WR Matt Jones getting close to being released?

[Stash]

maybe. but why would anyone want a player on their team who's head is elsewhere? if this is a consistant knock since college, and it's born truth in the nfl, he's pretty much done.

Even if it is true, the guys has produced at the NFL level.

Not to the level of where the Jaguars reached for him obviously, but he has produced.

He led the team in receiving in 2006 and scored 9 TD's over his first two seasons. I don't think that's too bad for a guy still learning receiver.

So if he was able to accomplish that while being the same guy he's always been, why couldn't he do it in Dallas?

A place with better coaches, better surrounding talent, and a better quarterback.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Pimping isn't easy.

Is it Stash?

 

[Stash]

Pimping isn't easy.

Is it Stash?

Just between you and me, it's really hard work sometimes......

:doh:

 

[DFWJC]

I don't care a to read long articles on Matt Jones. Likewise, I wouldn't really like to read any articles on any of the other bottom-feeding WRs for the Jags.

This is no pitch for Matt, but after TO I don't see much or any difference between the Jags WR and the 'Boys.

 

[Stash]

This is no pitch for Matt, but after TO I don't see much or any difference between the Jags WR and the 'Boys.

I think often times, fans overrate players because they happen to play for their favorite teams. And yes, I am as guilty as anybody of doing that.

For instance, some people are shocked that someone hasn't picked up Tyson Thompson yet.

 

[Velvet Jones]

It isn't that we are in love with any current receiver on the roster. It is that we don't see a difference in adding a Jax receiver to a team who's roster, minus TO, is that of Jax's.

You are adding peanut butter to peanut butter. Well, I prefer jelly! Wait... that means something else, doesn't it

 

[Stash]

It isn't that we are in love with any current receiver on the roster. It is that we don't see a difference in adding a Jax receiver to a team who's roster, minus TO, is that of Jax's.

Just curious, who would be your pick on the Cowboys' roster who would fill the role that Jones would as far as size/speed?

 

[Timbo2st]

A 90 year old with one arm could do a better job then Matt Jones.

 

[Stash]

A 90 year old with one arm could do a better job then Matt Jones.

This from the fan of a team who doesn't have any receivers?!?!?

How would you know what one looked like?

:eagles:

 

[Velvet Jones]

What I am against is the purchasing of Jones. I don't think we need to panic for what would be anywhere between our 5th to 3rd receiver.. I see TO playing and I do see Glenn playing one last year. At least I see it being 50/50. I see Crayton as the 3rd or moving to 2nd. I can see Stanback grabbing the next slot so it is him whom I think Jones would be in a battle with. If we grab him, great, but not worth a draft pick.

I don't think anyone... ok, well, too many people.. are saying that we will be worse with Jones. It is that I don't think we will be that much better off with him.. if any better at all.

 

[dbair1967]

Thanks for once again adding absolutely nothing relevant to the conversation.

:bravo:

your welcome

oh and Matt Jones is a scrub

David

 

[Stash]

What I am against is the purchasing of Jones. I don't think we need to panic for what would be anywhere between our 5th to 3rd receiver.. I see TO playing and I do see Glenn playing one last year. At least I see it being 50/50. I see Crayton as the 3rd or moving to 2nd. I can see Stanback grabbing the next slot so it is him whom I think Jones would be in a battle with. If we grab him, great, but not worth a draft pick.

Is a 6th round pick that valuable to you? Given the extra and comp picks this team will have next year?

And as I have stated before, I see nothing from Glenn this year and I wish the team would move on already.

I don't think anyone... ok, well, too many people.. are saying that we will be worse with Jones. It is that I don't think we will be that much better off with him.. if any better at all.

No, apparently many would rather 'hope' for a contribution from Glenn, or that Stanback and Austin will improve.

Personally, I think that's a bit too much 'hoping' at one position for a team with Super Bowl aspirations.

 

[dbair1967]

I think he'll get claimed by someone, there are too many receiver-starved teams in the league right now and his salaries of $625,000 and $565,000 are small potatoes.

except he isnt really a WR, cant get open, drops too many balls and wont work hard

I think he's destined for a 9-5 job sooner rather than later

David

 

[Stash]

except he isnt really a WR, cant get open, drops too many balls and wont work hard

I'll gladly debate your opinion with facts.

If you're up to it.

Unless you have to cut-and-run again?

 

[Velvet Jones]

Personally, I think that's a bit too much 'hoping' at one position for a team with Super Bowl aspirations.

So you are throwing in another hope that Jones truely does have the 'desire' to play the game even though there is little to say otherwise? Again, the issue isn't the man but rather that you seem to excuse him of the same things you use to crucify the others.

 

[Stash]

So you are throwing in another hope that Jones truely does have the 'desire' to play the game even though there is little to say otherwise? Again, the issue isn't the man but rather that you seem to excuse him of the same things you use to crucify the others.

Even if you throw in his supposedly 'questionable desire', the guy has shown that he can play at the NFL level.

He hasn't lived up to the hype of being a 1st round draft pick, but that's Jacksonville's fault, not his.

He was projected by the rest of the league as a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.

If he was drafted there, nobody would be criticizing him like they do.

He's not the next Randy Moss like some thought, but he's a more proven option than some of the 'unknowns' on Dallas' current roster.

 

[dbair1967]

Even if you throw in his supposedly 'questionable desire', the guy has shown that he can play at the NFL level.

but he cant play good enough apparently to even keep a spot on a team that really doesnt have much at WR

He hasn't lived up to the hype of being a 1st round draft pick, but that's Jacksonville's fault, not his.

honestly thats one of the more ridiculous statements ever I think...he's been given every opportunity there, and he's failed...and he's failed in most part due to 1) he just isnt very good and 2) he doesnt work hard

He was projected by the rest of the league as a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.

I recall most thinking he was going to be picked pretty early because of those workouts in shorts and t-shirts...Mike Mamula comes to mind here

If he was drafted there, nobody would be criticizing him like they do.

but they'd still be trying to replace him, because he isnt any good.

He's not the next Randy Moss like some thought, but he's a more proven option than some of the 'unknowns' on Dallas' current roster

anybody that thought he had 1/10 of the skill as Randy Moss is a bumbling fool...he never has, never will...and the only thing he's "proven" is that he isnt very good...that doesnt mean he is better than what we have here...

The guys we have on this roster are all more talented for the position than Jones is, and dont have the work ethic question marks...further, they all can play special teams...and Jones gives you nothing there...he wouldnt even make this team

David

 

[dbair1967]

I'll gladly debate your opinion with facts.

If you're up to it.

Unless you have to cut-and-run again?

what facts do you have to persent Stash? Jacksonville's coaching staff and front office thinks the guy sux...he's been given opportunity after opportunity there to prove himself and stay on the field, yet they've tried almost since he got there to replace him because its so obvious he cant play...his numbers scream of mediocre to poor talent and he has the work ethic questions

he doesnt get open downfield or beat man coverage...he never looks like he has speed or quickness on the football field and he drops alot of balls...anybody that watches him play says the same thing

David

 

[Stash]

but he cant play good enough apparently to even keep a spot on a team that really doesnt have much at WR

Williamson apparently couldn't either, but he seems to be doing well in Jacksonville. Why is it possible for others and not this guy?

honestly thats one of the more ridiculous statements ever I think...he's been given every opportunity there, and he's failed...and he's failed in most part due to 1) he just isnt very good and 2) he doesnt work hard

Every opportunity? Despite leading the team in receiving in 2006, he doesn't start in 2007. Why is that? Is that opportunity? The guy has started about 9 games in his time there. That doesn't scream opportunity to me.

I recall most thinking he was going to be picked pretty early because of those workouts in shorts and t-shirts...Mike Mamula comes to mind here

Show me those. I've got plenty of sources that say the Jaguars reached on him and that he was rated as a mid-round prospect. That's Jacksonville's fault.

but they'd still be trying to replace him, because he isnt any good.

Funny that nobody blames Jacksonville for any of this, despite the fact that their two latest 'answers' are coming from outside the organization. Never the Jags' fault that all of their receivers struggle......

Jones is clearly in the doughouse and on the outs in Jacksonville, that's not in dispute. He's not the guy they thought he was and not Del Rio's type of player. I'm not denying that.

anybody that thought he had 1/10 of the skill as Randy Moss is a bumbling fool...

That would be the Jaguars' front office (and Chris Mortensen!)

he never has, never will...and the only thing he's "proven" is that he isnt very good...that doesnt mean he is better than what we have here...


The guys we have on this roster are all more talented for the position than Jones is, and dont have the work ethic question marks...further, they all can play special teams...and Jones gives you nothing there...he wouldnt even make this team

Despite your opinion here, numbers show that he is better than what we have here. We have several receivers who either can't play or never have.

 

[Stash]

what facts do you have to persent Stash? Jacksonville's coaching staff and front office thinks the guy sux...he's been given opportunity after opportunity there to prove himself and stay on the field, yet they've tried almost since he got there to replace him because its so obvious he cant play...his numbers scream of mediocre to poor talent and he has the work ethic questions

What's your stance on Alvin Harper? Was he a bust? A Disappointment with lousy numbers who couldn't play?

You speak of 'every opportunity' and I see a guy who wasn't named a starter even after he led the team in receiving. Where's the opportunity there? Tell me your attitude wouldn't be affected after that.

I see a guy who was in the coach's doghouse and got deactivated for 4 games last year. You can pin it all on Jones, but the fact is that none of Jacksonville's receivers develop and that include guys who played the position for their entire career. But ignore that because it might exonerate Jones from all the blame.

he doesnt get open downfield or beat man coverage...he never looks like he has speed or quickness on the football field and he drops alot of balls...anybody that watches him play says the same thing

And yet somehow, miraculously, the guy has 101 catches and 13 TD's in 3 seasons of part-time play?

Conversely, 'your hero' Patrick Crayton has 120 catches in 4 seasons and 14 TD's?

Despite the fact that Jones has 5 career starts to Crayton's 20.