You Call the Play!

[Alexander]

Jevon Kearse (DE)
Darren Howard (DE)

Trent Cole (DT)
Ed Jasper (DT)

What's your play?

Well, for starters, I run right at Trent Cole at defensive tackle for one.

That's like us saying DeMarcus Ware at DT, what are you going to call?

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Well, for starters, I run right at Trent Cole at defensive tackle for one.

That's like us saying DeMarcus Ware at DT, what are you going to call?

Hahahaha! You do that. You must not have seen Cole play last year. BTW, Trent Cole has 2 years experience in the NFL! In all fairness, you may have been talking about Nick Cole!

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Phoenix, you gave us a hypothtical without enough info, at least for me, someone who actually coaches the game and makes these decisions...

Alright coach that's a fair request. Here's more details ...

In responses to the opponent team kicking their second field goal, your team has just returned the opponent team's kickoff -- a high spiral kick aided by a tail wind; the ball is caught on the 2 yard-line, and returned to your teams' 40 yard-line (normally that could be defined as good field position -- but the clock only show 1 - minute; and 57
seconds in official playing time). Your Center breaks out of the huddle with the rest of your offensive squad close behind -- they head straight for the line of scrimmage —

Bledsoe (wiping the sweat off of his forehead, takes a quick swig of Gator Aid as he goes into the huddle. Bill Parcells (wearing some stylish shoes from Thom McAnn, points his finger into Bledsoe's nose and tells him to go out there and put some points on the board) ....alright coach -- call the play.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Two minutes is a great deal of time, even if there are no timeouts left.

I was at the Dallas-Philly game in Philly last year and I can't think of a drive that better fits your scenario than the one the Cowboys put together to pull within 6 in the fourth quarter last year.

Jimmy Johnson's defense has always been very aggressive and is susceptible to plays that beat the blitz. I might start the drive with a screen pass to Julius Jones, mix in a draw play, and really bait the Eagles to blitz so that I can get either TO or Glenn one on one with Sheppard (who is vastly overrated).

Glenn torched Sheppard everytime they were one on one in both games last year, so assuming TO can draw some coverages over to his side, I look for iso Glenn on Sheppard and go over the top to win the game.

Whoa ...TheSkaven! Not so fast. The screen pass to JJ; took you a few extra yards closer because it may have caught a blitzing Eagles off guard on the 1st down ...let's give you a first and ten on the Eagles' 45-yard line...JJ picks up 15 Yards on the screen.

First down and 10, you indeed pull a draw play toward the sidelines -- a pickup of 5-yards and you stopped the clock right at 50-seconds (that previous screen play took a lot of time off the clock); JJ makes it out of bounds this time ...the ball is dead at the opponent team's 40-yard line.

Second down and 5 to move the chains; the Eagles will not be fooled by another screen, or a draw play ...Jimmy Johnson is calling for defense against the pass. The Eagles know that Bledsoe's targets are TG and TO, that's why he's placed some double coverage on Lito Sheppard's man; but Brian Dawkins is lurking in wait. Bledsoe does a quik count over the top to Jason Witten, but the "Dawk" comes out of nowhere to bat it down and almost gets the pick!

Now you can make the call for third and 5; 40 seconds remaining...

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

What kind of coverage in the secondary? The Cowboys are in a 2-TE, 2-WR set and I'm assuming Dawkins is rolled to TO's side with Sheldon Brown.

Witten's probably going to be singled with the strong safety, a LB will be on Fasano and Terry Glenn will have man-to-man by Lito Sheppard. I'll take any of these three matchups, oh wait, that's not really situation specific, that's ALL SEASON.

Actually, you're really close with your matchups ...so I won't change anything.

In the end, TO probably beats the double team for 60 yard TD on a post route

You've got to be joking if you think Jimmy Jones Isn't preparing something special to counter a TO threat. I'll have to check you on your bottom line play ...TO will may get His yards in, but he'll never burn an Eagles defense in 2006! The fans would bring out the Guillotine on Andy Reid if that happened.

Try again...perhaps with TG.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Two Tight End set! Split Owens and Glenn wide.

No One is challenging the 2-TE set (the Eagles are carrying that also in 2006). Jim Johnson is certainly no rookie and the Eagles have been familiar with TOs style of WR for more than a year now. So I don't think TO will surprise the Eagles defense.

With this we can do anything we want!

That's the type of overconfidence that puts goose-eggs on the boards (the Eagles know about goose-eggs). I smell an upset brewing somewhere.

Draw play to J.J. will be a thing of beauty next season with this formation

Sure, IF ...and that's a big if ...JJ is on, we could have problems as a result of over-blitzing, etc. But even Bill Parcells is having second thoughts about JJ. Your offensive scheme could lose this hypothetical game scenario.

 

[Alexander]

Hahahaha! You do that. You must not have seen Cole play last year. BTW, Trent Cole has 2 years experience in the NFL! In all fairness, you may have been talking about Nick Cole!

I saw Cole play often last year. Good looking end. Not a tackle.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

All day, the pass has been setting up the run, reverse play action, and Bledsoe has been chunking it safely down field like some wco accountant. You've set up both the long pass and long run.

Your pass ..run; reverse Play action is questionable here. Eagles have acquired two pass-rushers to persue and sack Bledsoe with extreme predjudice. And, as I've told another poster, Jimmy Jones most definitely has something special (in the line of double coverage ...) waiting for Terrel Owens.

For those reasons, I cannot buy the pass/run, reverse play scenario.

 

[Future]

The annexation of Puerto Rico......it works every time

haha but what about the three little pigs???

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I like Glenn, Owens, Witten, Fasano, Barber Flea Flicker. The D will be waiting of the pass when they see Barber but when bledsoe hands him the ball the D will bite thinking We where trying to throw them off then Barber pitches back to Drew who hits I'll say Glenn deep for a TD reason is no CB in his right mind will leave Owens uncovered...

Actually, you came closest to fitting the intent of this thread (although, it was supposed to be unique to your team. Representative of the Skins, Cowboys, or Eagles versus any of the other NFCE teams).

But that's alright ...I Hope you're right! If Bill Parcells decides to do a trick play with 1-minute and 57-seconds worht of time remaining in the game, he has bigger cojones than I thought. Slightly agree ...the defense may not be fully prepared to defend against such a flea-flicker. But there are flea-flikers runs and flea-flicker pass options.

Flea-flicker pass: Wouldn't run it, don't think Bill Parcells will either (at least not with time running Out on the clock). Besides, like you said, the defense will already be in pass defense mode.

Flea-flicker run: Takes too much time off the clock and is vulnerable to turnovers.

Try again.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

vs. Eagles ...I purposedly turn the ball over to allow McNabb to throw an INT to Roy who runs for a TD to win the game.

I think it's at this juncture that I should inform you that you're going to be facing a whole different Eagles team in 2006!

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Sorry if this is an ignorant question.

But... Who in the hell is Jimmy Jones ?

Is that the cat from Guyana ? The kool-aid guy ?

I always thought the Eagles employed a man named Jim Johnson. Called Jim as not to be confused with Jimmy.

 

[Alexander]

Sorry if this is an ignorant question.

But... Who in the hell is Jimmy Jones ?

Is that the cat from Guyana ? The kool-aid guy ?

I always thought the Eagles employed a man named Jim Johnson. Called Jim as not to be confused with Jimmy.

Don't confuse Phoenix-Talon with facts about his own team, like the name of the defensive coordinator or the fact that Trent Cole plays defensive end.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

The first would be a quick-hitting draw play, then a crossing pattern to Glenn.

Good call, that will get you about 15 yards. But the extra yardage after the catch cost you ...you now have 1-minute and 5-seconds remaining.

(the scoreboard is onl for effect)

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Whoever Lito's checking... that's who we throw to.

That's a very "simple" plan -- especially during a blitz.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I always thought the Eagles employed a man named Jim Johnson. Called Jim as not to be confused with Jimmy.

Same Guy I'm talking about! I made a mistake typing before thinking error. I admit it. But the concept is solid; Jim Johnson will have some defensive strategies available.

Caveat: I promised to respond to all posters yesterday. Here I am back at the Job, making some quick responses, while a ton of work awaits me. I guess I shouldn't try to juggle these responses with work ...that's not fun and I'm making some mental errors. You shouldn't have to tell me about my own defensive coordinator -- I'll tighten up. But that also means I'll be looking at your posts harder also. Nothing to fear, your posts are always "iron-clad."

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Don't confuse Phoenix-Talon with facts about his own team, like the name of the defensive coordinator or the fact that Trent Cole plays defensive end.

You're a funny guy...no I mean it, you're funny! I won't hold it against you if you don't know the difference between Jevon Kearse (DE - Eagles) and
Javon Kearse (unknown person); perhaps you meant Javon Walker.

See your response depicted below on another issue ...same concept.


Quote:
Originally Posted by JIGGYFLY
Ellis has one more payday coming in the NFL and he wants to maximize that payday being an undersized DE in the 3/4 does not allow him to that, its like asking TO to be a WR in the wishbone how do you think he would feel about that.

Ellis is underpaid look no further than Kearse and the DE in Seattle, if I was in his position I would feel the same asked to be a part time player going into your last free agent contract, you people are hypocrites of the highest order.


Quote from: Alexander ..."Ellis on the market wouldn't get a Javon Kearse or especially Grant Wistrom-type contract unless the team was pretty ignorant."

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Same Guy I'm talking about! I made a mistake typing before thinking error. I admit it. But the concept is solid; Jim Johnson will have some defensive strategies available.

Caveat: I promised to respond to all posters yesterday. Here I am back at the Job, making some quick responses, while a ton of work awaits me. I guess I shouldn't try to juggle these responses with work ...that's not fun and I'm making some mental errors. You shouldn't have to tell me about my own defensive coordinator -- I'll tighten up. But that also means I'll be looking at your posts harder also. Nothing to fear, your posts are always "iron-clad."

ha-ha. Fair enough. I am just giving you a hard time.

As far as your original post, I cant foresee a time this upcoming season that the Eagles will be ahead in the waining minutes vs. the Cowboys or Commanders.

Cowboys should attack the LBs with short crossing routes, or a TE, RB coming into that area.

Commanders should run a bootleg and have Brunell run for a TD untouched (ala Vick). :laugh2:

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

ha-ha. Fair enough. I am just giving you a hard time.

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As far as your original post, I cant foresee a time this upcoming season that the Eagles will be ahead in the waining minutes vs. the Cowboys or Commanders.

I'll hold you to that assessment SaT!

 

[Alexander]

You're a funny guy...no I mean it, you're funny! I won't hold it against you if you don't know the difference between Jevon Kearse (DE - Eagles) and
Javon Kearse (unknown person); perhaps you meant Javon Walker.

See your response depicted below on another issue ...same concept.


Quote:
Originally Posted by JIGGYFLY
Ellis has one more payday coming in the NFL and he wants to maximize that payday being an undersized DE in the 3/4 does not allow him to that, its like asking TO to be a WR in the wishbone how do you think he would feel about that.

Ellis is underpaid look no further than Kearse and the DE in Seattle, if I was in his position I would feel the same asked to be a part time player going into your last free agent contract, you people are hypocrites of the highest order.


Quote from: Alexander ..."Ellis on the market wouldn't get a Javon Kearse or especially Grant Wistrom-type contract unless the team was pretty ignorant."

Cute.

Missing a letter isn't nearly the same as mistaking an entire last name or the position a player plays though is it?