You guys do realize I think we are going to suck this year right?

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No, not 3 or 4 win suckitude, but I see about 7 or 8 wins TOPS. Too many holes in secondary and at linebacker and oline is thin too. BUT I've followed this team for 35 years and will root like hell for them regardless.

But after reading that Haley article, it's obvious most of this team doesn't get it....at all. It's gonna take Red a couple seasons to 'change the culture'. It doesn't happen over night, because alot of contracts don't allow for it: see T.Newman, Jenkins, etc.... So.....get ready because the games will be close this season but I don't see 9 wins or the playoffs at this time.:banghead:
 
newlander;4065473 said:
No, not 3 or 4 win suckitude, but I see about 7 or 8 wins TOPS. Too many holes in secondary and at linebacker and oline is thin too. BUT I've followed this team for 35 years and will root like hell for them regardless.

But after reading that Haley article, it's obvious most of this team doesn't get it....at all. It's gonna take Red a couple seasons to 'change the culture'. It doesn't happen over night, because alot of contracts don't allow for it: see T.Newman, Jenkins, etc.... So.....get ready because the games will be close this season but I don't see 9 wins or the playoffs at this time.:banghead:
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I'm not expecting a championship run but I expect them to compete every week and build something for the future. Making the playoffs would just be gravy for me.
 
Ok, I'll bite. I don't see us sucking but I predicted 9 wins. I think Ryan will have problems this year with his D. I don't think our current CBs can do the job and that includes health issues.
 
unfortunately, i agree. i think 8 wins is about right with a chance at 9 if some things fall our way. this team is just lacking...for those that don't see...we'll you just don't see it.
 
So who gets to begin being defensive w/ this thread? I don't recall who placed the "why you so defensive" thread up in the OT forum, but THIS is why users here get defensive. Now you know. :p:


Lovely topic aint it? Certainly something worth a 10 pager? No? Maybe?


We will be watching
 
tomson75;4065497 said:
...and people wonder why they get hammered on this forum.
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It's certianly entertaining enough to click refresh ever hour or two, if only to see the OP get that beat down we all know is coming. :p:


But I don't think we suck half as much as the OP is hoping we do.
 
jumanji;4065487 said:
unfortunately, i agree. i think 8 wins is about right with a chance at 9 if some things fall our way. this team is just lacking...for those that don't see...we'll you just don't see it.
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I don't see how it's so obvious to see that this is an 8 or 9 win team, but that the team absolutely cannot surprise you and win 1 or 2 more games than you predict and actually make the playoffs.

Can you tell me why you're so certain we can't win an extra game or two, and why anyone who thinks that we can "just doesn't see it?"
 
newlander;4065473 said:
No, not 3 or 4 win suckitude, but I see about 7 or 8 wins TOPS. Too many holes in secondary and at linebacker and oline is thin too. BUT I've followed this team for 35 years and will root like hell for them regardless.

But after reading that Haley article, it's obvious most of this team doesn't get it....at all. It's gonna take Red a couple seasons to 'change the culture'. It doesn't happen over night, because alot of contracts don't allow for it: see T.Newman, Jenkins, etc.... So.....get ready because the games will be close this season but I don't see 9 wins or the playoffs at this time.:banghead:
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what Haley article (link)?
 
I'd be more surprised at 9-7 than 11-5...this offense is going to be awesome barring injuries.
 
newlander;4065473 said:
No, not 3 or 4 win suckitude, but I see about 7 or 8 wins TOPS. Too many holes in secondary and at linebacker and oline is thin too. BUT I've followed this team for 35 years and will root like hell for them regardless.

But after reading that Haley article, it's obvious most of this team doesn't get it....at all. It's gonna take Red a couple seasons to 'change the culture'. It doesn't happen over night, because alot of contracts don't allow for it: see T.Newman, Jenkins, etc.... So.....get ready because the games will be close this season but I don't see 9 wins or the playoffs at this time.:banghead:
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What I do realize is that today is August 24th and the opener as I recall is scheduled for September 11th. In between is 2 more preseason games, several weeks of preparation as well as many more opportunities to improve our roster via courtesy of the NFL and league wide cut down dates.

I also realize we have a young coach in the process of changing not only the culture of a team as you stated but implementing a new philosophy. At the same time I have full confidence in Garrett, Ryan, Jones and the rest of the staff and front office at Valley Ranch that they will do what needs to be done to have this team ready opening day mentally and physically as well as have the pieces in place that they feel they need to get it done.

I'm positive on August 24th of 2010 Kansas City Chiefs fans every where were looking ahead to the 2011 draft while at the same time I remember Vikings contemplation Super Bowl festivities.

I'm also not getting that same vibe you speak of from the players. I actually have found it to be the opposite of not only what you described but opposite of what we have seen the past few years. I think Bradie James drove home the point when he said, “Our alumni, our former greats have made us America’s Team and we reap benefits that we haven’t earned — all the way around, as individuals, as a team. Those guys earned it. We just think we deserve it.” To me it's obvious the players finally understand.

I'm not calling for a 16-0 or a 0-16 but what I do know is the Cowboys will show up and play all 16 games for 60 minutes under Garrett unlike we have seen in the past couple years and I do believe unlike last year, we wont be sitting waiting to see who wins to eliminate us from the playoffs and rushing to update the draft order.

The Boys will be in a position to control their own fate down the stretch and I have faith Garrett by that time will have this team fully understanding what it means to make their own destiny and have to as Bradie said "earned it".
 
newlander;4065473 said:
No, not 3 or 4 win suckitude, but I see about 7 or 8 wins TOPS. Too many holes in secondary and at linebacker and oline is thin too. BUT I've followed this team for 35 years and will root like hell for them regardless.

But after reading that Haley article, it's obvious most of this team doesn't get it....at all. It's gonna take Red a couple seasons to 'change the culture'. It doesn't happen over night, because alot of contracts don't allow for it: see T.Newman, Jenkins, etc.... So.....get ready because the games will be close this season but I don't see 9 wins or the playoffs at this time.:banghead:
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You do realize you're full of crap on this right?
 
SDogo;4065513 said:
What I do realize is that today is August 24th and the opener as I recall is scheduled for September 11th. In between is 2 more preseason games, several weeks of preparation as well as many more opportunities to improve our roster via courtesy of the NFL and league wide cut down dates.

I also realize we have a young coach in the process of changing not only the culture of a team as you stated but implementing a new philosophy. At the same time I have full confidence in Garrett, Ryan, Jones and the rest of the staff and front office at Valley Ranch that they will do what needs to be done to have this team ready opening day mentally and physically as well as have the pieces in place that they feel they need to get it done.

I'm positive on August 24th of 2010 Kansas City Chiefs fans every where were looking ahead to the 2011 draft while at the same time I remember Vikings contemplation Super Bowl festivities.

I'm also not getting that same vibe you speak of from the players. I actually have found it to be the opposite of not only what you described but opposite of what we have seen the past few years. I think Bradie James drove home the point when he said, “Our alumni, our former greats have made us America’s Team and we reap benefits that we haven’t earned — all the way around, as individuals, as a team. Those guys earned it. We just think we deserve it.” To me it's obvious the players finally understand.

I'm not calling for a 16-0 or a 0-16 but what I do know is the Cowboys will show up and play all 16 games for 60 minutes under Garrett unlike we have seen in the past couple years and I do believe unlike last year, we wont be sitting waiting to see who wins to eliminate us from the playoffs and rushing to update the draft order.

The Boys will be in a position to control their own fate down the stretch and I have faith Garrett by that time will have this team fully understanding what it means to make their own destiny and have to as Bradie said "earned it".
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Good to see you back. You kept your word. I knew you would.
 
newlander;4065473 said:
No, not 3 or 4 win suckitude, but I see about 7 or 8 wins TOPS. Too many holes in secondary and at linebacker and oline is thin too. BUT I've followed this team for 35 years and will root like hell for them regardless.

But after reading that Haley article, it's obvious most of this team doesn't get it....at all. It's gonna take Red a couple seasons to 'change the culture'. It doesn't happen over night, because alot of contracts don't allow for it: see T.Newman, Jenkins, etc.... So.....get ready because the games will be close this season but I don't see 9 wins or the playoffs at this time.:banghead:
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I guess it depends on what your definition of suck is. I have predicted an 8-8 season based on our secondary and offensive line having issues. So I guess if 8 wins is sucking, then we probably will suck this year.

Even if this does happen, an 8-8 season will still be a 2 game improvement over last season. So it comes down to if you are a glass half empty or a glass half full type of person.
 
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