You Will Never Draft The Next Patrick Mahomes If You Handcuff Yourself To Alex Smith

[phildadon86]

Mahomes is amazing. 3 SB appearances in 4 years. If only.....

He has been in every single AFCCG since he was named the starter.

Let that sink in.

 

[America's Cowboy]

It's pretty sad how the forum's troll set the BS bait, and so many easily took it.

 

[CTcowboy203]

That's quite a meandering argument.

Road win was great. Brady is bad. Not complicated.

Sorry no. If Brady leaves Tampa the team he goes to immediately becomes a contender. Brady may not be the old Brady but he’s still pretty good and I’d bet half of the “I hate dak crowd” would take Brady right now on this team and say we’d be a contender

 

[TheCoolFan]

That 2024 QB class is looking very nice! Dak can continue to Alex Smith it up out there for a few more years and then we will be ready to dump him while the next QB is ready to take over

 

[CTcowboy203]

Not to mention trading up for Jordan Davis.

Philly knows how to win, build the DLine. Don't forget Hargrave, big nasty NT that Philly signed in FA while we were off chasing Canady, McCoy, Poe, Haha, Worley, and a pile of other non-difference makers.

Because Philly did it one way doesn’t mean the other examples are wrong…it means there’s a giant inferiority complex here because the eagles have done so much better than us of late.

 

[kskboys]

Sorry no. If Brady leaves Tampa the team he goes to immediately becomes a contender. Brady may not be the old Brady but he’s still pretty good and I’d bet half of the “I hate dak crowd” would take Brady right now on this team and say we’d be a contender

Don't disagree.

 

[DandyDon52]

I’m not sure they are comfortable with mediocrity as much as they fall victim to near constant misevaluation.

They aren’t qualified to do what needs to be done as an NFL GM.

Then they surround themselves with yes people that tell them what a great job they are doing.

Bottom line is they always think they are closer than they actually are, and like one more draft will put them over the top right away.

When Jerry is up there selling his product, I don’t think it’s a line of crap. I think he actually believes it.

totally agree on all this five, jerry believes things that he shouldnt, and is basically a billionaire fan running the show, making decisions much
like a fan, not a gm.
If he likes a player as a fan, he keeps them too long etc.
He also thinks guys like gallop dez etc, after injury will be same player as soon as they are cleared to play again.
He also likes his star players, and I think he demands they get more snaps than they should, and more targets/carries than they should get.

He invested $ and faith in dak, and will keep trying to prove he was right to do so.
This is where other gms will trade the player while he has value, and move on, jerry never does this.

Then they surround themselves with yes people that tell them what a great job they are doing.

yes many people in power do this and it is a mistake which leads to poor decisions.

 

[kskboys]

Because Philly did it one way doesn’t mean the other examples are wrong…it means there’s a giant inferiority complex here because the eagles have done so much better than us of late.

Not all that many ways to build a super bowl contender.

Top 5 QB. Trenches. Fill in the rest. If you can't stop the run, and we couldn't before this year, you won't win in the playoffs.

Eagles are doing better than us because they have an affordable QB and monster trenches.

 

[mardwin]

It’s a sound argument. And I have gotten to the point where I agree it’s time to do it.

I’m glad you at least recognize the risk involved in that the franchise may suck for years if it takes them a while to find an elite guy. So ink respect it.

There's risk on every pick. We drafted taco Charlton over T.J. Watts and released him after 2 years. The problem with this organization is that they don't even look at QB until the 4th round or later, hoping to hit Lotto.

 

[phildadon86]

There's risk on every pick. We drafted taco Charlton over T.J. Watts and released him after 2 years. The problem with this organization is that they don't even look at QB until the 4th round or later, hoping to hit Lotto.

Romo ruined this for everyone.

Jerry thinks if he did it once he can do it again. We arent talking about a logical human being here.

 

[SackMaster]

Hilarious you think Dak is capable of running an Aaron Rodgers-like offense. "The system" we currently run is more indicative of the limitations of our QB. It was adapted from the Garrett/ Romo offense but dumbed down for Dak. Sorry you can't see that ..... You'll see next year when we get bounced early from the playoffs again IF we make the playoffs.

I hate to break it to you, but Garrett called "4 guys running to the sticks and turning around" a lot for Romo too.

In fact, I distinctly remembering one of Romo's Ints happening when both the Outside and inside WRs on the left side of the offense ran turn around routes, but the outside WR finished first so when Romo went to throw to the inside WR, it was the CB covering the outside WR that intercepted the ball, and IIRC, for a pick 6.

2 offensive players and 3+ defensive players all within 5 yards of one another on a passing play has been a staple of the Cowboys offense for the past 15 years, regardless who the QB was.

Just sayin'

 

[mardwin]

First you have to admit you have a problem before you can address it.
Jerry has paid Dak $40 mil and so that makes Dak a franchise QB in his eyes so why move on.
If we had a real GM then that might change but we don't so we're stuck!

Paying Ferrari money for a Toyota Camry is the Jerry Jones logic.

 

[mardwin]

First you have to admit you have a problem before you can address it.
Jerry has paid Dak $40 mil and so that makes Dak a franchise QB in his eyes so why move on.
If we had a real GM then that might change but we don't so we're stuck!

Paying Ferrari money for a Toyota Camry is the Jerry Jones logic

KC replaced a well paid starting QB who wasnt quite good enough and made it to the SB.
TB replaced a well paid starting QB etc...
Rams replaced etc.
Eagles replaced etc.
Bengals replaced etc.

Anyone see a pattern?

Those teams are serious about winning.

 

[mardwin]

Chargers dumped Rivers and drafted Herbert.

Dak never half as good as Rivers.

 

[DandyDon52]

Because Philly did it one way doesn’t mean the other examples are wrong…it means there’s a giant inferiority complex here because the eagles have done so much better than us of late.

there are other ways, I guess , but phil gm is always making moves, and most of them work out good.
they got rid of wentz and got value picks for him, unloaded his contract, and are now going to SB with hurts who is on rookie contract.

jerry is still trying to prove he is right about dak, and dak lost value during course of this season. If dak has another bad season, or playoff game,
his value will drop even more.
to get value, you have to trade a player before value drops too low, Rams did it with goff, it helped them get to a SB.
Meanwhile jerry likes his guys till the point they have no trade value.

The other thing I see is phil built a offense that suits hurts, and didnt try to force him into a offense he cant do well in.

 

[mardwin]

And have nothing to show for it.

Chargers have no offensive line, no speed at receiver except Allen who's a route specialist and their defense has been horrible for a while. Not to mention they fired the HC in Herbert first year for a guy that can't get right.

On the other hand, Dak has had the luxury of playing behind one of the best OL in football for a while, great running back until they worn him down, and pretty good receivers until Cooper was traded. Not to mention a decent defense.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Phillip rivers was 38 when the chargers “dumped him” lol….and yes rivers was clearly better than dak but fellas there’s enough actual data out there to support the argument against dak than reaching for “they got rid of rivers” for Hebert or the bucs replacing Winston with Tom Brady….

 

[FTWayne]

KC should have stayed pat on the draft and never drafted Mahomes. I read on here he's not as good as dak and is a choker.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Not to mention trading up for Jordan Davis.

Philly knows how to win, build the DLine. Don't forget Hargrave, big nasty NT that Philly signed in FA while we were off chasing Canady, McCoy, Poe, Haha, Worley, and a pile of other non-difference makers.

Oh I know. We don't have a DT that could even make their team.

 

[baltcowboy]

He was a cancer in the locker room. He sucked his first year not sure what first two years you are referencing…..


And truthfully if we are being honest he’s really only had one great year and it’s 2017…he keeps living off of that and the injury is an excuse it’s been 5 years now….

There is a reason why the Cowboys chose to go with Zeke.