perennial powerhouses. The evil Pats have forced them to pick in the top ten of the draft every year since...well I can't even remember..
 

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Title says it all.

If you could take the Cowboys and switch them with any other team in football, would you do it? Why or why not?

If so, which team would you switch with, and why?

Personally, I wouldn't. There's too much rich history among the rivalries in the NFC East.

Ask the pats. Theyve benefitted greatly from it.
 

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At this point, this type of hate is laughable. Maybe their division is bad because they beat them, year in and year out. They have been great for 15 years man. The entire 2000's, they haven't had a losing season.

Please tell me where I said something that was incorrect.
 

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It's relative and cyclical. There have been years when every other division is stronger and the NFC East is weaker and years when the NFC East is stronger and other divisions are weaker.

Besides, I've convinced the tougher the division, the better your chances of advancing to and winning the Super Bowl.

During the 90s, the winner of the NFC East - if the team advanced to the Super Bowl - basically could start engraving the Super Bowl trophy after they won the NFC Championship Game.
 

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Title says it all.

If you could take the Cowboys and switch them with any other team in football, would you do it? Why or why not?

If so, which team would you switch with, and why?

Personally, I wouldn't. There's too much rich history among the rivalries in the NFC East.

I love having the rivals we have in the NFC East, You have all 4 teams who have been to the SB, 3 having won it multiple times. Like any teams and divisions they all including Dallas have fallen on hard times at one point or another but there is a rich history with the East and it still makes for a very interesting race each season
 

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There's no more tradition or rivalry in the NFL. All the proof you needed was Tashard Choice getting Mike Vick's autograph a while back. Every player in the league is basically a mercenary.

That's not really true. First, Tashard Choice is a nobody, and most players are merely usuable commodities. The elite players in the league very much wear their colors with a chip on their shoulders for many teams. Plus, it's about bitter fan-base emotion steeped in bad-blooded NFL history. There's a lot of real butthurt and red meat between many of them.

Baseball and basketball have very little of this. There's a few decent rivalries, but it's not the same as football because of the physicality and gladiator nature of the game.

And players in the NFL do get caught up in it, at least temporarily. The Commanders, Giants and Eagles players genuinely hate the Cowboy organization. The Baltimore-Pittsburgh thing is real. So is the Jets-Patriots, Packers-Bears, Raiders-Broncos-Chiefs, 49ers-Seahawks, etc.

I agree with you when it comes to baseball entirely, and basketball for the most part as well. Soccer has suffered, too, although the fan bases are as emotionally invested as the NFL.
 

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We have big games with big rivals throughout each season, and it's an exciting thing to look forward to, but I remember what an advantage it was for the Niners all those years to go into the playoffs unexposed and with home field advantage because they skated through their division.

The same thing has happened with Pittsburgh. Thier division has been weak for the most part for the last 20 years. They could usually count on 4 gimmie wins with Cincy and Cleveland. They usually split with Baltimore. That is 5 wins right there. Win 4 of your remaing 5 home games (many in bad weather) and you already have 9 wins.
 

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No. The tougher competition enables the team to be better prepared in the playoffs.
 

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I would hate to lose the rivalries. But it is unfair that the Cowboys play in the East. The other teams are a bus ride on I-95 away from each other. The Cowboys are half a continent away. Geographically, the Cowboys should play in the NFC south.

Dallas won't be driving to any opponents place anyway.
But yes, our flights to division foes should be accounted for in scheduling at the very least.

Ex. it was pure lunacy last year when they scheduled us for the late Sunday night game at New York before flying back in the early morning Monday, only to play division rival Philly on mid-day Thursday.
 

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I like playing in a tough division, this way when we win said division it is that much sweeter.
 

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Yes. I would rather cakewalk into the playoffs and give us more chances to win a Super Bowl.

I would miss the rivalries, but I think that is one of the big things the Pats have had going for them...the AFC East has been a joke.




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