You are delusional if you think DL is a higher priority than S this year

[speedkilz88]

How old are you? Twelve? Here is a quick grammar lesson, so pay attention.

You are=you're

You're welcome.

I screw it up all the time when I'm typing too. I usually go back and edit after reading the error just to avoid guys giving me the business like a couple of you guys just did.

 

[Hoofbite]

DL is loaded with guys over thirty who they are counting on to stay healthy and productive. Not delusional at all.

Where as the S position is loaded with what?

If being young is pretty much the answer, draft some DL late or sign some UDFAs to fulfill that sort of need.

The guys on the DL have shown the ability to play well. Ware, Spencer and Hatcher last year were very good. If Ratliff can play well, it's a pretty decent front.

The team literally has next to nothing at the safety position. A guy with a couple of career starts coming off an achilles injury and that's about it.

As far as the OL goes, I'd say it is delusional to think that it's in better shape than the DL. I'm growing tired of the idea that a 30 year old guy can't cut it anymore and the team needs to address it based solely on age. That'd be a nice route to go if you didn't have any holes on your team but when you have significant holes ignoring them to replenish youth at an otherwise solid area is just misguided.

 

[RS12]

Where as the S position is loaded with what?

If being young is pretty much the answer, draft some DL late or sign some UDFAs to fulfill that sort of need.

The guys on the DL have shown the ability to play well. Ware, Spencer and Hatcher last year were very good. If Ratliff can play well, it's a pretty decent front.

The team literally has next to nothing at the safety position. A guy with a couple of career starts coming off an achilles injury and that's about it.

As far as the OL goes, I'd say it is delusional to think that it's in better shape than the DL. I'm growing tired of the idea that a 30 year old guy can't cut it anymore and the team needs to address it based solely on age. That'd be a nice route to go if you didn't have any holes on your team but when you have significant holes ignoring them to replenish youth at an otherwise solid area is just misguided.

The DL is the heart of this particular defense. If it isnt doing what is supposed to do consistently nothing else matters. When was the last time Ratliff and Ware got through a season healthy? It remains to be seen if Spencer is really even a fit. Hatcher has had injuries as well. Are safety and OL huge needs? No doubt. IMO the scheme change made DL a high priority and it easier to find an impact safety down the line in the draft than an impact DL.

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

No one cares about your gpa in high school and that you attend college. This is a Cowboys forum, not a forum about who's smarter and what college they want to. Not everyone is gonna agree with your opinion on here so you have to learn to accept that and discuss it rationally instead of getting offended and insulting people because they don't agree with you.

This is a cowboys forum but there's been more than a couple people criticize my grammar? Lol ok dude. Everyone is entitled to there option but as soon as i post mine i get blasted for it & criticized because i put "your" instead of "you're". Lol ok man.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Vacarro doesn't wrap-up, gets lost in zone and couldn't play man-man without getting tourched in college.


In the 1st and 2nd rounds dallas should take back to back Linemen (OL and OL 1st and 2nd or DL/OL 1st or 2nd)

Take a Saftey in round 3 or 4....or both.

This is where the draft value is.

 

[justbob]

Keep it on the thread and stop all the personal jabs at each other...Thank you

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Vacarro doesn't wrap-up, gets lost in zone and couldn't play man-man without getting tourched in college.


In the 1st and 2nd rounds dallas should take back to back Linemen (OL and OL 1st and 2nd or DL/OL 1st or 2nd)

Take a Saftey in round 3 or 4....or both.

This is where the draft value is.

Id be okay with taking back to back linemen only if we signed a vet safety in free agency. Last time we drafted a mid round safety was awunsu ansah & he really didn't pan out.. I dont think a mid rounder can start immediately. If they were to draft one 3rd round, id like to see them sign ronde barber so he learn while he's on the bench this year.

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Where as the S position is loaded with what?

If being young is pretty much the answer, draft some DL late or sign some UDFAs to fulfill that sort of need.

The guys on the DL have shown the ability to play well. Ware, Spencer and Hatcher last year were very good. If Ratliff can play well, it's a pretty decent front.

The team literally has next to nothing at the safety position. A guy with a couple of career starts coming off an achilles injury and that's about it.

As far as the OL goes, I'd say it is delusional to think that it's in better shape than the DL. I'm growing tired of the idea that a 30 year old guy can't cut it anymore and the team needs to address it based solely on age. That'd be a nice route to go if you didn't have any holes on your team but when you have significant holes ignoring them to replenish youth at an otherwise solid area is just misguided.

I agree with this completely

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Lol who said im pouting? & I never said we need to draft a safety. & you acting like we haven't spent money on linemen? Please. & if I were to count Claiborne last year, it would be 3 since 2004. That sound better? lmao THIS YEAR we need a safety more than a DT. Enough said. We have 2 starters at DT. We have 1 at safety. logically. Funny how you dont understand. Hey while we're at it we should draft another TE right? Because Witten has gotten old & was injured recently? Lmao I hope you know that was sarcasm

I want a DT. Yay, I'M DELUSIONAL!!!

 

[MartinRamone]

If the choice is between a Lotulelei, Richardson, or Floyd and Vacarro it may end up being one of those DTs because of talent value not necessarily because DT is thought to be a greater need.

Safety is a bigger need, but if any of those DL are available when we pick we better choose him, my favourite would be Lotulelei.

 

[RastaRocket]

Ever since Sensabaugh was released I believe that safety is the biggest need on the team. Now we have nobody we can truly rely on as everybody is stating; so safety is a must draft position. I feel we can have a solid draft this year because a lot of positions we need have depth in this draft. Just get the holes filled early on.

We should be able to get S/OL, S/DL, or OL/DL covered in the first two rounds.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I am willing to bet that once Romo signs his new deal, Ronde Barber will be signed the next hour.

 

[Hoofbite]

I am willing to bet that once Romo signs his new deal, Ronde Barber will be signed the next hour.

I'd gladly go for someone with experience in the system back there even though he's long in the tooth. His knowledge can make up for his diminished ability. I think it's doubtful a rookie would step in and have a flawless season. While the youth might allow him to make up for some mistakes, if he's not in the right position it's not going to matter.

At least Barber should be in the right position and could help direct some things back there.

 

[Langonelives]

All these people who are saying we should go D-line over safety & o-line in the draft are crazy. Your telling me a line consisting of Dware, Hatcher, Ratliff, & Spencer is in more need of a player than Saftey?, Where we have a decent player in Church coming off a bad injury, and Matt Johnson who is also coming off an injury & hasn't shown ANYTHING. I'm all for drafting d-line after we can get a guard & safety that can start.

OL>S>DL>LB>RB

You are correct; however, you talent level at 18 is heavy at DT and OL. We do not want to over draft a safety in the first when we can wait til the later rounds. As for OL, we will probably have a chance at Cooper or Warmack, but they are both guards and guards are not normally drafted in the first round.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I honestly don't understand why there would be a debate right now. Seems like every year for the last four years Dallas's big needs have included O-line and Safety. The last four year's drafts have produced Tyron Smith on O-line and Barry Church as for Safety. That leaves four questionable spots on O-line and one massive question mark at Safety.

There are no questions on who will start on D-line in 2012, even with a draft pick.

If Warren Sapp junior is there when Dallas picks, then of course they should pick him. But, if they all have similar grades, then for goodness sake please draft the starting caliber O-lineman or Safety. I'm tired of Dallas starting back-up quality players.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

DL is loaded with guys over thirty who they are counting on to stay healthy and productive. Not delusional at all.

This.

Ware and Ratliff are past their prime and Spencer is a question mark at end. Yes, they need young blood on the d-line.

If they draft Ronnie Lott II in the 1st round it will not make any difference without an impact player on the d-line.

 

[Doomsday101]

All these people who are saying we should go D-line over safety & o-line in the draft are crazy. Your telling me a line consisting of Dware, Hatcher, Ratliff, & Spencer is in more need of a player than Saftey?, Where we have a decent player in Church coming off a bad injury, and Matt Johnson who is also coming off an injury & hasn't shown ANYTHING. I'm all for drafting d-line after we can get a guard & safety that can start.

OL>S>DL>LB>RB

I'm all for gettng the BPA that fits any of those needs. I'm not going to pass on a top prospect DL player if he is rated higher than the other position you are talking about. When it comes to importance all position are important and people normally find that out when it is one of the weak links that shows up on Sunday.

 

[Picksix]

Again, the team can't be focused solely on what position they're drafting, but rather the player they're drafting. If they're on the clock, and the top player on their board is a DL, and they can't/don't trade out of it, they take the DL.

You just never know what's going to happen once they start playing. What if Rat gets hurt again? Or Ware? You want the best player you could get to be able to replace them. I understand we're on very thin ice with safety, so they need to address it. But there's no law that says they need to do in the first round, just for the sake of drafting one.

 

[jjktkk]

Again, the team can't be focused solely on what position they're drafting, but rather the player they're drafting. If they're on the clock, and the top player on their board is a DL, and they can't/don't trade out of it, they take the DL.

You just never know what's going to happen once they start playing. What if Rat gets hurt again? Or Ware? You want the best player you could get to be able to replace them. I understand we're on very thin ice with safety, so they need to address it. But there's no law that says they need to do in the first round, just for the sake of drafting one.

Its going to be really interesting for Jerry and co., just because there is a decent chance that a top rated OL, DL, and S on the Cowboy's board, could all be sitting there at 18.

 

[conner01]

i don't remember a sole advocating not doing something at safety. the question is who and where. i don't think vacarro is all that great a safety. so i don't think he should be rated higher than some of the guards and dline guys. seems silly to draft a safety who may be a good player but may not be better than what you can get in the second when there is no doubt the oline and dline guys in the first are better than what you can get in the 2nd. i think we sign a vet and draft a guy but i sure hope it's not at 18 because i don't think the player there is anything special.