WR Matt Jones getting close to being released?

[Stash]

what numbers are you looking at for this non-sense? Harper played 4yrs here, caught 124 passes for 2486yds (avg of 20.0yds per catch) and scored 18tds...that means his AVERAGE season was 31 receptions for 621yds, 20.0yds per catch and 4.5tds...his numbers got better every year in Dallas...his 4yr yds per catch totals dwarfed Jones'...16.3, 16.1, 21.6 & 24.9...then he added 24 more catches for 655yds (27.3avg) and 4 more tds in te postseason...if both guys avg the same amount of catches, but one guys averages a good 7 yds per catch or so more, gee I dunno, who's better Stash?

Obviously you 'don't know', The fact is you're trying to perpetrate a fraud here and anybody who looks can see it.

Jones has played three years, you can't compare Harper's 4 years to Jones' three just because it would help make your case.

And that's not even factoring in the fact that Harper was a receiver upon arrival and that Jones is still learning the position.

Look at each players first 3 years in the league, that's the only fair and honest comparison. Then come back and tell me who had more catches and more touchdowns. I know Harper had more yardage, but last time I checked you won for scoring more touchdowns.

and he'd be one of those mistakes, but Wilford and Reggie Williams have both been better than Jones

Going into last season, where he was benched and deactivated, Jones' numbers were as good or better than those two. Who was it again who led the team in receiving for 2006?

see above...I guess you've said this so much now that you really believe its true, when clearly it isnt...nor if you watched the two play together would anyone with half a brain draw the same conclusion

Facts are facts pal, no matter how badly you'd like it to be otherwise. Anyone with a pair of eyes can go to NFL.com and pull up the numbers for themselves.

who ever said he earned it? He did his job so well though that he earned a 4yr, multi million dollar extension didnt he? Highly doubt Matt Jones is ever seeing a 4yr contract extension at any point during his dismal career, and unlike Jones who almost assuredly will be dumped by his team, Crayton clearly wont be here and is an integral part of the offense whether he starts as the #2 guy or ends up as the #3 guy

Jones panicked and signed Crayton because he had nobody else. I would have done the same. Crayton had a good season, but the fact is that he was fortunate to luck into a starting role, not that he earned it.

You can again 'speculate' whatever you want about Matt Jones, doesn't make it true. The same as anything else you've posted. It's all your opinion.

Moss= talent, Matt Jones= no talent

Keep telling yourself that, maybe some day you'll believe it. Few others do.

sure will...but even if he does end up somewhere, I'll stick by my guns and say he'll never be productive nor will he ever earn a starting job...he just doesnt have the skill set for the position, nor does he work hard

And despite that 'perception, even 'dogging it', Jones has put up good numbers.....

 

[dbair1967]

Obviously you 'don't know', The fact is you're trying to perpetrate a fraud here and anybody who looks can see it.

the guys not a good player Stash...please find me any reputable source that says otherwise

Jones has played three years, you can't compare Harper's 4 years to Jones' three just because it would help make your case.

I even took the averages Stash...you choose not to take Harper's 4yr into account because it hurts your cause badly...the fact is though Jones probably wont get a 4th yr in Jacksonville to even make the comparison your trying to make...even if I take Harper's 4th yr in Dallas out of the equation, he is still comparable as Harper still averages 30 catches a season (Jones averages 33) and his yds per catch is still substancially higher (18.3 as compared to Jones' 13.8)...the only thing Jones has him on is tds, and its 13-10 but of course Jones didnt have players like Emmitt Smith, Irvin and Novecek to eat up all the TD opportunities either.

And that's not even factoring in the fact that Harper was a receiver upon arrival and that Jones is still learning the position.

he was a 1st rd pick though and has all this tremendous skill that you keep pointing out to us

Look at each players first 3 years in the league, that's the only fair and honest comparison. Then come back and tell me who had more catches and more touchdowns. I know Harper had more yardage, but last time I checked you won for scoring more touchdowns.

its 3 more tds Stash, its not some dramatically different number as you try to insinuate.

Going into last season, where he was benched and deactivated, Jones' numbers were as good or better than those two. Who was it again who led the team in receiving for 2006?

and who is it the team cant wait to get rid of? So what, he had one flukey season...even the blind squirrel finds the nut occassionally

Facts are facts pal, no matter how badly you'd like it to be otherwise. Anyone with a pair of eyes can go to NFL.com and pull up the numbers for themselves.

yep they can and I did, and have shown all the numbers...and anyone with any sort of sense also knows Harper was a vastly better player in dallas than Matt Jones has ever been, or will be in Jacksonville

Jones panicked and signed Crayton because he had nobody else. I would have done the same. Crayton had a good season, but the fact is that he was fortunate to luck into a starting role, not that he earned it.

Jones didnt sign Crayton out of panic, he signed him because he wanted him to be part of the team for years to come and knew if he hit the open market, some WR desperate team would drive up the price to get him...Jones did a smart thing

You can again 'speculate' whatever you want about Matt Jones, doesn't make it true. The same as anything else you've posted. It's all your opinion.

I dont think its speculation when 99.9% of the football world says the same thing I do

Keep telling yourself that, maybe some day you'll believe it. Few others do.

huh? you think Matt Jones is a similar talent to Randy Moss? holy freaking crap dude

And despite that 'perception, even 'dogging it', Jones has put up good numbers.....

mediocre numbers Stash...30 catches a yr for 13.8yds per catch in a pass happy league is mediocrity

David

 

[Stash]

I even took the averages Stash...you choose not to take Harper's 4yr into account because it hurts your cause badly...the fact is though Jones probably wont get a 4th yr in Jacksonville to even make the comparison your trying to make...even if I take Harper's 4th yr in Dallas out of the equation, he is still comparable as Harper still averages 30 catches a season (Jones averages 33) and his yds per catch is still substancially higher (18.3 as compared to Jones' 13.8)...the only thing Jones has him on is tds, and its 13-10 but of course Jones didnt have players like Emmitt Smith, Irvin and Novecek to eat up all the TD opportunities either.

Do you realize how obvious and assinine you look trying to ***** Harper's year four numbers into a comparison with Jones who's played only three?

Do you realize how transparent your agenda has become?

And Harper was this huge deep threat, you'd figure a deep threat would get into the endzone more, not less? Oh, but now Smith, Irvin, and Novacek are somehow detriments to poor Harper?

It gets more pathetic with each post.

Why didn't Harper score more touchdowns when he was freed from those big meanies stealing his thunder?

Can't wait to hear the response on this one!

he was a 1st rd pick though and has all this tremendous skill that you keep pointing out to us

As was Harper, 12th overall to 21st overall - and Jones' number are better.

its 3 more tds Stash, its not some dramatically different number as you try to insinuate.

It is what it is, a better number. And last time I checked, the team who scored more wins.

and who is it the team cant wait to get rid of? So what, he had one flukey season...even the blind squirrel finds the nut occassionally

Your weak rebuttals are truly sad.

Maybe you should try digging up that post on Crayton again, that case went over well......

yep they can and I did, and have shown all the numbers...and anyone with any sort of sense also knows Harper was a vastly better player in dallas than Matt Jones has ever been, or will be in Jacksonville

Despite what those 'pesky numbers' say, right?

I dont think its speculation when 99.9% of the football world says the same thing I do

Sorry, but I don't see anybody lining up behind you.

mediocre numbers Stash...30 catches a yr for 13.8yds per catch in a pass happy league is mediocrity

Then both Harper and Crayton were less than mediocre during the same period of their careers.