You can't blame Eberflus

[kramskoi]

My problem with him is he is not aggressive with what has to work with, We could of did what flores did all game which was bring pressure. You need to bring pressure when you don't have the players on the back end. You can't sit back and play bend and break defense cause it breaks every damn time! You send pressure so you can create havoc!!!!

Yeah. The Vikings game is the one that should get him canned. Inexcusable, pusillanimous behavior.

 

[kramskoi]

Has nothing to do w/ being soft, it has everything to do w/ lacking talent.

I think it's more talented than we are being led to believe by some. If it's not then bringing in someone new won't really change anything. Look at the turnaround in one year from Mike Nolan to Dan Quinn. It wasn't a wholesale infusion of new talent. It was a coordinator who was simply better at getting the most from the "players". NOT the "scheme".

 

[kramskoi]

You look at the drop off since Quinn left and how they looked before he got here and I absolutely blame Eberflus. And before anyone says the defense was soft when Quinn was here, they were simply undersized. So they could get pushed around at times. They always played hard within the scheme.

They could get bullied at times but they led the league in turnovers for two consecutive years, with a defensive passer rating between 2nd and 9th. Not dead last. The pressures and sacks were also high under Quinn.

 

[kramskoi]

Well it's fair to say Jerry gets all the blame because he doesn't have to ask anybody's permission to sign or fire anybody within this organization. However, he doesn't design the defense. He doesn't make the defensive calls. He doesn't tell himself what players he needs, so the only way that ever flews shouldn't be fired. He should have been fired at the bye week as if ever fuse went to Jerry and said I need XYZ players and Jerry refused to get it for him. That's the only reason Jerry should not have fired eberflus at this point. If everfluous is over there telling Jerry anything other than he needs a middle linebacker he should be fired. They went out and got Logan and then now they won't play him but 45% of the time even though the other 45% of the time 50% of the time they're playing a guy who's completely lost. The entire defense started the season completely lost. Nobody knew the play calls. Nobody knew how to line up that falls on The defensive coordinator and his staff. If his staff is not living up to snuff, they should be fired. But he is ultimately responsible for what the staff does and he is not getting the job done. The communication got better but it still is not very good

The reason why Murray persists is because he is your best coverage linebacker. He was covering Devonta Smith vs. the Eagles. And the linebacker gap exchange stunts are Eberflus. When they don't work you can't blame a player for playing the gap as it was drawn up. That's why it LOOKS like Murray isn't in the correct position when he actually is...as Eberflus drew it up.

 

[kramskoi]

I disagree.
Take Micah out of the equation right before the season begins and it took away the star player in a defense that couldn't defend the run before that.
The Cowboys lost their only true playmaker on defense, and they weren't that good to begin with.
The run defense has been pathetic for years, but putting g pressure on opposing quarterbacks helped them hold the line.
Imagine, if you will, a defense with Quinnen Williams, a healthy Trevon Diggs, and Micah Parsons at the same time.
Eberflus never had that.

You don't get to have that if Parsons is retained. The 40 mil/yr you SAVED allowed you to do the trades and acquisitions that improved the interior d-line and have TWO first round picks to boot. Parsons never really made a huge difference at Edge in the run game. When he was placed at linebacker he could be a difference maker but Quinn saw pressure as superior to run-stopping. In many ways his calculation was sound...until it wasn't.

 

[kramskoi]

Regardless of any of that...there is no excusing his lazy, vanilla scheme. There is no complexity to this defense. It's 90% rush four and play zone. That MAY have worked better with Parsons being able to generate fast pressure on the QB consistently, but to continue, week in and week out trotting out the same bland, lazy bs scheme regardless of past failure was/is absolute negligence on his part.
He needs to go..6 weeks ago, and actually, never should have been hired. He was a lazy, comfort hire, just like BS.

Low on disguise. Low on blitzing.

 

[CWR]

J.J. Mc HoFer faced just a 22% pressure rate...one of the lowest of the season. Prescott? 51.2%. Most since the 2022 season.

To defend Eberflus at this point is dubious and laughable.

Wow, and all they had to do was get to him a few times early. He would've crumbled. Coward coach.

 

[DuncanIso]

I kinda blame Eber.

I tried to warn fans about that jacked up scheme he runs.

 

[JonesBoys]

You can't just make that the catch all and hold nobody accountable for their part.

Why not? Jerrah and Stephen don’t have to worry about accountability.

 

[kskboys]

I think it's more talented than we are being led to believe by some. If it's not then bringing in someone new won't really change anything. Look at the turnaround in one year from Mike Nolan to Dan Quinn. It wasn't a wholesale infusion of new talent. It was a coordinator who was simply better at getting the most from the "players". NOT the "scheme".

Really?

Murray: Bad player, and has been for 5 years
Sanborn: Career backup w/ limited athleticism. Not a starter.
Liafu/James: 1st/2nd year mid round draft picks, not ready to start. If ever.
Bland: Bad cover corner and always has been.
Diggs: Another bad cover corner, gave up the most yards in the NFL the year he had 11 picks.
Wilson/Hooker/Bell: All box Ss. Not a cover S in the bunch.
Mazi: Not an NFL starter
Osa: Decent rotational player forced to start.
EZ: Rook w/ talent, needs a year to get acclimated.

So, to start the season we had zero starting LBs, zero starting FSs, CBs who can't cover, no starting quality DTs, and only Clowney ready to play at DE. But, it's more talented thatn we are being led to believe?

Exactly where is this talent that you are espousing? It's better since Overshown came back and we traded for Kelly/QWilliams, absolutely, but we still have a severe lack of talent. Once again, explain to me how our talent on D is better than "you are being led to believe":

 

[kskboys]

The reason why Murray persists is because he is your best coverage linebacker. He was covering Devonta Smith vs. the Eagles. And the linebacker gap exchange stunts are Eberflus. When they don't work you can't blame a player for playing the gap as it was drawn up. That's why it LOOKS like Murray isn't in the correct position when he actually is...as Eberflus drew it up.

Dude. Murray has been in the league since 2020. Want to know what the line on him is? He is never in the correct position. This is a known thing. Zero instincts. Man, you are reaching hard just to scapegoat Eber. Did he abuse your kids?

 

[kskboys]

They could get bullied at times but they led the league in turnovers for two consecutive years, with a defensive passer rating between 2nd and 9th. Not dead last. The pressures and sacks were also high under Quinn.

W/ Parsons and Lewis and Gholston and Kendricks, sure. I mean, did you check on who we released before typing that?

 

[kramskoi]

Dude. Murray has been in the league since 2020. Want to know what the line on him is? He is never in the correct position. This is a known thing. Zero instincts. Man, you are reaching hard just to scapegoat Eber. Did he abuse your kids?

And don't scapegoat Murray on hearsay. Watch game film sir. That would be my advice to you. You don't know what he's being asked to do in Eberflus' defense. I've seen the film breakdown. I don't hear you saying anything about how Osa got repeatedly washed down the LOS in the Detroit game. The Lions took full advantage of him and Solomon Thomas when they spelled Williams and Clark. No...it seems that the three men to kick around of late are Murray, Diggs and now Pickens. Cowboys fans are bad for this nonsense, when nearly all of them don't have a clue because they aren't breaking down film. The linebacker gap exchanges that Eberflus has this team running are HIS design. Linebacker goes where DC tells him. Mind your gap and trust your friends to mind theirs. When that breaks down then all hell breaks loose.

I will relent that Murray is an average linebacker. Better in coverage than he is versus the run, but...this is the point. Eberflus spent YEARS as a linebacker coach (seven seasons in Dallas alone). You are not going to make me believe that Murray is so bad that the "linebacker whisperer" can't do ANYTHING with him. That's his job. Moreover, Schottenheimer already spoke about how the "perceptions" of his play don't line up with his actual play.

Eberflus showed how out of touch he is with that Vikings game. His defense is LAST in the league in defensive passer rating. Nearly every metric is 29th or worse. His defense is actually worse than the one Mike Nolan got fired for. To bring him back next year would be a fireable offense. They shouldn't make the same mistake they made with Kellen Moore. I have little faith they won't repeat said mistake.

 

[Shane612]

Is it the coaching or the players…???
It’s the old “chicken and egg” thing.

Maybe 50/50.

 

[kramskoi]

Really?

Murray: Bad player, and has been for 5 years
Sanborn: Career backup w/ limited athleticism. Not a starter.
Liafu/James: 1st/2nd year mid round draft picks, not ready to start. If ever.
Bland: Bad cover corner and always has been.
Diggs: Another bad cover corner, gave up the most yards in the NFL the year he had 11 picks.
Wilson/Hooker/Bell: All box Ss. Not a cover S in the bunch.
Mazi: Not an NFL starter
Osa: Decent rotational player forced to start.
EZ: Rook w/ talent, needs a year to get acclimated.

So, to start the season we had zero starting LBs, zero starting FSs, CBs who can't cover, no starting quality DTs, and only Clowney ready to play at DE. But, it's more talented thatn we are being led to believe?

Exactly where is this talent that you are espousing? It's better since Overshown came back and we traded for Kelly/QWilliams, absolutely, but we still have a severe lack of talent. Once again, explain to me how our talent on D is better than "you are being led to believe":

Right Mr. Master Talent Evaluator. Why haven't you supplanted Will McClay? Since you have it all figured out. You are not going to have pro-bowlers at every position. Some JAGS are going to have to be part of the deal. And if it's really that bad then you might want to consider not watching next year because two first rounders are not going to plug all the putative holes you spelled out.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

This crap again? I'll ask the question you people keep dodging. Who are the 49ers players on defense to where they play light years better than us? I can't wait for you to tell me about how great their defensive roster is.

No. They have a real coordinator that actually knows what he's doing.

Yes Eberflus needs to go. I 1000% agree with that however when are we (as a fanbase) going to admit our players aren't that good either... They really aren't. But that starts at the top from the GM to the Waterboy Coach....

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

Really?

Murray: Bad player, and has been for 5 years
Sanborn: Career backup w/ limited athleticism. Not a starter.
Liafu/James: 1st/2nd year mid round draft picks, not ready to start. If ever.
Bland: Bad cover corner and always has been.
Diggs: Another bad cover corner, gave up the most yards in the NFL the year he had 11 picks.
Wilson/Hooker/Bell: All box Ss. Not a cover S in the bunch.
Mazi: Not an NFL starter
Osa: Decent rotational player forced to start.
EZ: Rook w/ talent, needs a year to get acclimated.

So, to start the season we had zero starting LBs, zero starting FSs, CBs who can't cover, no starting quality DTs, and only Clowney ready to play at DE. But, it's more talented thatn we are being led to believe?

Exactly where is this talent that you are espousing? It's better since Overshown came back and we traded for Kelly/QWilliams, absolutely, but we still have a severe lack of talent. Once again, explain to me how our talent on D is better than "you are being led to believe":

Well said KSK

 

[stilltheguru]

Yes Eberflus needs to go. I 1000% agree with that however when are we (as a fanbase) going to admit our players aren't that good either... They really aren't. But that starts at the top from the GM to the Waterboy Coach....

That didn't answer. Who are the great niner defenders?

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

That didn't answer. Who are the great niner defenders?

It don't matter.... You're right they have an actual DC who gets things out of crappy players... We don't... Both team's players are crappy... Does that answer your question?

 

[stilltheguru]

It don't matter.... You're right they have an actual DC who gets things out of crappy players... We don't... Both team's players are crappy... Does that answer your question?

Yes. I'd say nfl is 60 percent coaching 40 players. Maybe even moreso leaning towards coaches. All of a sudden the chargers look like a legit team with pretty much the same players from 2023. We know why that is sir