Yes our QB is a great leader, but what else?

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He’s not a great leader bc he doesn’t have the talent to back it up. He hasn’t lead this team anywhere nor does he elevate the play of those around him. He’s a great human but that doesn’t win super bowls.
 

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Romo took the risks....why do I say that you ask?

Because people like you call him some grand king choker. You dont; do that if you don;t try.

So I may have some double speak going, if you say so. BUT...so do you.
The QB is like your money manager. If his main qualification is "I take risks...!" you have a fool for a money manager and a client. A money manager HAS TO take risks, but being able to take one at the wrong times...?
He’s not a great leader bc he doesn’t have the talent to back it up. He hasn’t lead this team anywhere nor does he elevate the play of those around him. He’s a great human but that doesn’t win super bowls.
Is Brock Purdy a leader? Was Tom Brady the leader his first SB in NE? You can't lead unless people follow. Dak is a leader. People follow. He just doesn't take them to the promised land lol.
 

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The QB is like your money manager. If his main qualification is "I take risks...!" you have a fool for a money manager and a client. A money manager HAS TO take risks, but being able to take one at the wrong times...?

Is Brock Purdy a leader? Was Tom Brady the leader his first SB in NE? You can't lead unless people follow. Dak is a leader. People follow. He just doesn't take them to the promised land lol.
So when Crayton drops a pass...or Murray fumbles it...or Dez falls short....that was "just the wrong time to take a risk by Romo"?

I'm not saying Romo didn't blow it on occasion. Just not to the extent the haters say...ironically while many make excuses for Dak.


"Leads them to loss"...okay then....I can get on board with that. :)
 

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I'm anti-Dak. And yet, that doesn't mean I have over-index on criticism. Dak is PLENTY SMART. The notion that he didn't understand how to read defenses but went 13-2 as a rookie (won't count last game that didn't matter) is just preposterous.

Are you good at your job? How smart would you be if that suddenly asked you to do "more"? You'd see how quickly everyone who thought you were smart starts to question your intelligence. Dak is just asked to do MORE and he doesn't have the NFL arm and anticipation to do it. But he has a photographic memory and learned our entire offense AS A ROOKIE.

Anyone who knows football would not say EIGHT YEARS LATER ...."He can't read defenses...". People who do that have OTHER AGENDAS...

I mean, was Romo "dumb"? Or was he just asked to do more than his skillset allowed?
Bro he can't read defenses, time and again there are open receivers and he's not even looking that way. I don't know what's changed but something has, this guy is pure garbage at this point.
 

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But is he? last I checked he supposedly lost his teams trust.
 

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The QB is like your money manager. If his main qualification is "I take risks...!" you have a fool for a money manager and a client. A money manager HAS TO take risks, but being able to take one at the wrong times...?

Is Brock Purdy a leader? Was Tom Brady the leader his first SB in NE? You can't lead unless people follow. Dak is a leader. People follow. He just doesn't take them to the promised land lol.
This makes no sense. Dak isn’t a rookie. So the Brady comparison is absurd. Purdy is growing into the role but obviously as a second year player, he’s not there yet. Dak is playing his 8th season and hasn’t sniffed a Super Bowl. If he’s our team leader , that’s just sad.
 

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So when Crayton drops a pass...or Murray fumbles it...or Dez falls short....that was "just the wrong time to take a risk by Romo"?

I'm not saying Romo didn't blow it on occasion. Just not to the extent the haters say...ironically while many make excuses for Dak.


"Leads them to loss"...okay then....I can get on board with that. :)
I remember those heart-breaking moments, but they happen to all QBs. Mahomes was down by double-digits in 4 straight playoff games and won all of them. Tom Brady was down 28-3. Bad things happen, good QBs make sure they are not part of the problem.

"on occasion"? The man was known as "Tony Ohno", "Turnover Tony", Tony Uhoh" and the NFC East used to feast on him until the very end of his career. Dak DOMINATES the NFC East...and I'm no Dak fan. Dak has heartbreaking moments in the biggest of games. Romo? Any given Sunday...
 

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This makes no sense. Dak isn’t a rookie. So the Brady comparison is absurd. Purdy is growing into the role but obviously as a second year player, he’s not there yet. Dak is playing his 8th season and hasn’t sniffed a Super Bowl. If he’s our team leader , that’s just sad.
No the point is not comparing Dak to Brady, it's Purdy to Brady. Purdy nor Brady HAD TO LEAD on a stacked team where there was veteran leadership. We are all Cowboys fans and understood what happened in 2016: Dak not only took the job, he took the locker room over too. As much as Jerry wanted to give Romo that job, the locker room would have died had they given the job back to Romo. Same thing happened with Purdy and Trey Lance. The POINT - which goes over your head - is that winning does not equal leadership and losing does not equal lack of leadership.

Again - LEADERSHIP DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN THAT IT WORKS OUT FOR YOU. Perhaps that's why most people are NOT leaders and don't understand them...because leaders know and accept that things may not work out. Those who only are fit to be led are like delusional children who only see "leadership" when it all works out. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Purdy may GROW into a leader, but he is not the team leader and neither was Brady when he won his first SB. But yes, over time, he did develop into the leader of that team.
 

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Bro he can't read defenses, time and again there are open receivers and he's not even looking that way. I don't know what's changed but something has, this guy is pure garbage at this point.
Bruh: What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Bro.
 

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No the point is not comparing Dak to Brady, it's Purdy to Brady. Purdy nor Brady HAD TO LEAD on a stacked team where there was veteran leadership. We are all Cowboys fans and understood what happened in 2016: Dak not only took the job, he took the locker room over too. As much as Jerry wanted to give Romo that job, the locker room would have died had they given the job back to Romo. Same thing happened with Purdy and Trey Lance. The POINT - which goes over your head - is that winning does not equal leadership and losing does not equal lack of leadership.

Again - LEADERSHIP DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN THAT IT WORKS OUT FOR YOU. Perhaps that's why most people are NOT leaders and don't understand them...because leaders know and accept that things may not work out. Those who only are fit to be led are like delusional children who only see "leadership" when it all works out. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Purdy may GROW into a leader, but he is not the team leader and neither was Brady when he won his first SB. But yes, over time, he did develop into the leader of that team.
That’s a very interesting definition of a leader. I think what you have described is actually just someone who takes responsibility. Leadership isn’t just accepting responsibility. It’s also about inspiring others. I don’t see any evidence Dak is inspiring anyone. I don’t see any evidence based on their play that his teammates respect him as much as you think. Like I said, he’s a great human. That doesn’t make him a leader in a football locker room.
 

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That’s a very interesting definition of a leader. I think what you have described is actually just someone who takes responsibility. Leadership isn’t just accepting responsibility. It’s also about inspiring others. I don’t see any evidence Dak is inspiring anyone. I don’t see any evidence based on their play that his teammates respect him as much as you think. Like I said, he’s a great human. That doesn’t make him a leader in a football locker room.
He probably stopped inspiring many after he got his bag... was a leader of guys that were trying to make their way until he become the richest player that really hasn't earned it after. Has happened to a lot of guys I bet.
 

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To me, a great leader makes everyone around him better. I don't see that in Dak.
 

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That’s a very interesting definition of a leader. I think what you have described is actually just someone who takes responsibility. Leadership isn’t just accepting responsibility. It’s also about inspiring others. I don’t see any evidence Dak is inspiring anyone. I don’t see any evidence based on their play that his teammates respect him as much as you think. Like I said, he’s a great human. That doesn’t make him a leader in a football locker room.
Strawman. You mischaracterized my definition of leadership.

My definition of leadership was simply stated: "when others follow, you are a leader". You can be a great leader or a poor leader, but if people are following you are leading. Are you getting it yet? You are guilty of the very thing you tried to accuse me of: Giving someone the leadership monicker based on qualities/values/intangibles and not results,

Inspiring others - is an intangible that can't be measured and means nothing if others don't follow. I've been inspired by plenty of folks that I would not follow.

Dak has taken over entire teams and led them to division championships with average QB passing skills. He doesn't HAVE TO WIN THE SB to be considered a good or even great leader.

Hope this helps.
 
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