Wow, watching Mike Singletary on NFL Network....

[odog422]

I always thought Jerry liked Singletary but had doubt because he didn't see the creampuff in Singletary that he saw in Wade. No doubt that due to Wade's personality Jerry knew he would be able to be front and center again with no interference, maybe not so much with Singletary. Throw in Wade's experience with the 3-4 and IMO that cinched it for Jerry.

Singletary strikes me now as he did then, passionate and understanding the need for structural heirarchy. Yes, I wanted him too, because he knew the game, succeeded (HOF), and I knew he was a motivational speaker which I thought was a huge plus.

 

[Mansta54]

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Now, that's a real HC........

 

[Eddie]

Doesn't matter who our HC is ... Jerry Jones is running the show.

 

[tyke1doe]

There is no question this team needs discipline. They tackle poorly. They have too many penalties and they lack leadership, both on and off the field. I've said this for 5 years running. Some seem to think leadership isn't important. Those who think the same haven't actually PLAYED the game OF LIFE I would guess.

Fixed that for ya.

 

[tyke1doe]

Now, that's a real HC........

Shilo gonna make me knock him out!

Dang, I'm pumped up.

It's sad we totally ignored Singletary for a puppet.

 

[tyke1doe]

Well he better win big early because that act isn't going to work on a veteran team of millionaires.

What act will?

The cupcake approach certainly won't.

If you have a veteran team of fat-cat millionaires, you start purging them and getting young, hungry guys who want to play. That's the way good teams do it like the Patriots, Steelers and Giants. Get rid of the guys who are getting settled in their millions or who are reaching their peak headed for a downhill slide and get a head coach who can mold young guys to play the type football you expect and demand.

 

[tyke1doe]

I always thought Jerry liked Singletary but had doubt because he didn't see the creampuff in Singletary that he saw in Wade. No doubt that due to Wade's personality Jerry knew he would be able to be front and center again with no interference, maybe not so much with Singletary. Throw in Wade's experience with the 3-4 and IMO that cinched it for Jerry.

Singletary strikes me now as he did then, passionate and understanding the need for structural heirarchy. Yes, I wanted him too, because he knew the game, succeeded (HOF), and I knew he was a motivational speaker which I thought was a huge plus.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Yeah, because the niners are close to winning a playoff game, let alone make an appearance.

Singletary is doing it the right way. Like (contrary to popular opinion) Parcells was. You establish what will and won't be tolerated, you make it known if you don't perform you lose your job.

The best year Phillips had was his first, then he started to lose this team and now we are seeing the results of Phillips family atmospher.

I would have took Singletary after Parcells way before what Jerry did.

 

[diehard2294]

someone send this to Wade so he can learn from it

 

[Mansta54]

Well he better win big early because that act isn't going to work on a veteran team of millionaires.

What act? You're missing the point. It's no act, that's what disciplined hardnosed HC's do. They hold you accountable and let you know when your screwing up but they also pat you on the back when you're performing well too... It's no act!!!!

 

[tyke1doe]

Yeah, because the niners are close to winning a playoff game, let alone make an appearance.

Well, they are on top of their division for now.

Whether the Nines make the playoffs or not at this point is irrelevant. We're not close to playoff time yet.

I think what posters are responding to is style of coaching and leadership. There's something to be said about a good leader. He sets the course. He establishes his authority. He knows what's going on. He disciplines. He corrects. He encourages but all from the frame work of leadership.

We see that in Singletary.

What do we see in Wade?

"I don't know why Barber wasn't in the game."
"The bye week was like winning a playoff game."
"I don't think the better team won."
"Pass me another cupcake, Jerry."
Hands thrown in the air at a play that doesn't work or another error by his team.
No tackling during the week.

Maybe Singletary won't be a playoff coach. But at least he's establishing a tenor with his team. They may lose, but they're going to give it their all.

What tenor is Wade establishing? "Yeah, we loss. But we're better than what our record suggests."
The easy going devil-may-care attitude that finds losing acceptable and no big deal.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Ah, the grass is greener on the other side so early in the season. Let's see where the 49ers end up this year and in the future. If they're successful, more power to Singletary. If not, I won't be surprised and neither should anybody else. There are ANYBODY BUT WADE undertones in every post of this forum.

 

[yimyammer]

Well, they are on top of their division for now.

Whether the Nines make the playoffs or not at this point is irrelevant. We're not close to playoff time yet.

I think what posters are responding to is style of coaching and leadership. There's something to be said about a good leader. He sets the course. He establishes his authority. He knows what's going on. He disciplines. He corrects. He encourages but all from the frame work of leadership.

We see that in Singletary.

What do we see in Wade?

"I don't know why Barber wasn't in the game."
"The bye week was like winning a playoff game."
"I don't think the better team won."
"Pass me another cupcake, Jerry."
Hands thrown in the air at a play that doesn't work or another error by his team.
No tackling during the week.

Maybe Singletary won't be a playoff coach. But at least he's establishing a tenor with his team. They may lose, but they're going to give it their all.

What tenor is Wade establishing? "Yeah, we loss. But we're better than what our record suggests."
The easy going devil-may-care attitude that finds losing acceptable and no big deal.

Very well said and this is a big part of my beef with Jerry and his lacky coaches. I believe this is hugely important and more effective than ever before because of the parity from team to team.

I really love Singletary's style too. He's intense, to the point, but manages to respect his players in the way he communicates to them (ie he's not a raving lunatic dog cussing or belittling them). He doesn't seem to exhibit the extreme characteristics of Parcells and Jimmy, both of which I think wear thin in the long run.

It will be interesting to see how it turns out in SF, I like Mike and want him to succeed, but I hate the Niners.

 

[Seven]

seeing how he gets on his players, lets them know what and what is acceptable.....threatening too bench players...getting in their *** about mistakes

and you can see how they respond, like Morgan, who had a drop, then he got all over him, n the next opportunity he got, he mossed 2 players for a TD....

Damn bro, we need a coach like that

not like Wade, who just makes up his face, throws his arms up, like its the ref's fault ...i hate seeing that, get in someones face, make them know there job is not safe, whether its Witten or Ware, let them know you dont play that ****

There is no such thing as fear in the NFL. I've been told even Mike Singletary doesn't use that tactic. When he threatens to bench an O-Lineman, that O-Lineman just says ok; I'll get another job somewhere else. No mention of not wanting to let himself, or his teammates, or his coach down, or he'll do better......... He wants to lose his J.O.B.


Fear? In the NFL? Nah...............

 

[yimyammer]

There is no such thing as fear in the NFL. I've been told even Mike Singletary doesn't use that tactic. When he threatens to bench an O-Lineman, that O-Lineman just says ok; I'll get another job somewhere else. No mention of not wanting to let himself, or his teammates, or his coach down, or he'll do better......... He wants to lose his J.O.B.


Fear? In the NFL? Nah...............

Sad, but probably true, there's got to be something that works with players these days. I think you have to start by seriously evaluating the personality of the player as much as the athletic talent

Can you elaborate on who you've "been told" info about Singletary? What's your source? Are you/they saying Mike is a fraud, ineffective, what?

 

[Seven]

Sad, but probably true, there's got to be something that works with players these days. I think you have to start by seriously evaluating the personality of the player as much as the athletic talent.

Agreed. It may not work with everyone but I think the athletes that want to win and be on the field as part of that...........fear of losing their job weighs heavily. IMO........those are the types that you'd want on your team.

Can you elaborate on who you've "been told" info about Singletary? What's your source? Are you/they saying Mike is a fraud, ineffective, what?

I don't want to start a rift but I can say it wasn't a professional or anything of the like. Just someone's opinion, like mine, worth about a cup of coffee.



Make you no mistake; Mike Singletary is not a fraud. He's got as much passion as when he was suiting up. So far I think we'd both agree he's been effective.

 

[marchetta]

A Singletary type coach wouldn't work here with JJ constantly undermining his authority. JJ's far too involved with the coaching staff and players. He should just stick to marketing the team/stadium and player aquisition and leave the day to day coaching decisions alone. The players have no respect for the HC's authority, since they know who's really calling the shots. Until that changes, nothing is going to change. This team will never develop leadership skills with JJ's constant interference. A team has to take on the personality of its head coach. And when the head coach is a unich, the team will be also.

 

[DallasDomination]

I've been saying it !!!!!!!!!! Singletary has the makings of a great coach. I'm jeleous of the Niners, I wish We had Him here in Dallas.

 

[pjjrfan]

There is no question this team needs discipline. They tackle poorly. They have too many penalties and they lack leadership, both on and off the field. I've said this for 5 years running. Some seem to think leadership isn't important. Those who think same haven't actually PLAYED the game I would guess.

It's not only in sports, but any successful organization there is accountability for what your job is supposed to be. Tom Landry was not a get in your face guy but as Cowboy fan since they came into the league I can remember players even the caliber of Lilly and Staubach dreading the film sessions with coach Landry. Walsh in San Francisco wasn't a screamer but like Landry was demanding and expected execuiton and made everyone accountable for their actions or play. Whatever the coaches personal style whether it's Ditka, Bellichek, Landry, Noll, or Lombardi, they demanded perfection, and held everyone accountable for their play. I very quckly noticed that on the Cowboy's Denver game, Witten getting the guys together before their last drive while Romo sat with a big smile on his face, Garrett was glued to that piece of paper he carries in front of his face and Phillips stood on the sideline with the same puzzled look he gets when his team is floundering.

That's tough to watch when you've been a fan and went through the pain of the ice bowl, the two cleveland playoff losses, the Baltimore loss in the Super Bowl, seeing Lilly throw his helmet halfway across the field, then seeing this team overcome all that to become one of the elite teams in all of NFL football history. And now to watch this Cowboys team with it's rich history look like a joke, a bunch of underachievers totally lacking , except for a handful of players, of any kind of desire or effort to excel. It's just sad.

 

[Seven]

A Singletary type coach wouldn't work here with JJ constantly undermining his authority.

No one in the Cowboys org. was throwing that name around. As soon as Wade's named was mentioned most knew wht was going to happen. I think Mr. Winnicki naiiled it early on............"Wade is a Buffoon."