WR Chris Henry suspended for 1st 4 games

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I wouldn't consider weed substance abuse but hey who am I to judge...who am I the judge???
Weed's pretty harmless, but it can still get you suspended in the NFL. So it is an issue.
 

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I do it.

There's no risk involved. You sign him, see if he is in shape enough to compete for a spot on the team. If he is, you wait the four games and gradually implement him into the offense over the course of the season.

What amazes me about Henry is I believe he has 17 career touchdowns in 35 games played. Not a bad ratio.

He's tall, young, scores TD and stretches a field. You don't even have to rely on him all that much. Throw him in occasionally as the third receiver, sometimes as the fourth and just play your game.
 

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this thread isnt really happening is it?

I bumped my head earlier and this is a nightmare I hope.

After hearing brad sham on with norm earlier and hearing how worried internally the team might be about wr, i shudder at even the thought of henry
 

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theebs;2168882 said:
this thread isnt really happening is it?

I bumped my head earlier and this is a nightmare I hope.

After hearing brad sham on with norm earlier and hearing how worried internally the team might be about wr, i shudder at even the thought of henry
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I don't know.

I know that some people probably share my view in that it's going to be a waiting game with AJ as it is. I'm kind of waiting for the other foot to drop. I hope the best, but there is that little thing in the back of my mind that thinks it could go south in an instant. I don't think I want to deal with more than one per year at the same time. Of course, that's just my opinion. I think he could be a great addition, talent wise, but not worth the extra trouble when we have one player working on redemption already.

At the very least, I wouldn't rush to get him. If, four weeks into the season, we are desperately needing a WR and he is available, I may be on board with picking him up.
 

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Nav22;2168838 said:
Not that I want Henry (I don't)...

But if T.O., Tank, and Pacman (so far) can all come to Dallas and clean up their act, maybe Henry could do the same.

Calvin Hill appears to be a miracle-worker.

That is a big "so far" isn't it? Pacman has yet to play in a regular season game for Dallas. I would like to see him make it through a full season before Dallas tries for another guy who has a checkered past. One project at a time.
 

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RainMan;2168877 said:
I do it.

There's no risk involved. You sign him, see if he is in shape enough to compete for a spot on the team. If he is, you wait the four games and gradually implement him into the offense over the course of the season.

What amazes me about Henry is I believe he has 17 career touchdowns in 35 games played. Not a bad ratio.

He's tall, young, scores TD and stretches a field. You don't even have to rely on him all that much. Throw him in occasionally as the third receiver, sometimes as the fourth and just play your game.

i agree. tell me guys if he kept himself out of trouble you would not want his talent on the field, I would.:D
 

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All I know is that the majority of the board was anti-T.O. once... until he showed up and started playing well.

Then they were mostly anti-Pacman... until he showed up and has looked good in camp.

Now it's Chris Henry. Same deal. Nobody wants him... but if we do sign him, we'll jump on board if he starts playing well for us.

And for the record, I was 100% on board with the T.O. and Pacman additions. I don't know if Henry's reward is worth the risk, though... our young WRs might be good enough.
 

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I don't know if Henry's reward is worth the risk, though... our young WRs might be good enough.

I see what you're saying and can debate either side of picking up Henry. We do need depth at receiver and I think he is better than the WRs on the roster after T.O. With that said, I'm not so sure I would want to deal with his troubles. But, I also don't want to hinge our offensive hopes on young receiver that "might be good enough."

I dunno. We'll see.
 

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PBJTime;2168890 said:
I don't know.

I know that some people probably share my view in that it's going to be a waiting game with AJ as it is. I'm kind of waiting for the other foot to drop. I hope the best, but there is that little thing in the back of my mind that thinks it could go south in an instant. I don't think I want to deal with more than one per year at the same time. Of course, that's just my opinion. I think he could be a great addition, talent wise, but not worth the extra trouble when we have one player working on redemption already.

At the very least, I wouldn't rush to get him. If, four weeks into the season, we are desperately needing a WR and he is available, I may be on board with picking him up.

I understand your concern, PBJ. I'm the same way with Pacman. I think it's obvious he's trying to get his life together--but when you've had a lifetime full of mistakes, it's hard to completely change everything in an instant. Not impossible, but hard.

It would be the same with Chris Henry. Still, we're just talking about a minimum salary, no trade required and one measly roster spot. I think it's well worth it for a receiver that averages a TD every two games.

Where I do disagree with you is that I think if we're going to act, we need to act fast. Why? To get this guy in the system, in shape, under Calvin Hill's umbrella and onto the field working with Romo.

We saw what happened with Tank last year when we signed him midseason. He didn't completely fit the scheme, took a while to warm up with the guys, etc.

If we want Henry -- and want him to be any type of impact -- we can't wait until October to sign him. I think it'd be a wasted addition at that point. He'd spend all his time trying to learn the playbook as opposed to getting out there and making plays. Get him now, and there's a better chance it could be a seamless transition when he is reinstated.

Besides, all you have to do is release that Todd fella or a Mike Jefferson at this point. No big risk.
 

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the DoNkEy PuNcH;2168910 said:
I see what you're saying and can debate either side of picking up Henry. We do need depth at receiver and I think he is better than the WRs on the roster after T.O. With that said, I'm not so sure I would want to deal with his troubles. But, I also don't want to hinge our offensive hopes on young receiver that "might be good enough."

I dunno. We'll see.

Agreed. It's a pretty huge "might" with Hurd and Austin. Hurd is a capable backup, but I think a career backup (perhaps a pretty good one, though) but not necessarily a guy that can move up the ladder and start. Austin reminds me of Tyson Thompson --- tons of athleticism and potential, but you just wonder if it's going to come together and create a good football player at this level.

The good news if you sign Henry is those guys don't vanish. If Hurd, Austin or Stanback step up, you release Henry or keep him inactive. But if they don't, you have a 6-foot-4, 25-year-old guy that averages a TD every two games in your back pocket.
 

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RainMan;2168912 said:
I understand your concern, PBJ. I'm the same way with Pacman. I think it's obvious he's trying to get his life together--but when you've had a lifetime full of mistakes, it's hard to completely change everything in an instant. Not impossible, but hard.

It would be the same with Chris Henry. Still, we're just talking about a minimum salary, no trade required and one measly roster spot. I think it's well worth it for a receiver that averages a TD every two games.

Where I do disagree with you is that I think if we're going to act, we need to act fast. Why? To get this guy in the system, in shape, under Calvin Hill's umbrella and onto the field working with Romo.

We saw what happened with Tank last year when we signed him midseason. He didn't completely fit the scheme, took a while to warm up with the guys, etc.

If we want Henry -- and want him to be any type of impact -- we can't wait until October to sign him. I think it'd be a wasted addition at that point. He'd spend all his time trying to learn the playbook as opposed to getting out there and making plays. Get him now, and there's a better chance it could be a seamless transition when he is reinstated.

Besides, all you have to do is release that Todd fella or a Mike Jefferson at this point. No big risk.

Good post. All your points make sense.

I think we all know that Jerry would place conditions in his contract that make it void if he screws up. Not sure Henry has the same thought process as Pacman at this point, i.e., this could be his last chance. Maybe Hill can work his mojo on yet another troubled soul.
 

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Nav22;2168896 said:
All I know is that the majority of the board was anti-T.O. once... until he showed up and started playing well.

Then they were mostly anti-Pacman... until he showed up and has looked good in camp.

Now it's Chris Henry. Same deal. Nobody wants him... but if we do sign him, we'll jump on board if he starts playing well for us.

And for the record, I was 100% on board with the T.O. and Pacman additions. I don't know if Henry's reward is worth the risk, though... our young WRs might be good enough.

That's part of being a fan, though, and I think completely understandable.

I was highly pro T.O., anti Pacman until about a week before the move was made, and have been pro Henry for some time now (assuming he didn't get a lengthy suspension).

The key to everything is a player showing willingness to improve as a person. T.O. has been a great teammate for the past 20 or so months. Pacman has been great since he's gotten here. That's the main reason people have warmed up to both.

If Henry signed and gave a big f-you to the fans, I doubt Cowboy fans would be as receptive. :)
 

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not that I want Henry on the team, but it seems a little puzzling that Henry has already served his suspension for his previous arrests, the charges were dropped for this incident, and he's still suspended for 4 games?
No charges should equal no violation of the league's conduct policy.

Godell is being pretty inconsistent with this and the Lynch situation it seems.
 

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I don't understand how he only got 4 games coming off two prior suspensions of 8 games and a year and now they dropped it back down to four despite getting himself into trouble?

That doesn't make sense to me but I guess it's simply because he was able to get the charges dropped before the season began so instead of having to wait on trials and such it's already over with.

*Shrugs*
 

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I don't see JJ signing Henry.

IMO, JJ wants to see what he has with his young WRs for the time being, and if we wait until after the suspension to sign Henry, it will probably take him several weeks to get in football shape and learn the playbook.

I think the only way JJ signs Henry is if there are a bunch of injuries at WR (let's all hope not!) and he's desperate to sign another WR. I just don't see this as a real probability.
 

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JohnL2288;2168936 said:
not that I want Henry on the team, but it seems a little puzzling that Henry has already served his suspension for his previous arrests, the charges were dropped for this incident, and he's still suspended for 4 games?
No charges should equal no violation of the league's conduct policy.

Godell is being pretty inconsistent with this and the Lynch situation it seems.

Agreed. As much of a PR headache it might be to have a player charged with something, if the charges are dropped I don't see how a suspension is warranted. This guy seems like a bit of a tool, but if the charges were dropped...
 

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cowboys2233;2168799 said:
Yeah, for some reason, this guy just seems way more punkish and thuggish than Pacman ever did to me. He is just a really, really stupid and despicable person.

No thanks. And again, he had substance issues, didn't he? That's where Jerry draws the line, and he's smart for that. No reliabiliy whatsoever.

I agree.. I see Henry as more the thuggish idiot, and Pacman as the fun loving idiot. I guess you never really know how someone really is, but I can certainly say I don't want him here.
 
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