You wanna shake things up Wade? Put EVERYONE'S position up for grabs

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This is one major problem with the Cowboys. Too many players are COMFORTABLE with their position on the team. Players need to be walking on eggshells and this will cause them to play better against opponents. Competition brings out the best in players. Whoever plays the best ball during training camp gets the job; it's that simple. If our rookie safety is playing better than Henry, START THE ROOKIE. Remember when Pacman came back and he immediately started over Jenkins? Well, those kind of decisions destroy team chemistry. This is why we will never win with Wade, because he always has a need to cling to the veterans, even if they're not playing better football than a younger player. EVERYONE'S POSITION SHOULD BE UP FOR GRABS (yes this includes you #9)
 

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That is one thing Nate Newton was talking about a few weeks ago. He thinks the players are too comfortable. He said he never steped foot on the premises at Valley Ranch and felt totally comfortable. He felt he could lose his job at any moment. I agree with this idea.
 

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YoMick;2562301 said:
I am TOTALLY onboard with this.

For EVERY player.

This is what Jimmy did. Players need fear instilled in them to be able to play at a high level. Having players knowing they're going to be a starter combined with JERRUH dishing out long term deals to players like Flozell and Hamlin send a bad message to the players. The message is basically if I play one solid year (like Hamlin), I could get a big deal from Jerry, then he'll have to keep me as a starter. Jerry needs to stop locking players up so often.
 

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The bottom third or fourth of the roster needs churned this year for that exact reason.
 

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Because clearly Jerry is going to be pleased as punch that Wade is going to threaten to bench his $60M QB, his $100M Offensive linemen, his $60M tied up in WRs, his $39M Free Safety and his $45M RB, among others.

Yeah go ahead, Wade, run that one past Jerry.
 

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I don't think Aikman, Smith, Irvin or Novacek felt that their jobs were on the line every season. But they also were the hardest workers on the team. AND they wouldn't have had anything to fear if it had been treated that way.

I don't think you punish the whole class for a few disruptive students. The realistic answer is to throw the competition open on every position where you have a guy who doesn't take it as seriously as he should. You shouldn't have to sugar coat it and act like no one has been working hard. IDENTIFY the slackers. Call them out. Make it known that THEIR position is up for grabs. That would make clear that there are no free passes.
 

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TheSport78;2562311 said:
Players need fear instilled in them to be able to play at a high level.

I thought bringing in Pacman and Tank accomplished this. Oh wait, you meant fear of being jobless.
 

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wileedog;2562316 said:
Because clearly Jerry is going to be pleased as punch that Wade is going to threaten to bench his $60M QB, his $100M Offensive linemen, his $60M tied up in WRs, his $39M Free Safety and his $45M RB, among others.

Yeah go ahead, Wade, run that one past Jerry.

This is why I stated Jerry is at fault as well because he dishes out these long term deals to players that really hadn't proven themselves like WR Roy Williams, Ken Hamlin and you could even make a case for Marion Barber. The bottom line is Jerry needs to know when to let players GO and replace them with younger, CHEAPER talent. You don't need all-stars at every position as I think this was proven this year. The 2008 Cowboys remind me of the USA basketball team a couple years ago when they had all that talent but no team chemistry.
 

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dallasfaniac;2562327 said:
I thought bringing in Pacman and Tank accomplished this. Oh wait, you meant fear of being jobless.
:laugh2: very funny
 

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rcaldw;2562320 said:
That would make clear that there are no free passes.

Until they go to whine to Jerry and he 'has a word' with Wade about keeping his players happy.

Don't believe me? Ask Ellis or TO how that works.

You guys are dreaming that anything of this sort will happen with this coach. What we are going to see is stupid little fines when a guy shows up late, or one or two sacrificial punishments for a really bad transgression, but otherwise it is going to be Happy Fun Time Camp again because Wade doesn't know any other way.
 

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TheSport78;2562338 said:
This is why I stated Jerry is at fault as well because he dishes out these long term deals to players that really hadn't proven themselves like WR Roy Williams, Ken Hamlin and you could even make a case for Marion Barber. The bottom line is Jerry needs to know when to let players GO and replace them with younger, CHEAPER talent. You don't need all-stars at every position as I think this was proven this year. The 2008 Cowboys remind me of the USA basketball team a couple years ago when they had all that talent but no team chemistry.

That has been one of Jerry's biggest failings since Jimmy left.

Needs to take a page from Philly - once you hit 30 you are on borrowed time in that town no matter who you are.
 

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wileedog;2562380 said:
That has been one of Jerry's biggest failings since Jimmy left.

Needs to take a page from Philly - once you hit 30 you are on borrowed time in that town no matter who you are.



Yes. Follow Philly.



:rolleyes:
 

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TheSport78;2562338 said:
This is why I stated Jerry is at fault as well because he dishes out these long term deals to players that really hadn't proven themselves like WR Roy Williams, Ken Hamlin and you could even make a case for Marion Barber. The bottom line is Jerry needs to know when to let players GO and replace them with younger, CHEAPER talent. You don't need all-stars at every position as I think this was proven this year. The 2008 Cowboys remind me of the USA basketball team a couple years ago when they had all that talent but no team chemistry.

I never understood why we gave Barber that 45 million deal sorry it should have been in the 25million range or a 1 year deal hell I would have rather payed him the 1 year franchise tag. I like Barber but I never saw him and still do not see him as the guy at rb.
 

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Finally, a fan thread idea that is sound thought, and not just emotion driven.
 

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Only problem I have is that different people respond differently to things like this - some people on the team have been consistent workers that were always there, always doing the right things, always proving themselves. Some of these people are entering contract years. Yeah, you'd like these guys to be competitive deep down, but people also crave respect and recognition for what they've done, and to disregard that could be corrosive to some people's performance.

Would this be the kind of slight that would weigh on Demarcus Ware after a DPOY snub? Doubt it, but you never know. Ratliff? Bradie James? Bigg?

You just run the risk of it being counterproductive with respect to certain players.

Doesn't mean it's not a good idea, just that it's not a win-win tactic. You can piss people off that you don't want to piss off by doing this.
 

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Shinywalrus;2562434 said:
Only problem I have is that different people respond differently to things like this - some people on the team have been consistent workers that were always there, always doing the right things, always proving themselves. Some of these people are entering contract years. Yeah, you'd like these guys to be competitive deep down, but people also crave respect and recognition for what they've done, and to disregard that could be corrosive to some people's performance.

Would this be the kind of slight that would weigh on Demarcus Ware after a DPOY snub? Doubt it, but you never know. Ratliff? Bradie James? Bigg?

You just run the risk of it being counterproductive with respect to certain players.

Doesn't mean it's not a good idea, just that it's not a win-win tactic. You can piss people off that you don't want to piss off by doing this.
I understand your viewpoint but the bottom line is, if these players like Ware Ratliff, etc are as good as we know they are, then they should have no problem beating out the competition.
 

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Hostile;2562402 said:
Finally, a fan thread idea that is sound thought, and not just emotion driven.

Appreciate it, Hos. I just want this team to play with a little bit of urgency for once.
 

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TheSport78;2562299 said:
This is one major problem with the Cowboys. Too many players are COMFORTABLE with their position on the team. Players need to be walking on eggshells and this will cause them to play better against opponents. Competition brings out the best in players. Whoever plays the best ball during training camp gets the job; it's that simple. If our rookie safety is playing better than Henry, START THE ROOKIE. Remember when Pacman came back and he immediately started over Jenkins? Well, those kind of decisions destroy team chemistry. This is why we will never win with Wade, because he always has a need to cling to the veterans, even if they're not playing better football than a younger player. EVERYONE'S POSITION SHOULD BE UP FOR GRABS (yes this includes you #9)

This should be the default every single day.
 

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wileedog;2562316 said:
Because clearly Jerry is going to be pleased as punch that Wade is going to threaten to bench his $60M QB, his $100M Offensive linemen, his $60M tied up in WRs, his $39M Free Safety and his $45M RB, among others.

Yeah go ahead, Wade, run that one past Jerry.

Yep...can you imagine Wade benching Romo like Reid did with McNabb?

NOT.
 
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