You know what's funny?

[5Stars]

What's funny is people arguing that everyone should be happy with Parcells due to "continuity".

The logical extension of that should have everyone pining for year 8 of the Campo era.

Now, now, now...Stanley, that is just plain stupid!

What are the track records overall of both coaches?

A question for you, Mr. Spadowski...if you owned a brand new team, and the NFL told you that you had to either hire Campo or Parcells, who would you hire?

:laugh2:

 

[zeromaster]

I agree with that. The only sign of success for a team and a coach is getting to the playoffs. Once you get there anything can happen -- good or bad. It takes a little luck to get to the SB and win it. Some coaches, like Bellicheck, have had a little luck in the playoffs, and some coaches, like Schottenheimer, haven't.

I agree with the "little luck" part, but mostly it sounds like the "flip a switch" theory. I tend to believe that if you get to the playoffs and you have any real weaknesses, they get exposed. Unfortunately we fell victim to some of that in Seattle.

After three SB wins, I doubt that Bellichick is still considered lucky.

 

[theogt]

I agree with the "little luck" part, but mostly it sounds like the "flip a switch" theory. I tend to believe that if you get to the playoffs and you have any real weaknesses, they get exposed. Unfortunately we fell victim to some of that in Seattle.

After three SB wins, I doubt that Bellichick is still considered lucky.

Interestingly, in Seattle it was our strength that faltered (offense) and our weakness that kept us in the game (defense).

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What's funny is people arguing that everyone should be happy with Parcells due to "continuity".

The logical extension of that should have everyone pining for year 8 of the Campo era.

exactly what system did Campo set up here?

oh yes, the one where everyone took it easy

 

[zeromaster]

You got some good points but Holmgren is now winning despite all the injuries. Tuna is falling apart...

And has Holmgren gone through any end-of-season soul searching over wanting to still coach? Continuity also involves the staff showing commitment for the next season even in the aftermath of a disappointing one.

JMO

 

[Clove]

uh, you do know that Jimmy never employed any imaginative schemes? those Dallas teams just beat you straight up

okay.

 

[CowboyJeff]

Post of the day would be naked pics of Carrie Underwood.

would naked pics of Carrie Underwood be sustainable? I think they may lack continuity.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Sure the Bears had an easy schedule, but lets not forget we had the Titans in Youngs first start, the Cardinals, the Texans, Tampa Bay, Detroit, if you include the fierce rivals the Packers in the discussion with the Bears we have to count the Skins as schedule padding for our Boys too. We did not have it hard this year by any stretch of the imagination, you cant fault a team for destroying lesser competition, this isnt college, the Bears have no say over who they play.

I agree with you. But what I am saying, Lovie Smith may end this year with a great run, and he did everything right by beating the lesser teams. However, that doesn't mean he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I agree that so far he's answered all challenges. But people are getting carried away here, comparing his success this year to what Bill Parcells hasn't done.

 

[Idgit]

And has Holmgren gone through any end-of-season soul searching over wanting to still coach? Continuity also involves the staff showing commitment for the next season even in the aftermath of a disappointing one.

JMO

Holmgren's been considering retirement for the last 3 years or so.

 

[Hostile]

I just don't see these two coaching positions as analogous to each other. I really don't. There is such a thing as prime coaching jobs. The Dallas Cowboys is one of them. Seattle is not. Perhaps it could be one day, but for now it isn't.

They are lucky to have a Head Coach like Mike Holmgren after years of "rolling the dice" that someone would turn out to be good. It took them giving him the GM duties as well to get him. Once you have a Head Coach like that, I do see the wisdom of hanging on to him even if the results are not what was hoped for. You give a coach like that more time to build.

Expectations are higher in Dallas and I just don't see anything wrong with that.

 

[windward]

I just don't see these two coaching positions as analogous to each other. I really don't. There is such a thing as prime coaching jobs. The Dallas Cowboys is one of them. Seattle is not. Perhaps it could be one day, but for now it isn't.

They are lucky to have a Head Coach like Mike Holmgren after years of "rolling the dice" that someone would turn out to be good. It took them giving him the GM duties as well to get him. Once you have a Head Coach like that, I do see the wisdom of hanging on to him even if the results are not what was hoped for. You give a coach like that more time to build.

Expectations are higher in Dallas and I just don't see anything wrong with that.

Whether it's a prime job or not isn't really the case here, Hos. Regardless of the "prestige" a particualr job may carry, the ingredients for success in a parity driven league are really not too dissimilar in content and execution. What worked for Seattle, could, conceivably work for us.

 

[Haley94]

Holmgren didn't start winning until his power was reduced. He was GM the first part of his career there. Do you think Parcells would go for reducing his power? And don't tell me Jerry has made the personnel decisions the last four years.