You wonder, if Zeke started the controversy with RB's not getting paid

[CowboyRoy]

... We know and they know. When Zeke got paid $$$$$, his stats became lower as years went forward. Instead of keeping pace, he declined.
I know he instilled some injuries, but the offset has been greater than expected.

Chargers RB, Austin Ekeler, now concerned with stigma, of whats seem to be occurring with RB's around the league Also take note of Barkley situation.

Using the franchise tag on them. Might be route to go.

Eklers scoop about it: RB Stigma

Started well before Zeke. Started with Gurley

 

[CowboyRoy]

first of all, splitting carries with pollard, injuries etc and still get 90 yards and 12tds is hardly less then expected all these carries later.

so no, it wasn't as zeke had a much better start to his career and earn the money as some of these others have been injured a lot at the beginning of their careers and are just now getting more carries and more snaps and our course their stats are going up!

zeke nearly had three rushing titles in a row, he led the league in rushing his first three years in the league and then still was top three in scrimmage yards in year 4 (2019)

so he earned his money,

we all know in 2020 there were 17 injuries and 11 different offensive line combos and no quarterback and in 2021 he started out the season 5 yards per carry until mid season, he hurt his knee then he started out near 5 yards per carry in 2022 and got hit in the thigh and knee and the offensive line shuffling and then you add in Kellen Moore to his career the expectations is on the fan base...

It's not on zeke he did not kill the running back position look at his career stats his accomplishments and all the carries he had the two great years at Ohio State that got him picked 4th overall and then what he did up till then he earned it....

what you're jealous?? the rest of the NFL running backs are jealous because he was smart enough to get paid ??

no zeke was not the downfall of the running backs there are probably ten others that were around 10 to $12 million that didn't even come near the production there were reasons other than his age and his workload, what you mentioned injuries there for sure part of it.. But when you can split carries and still come up with close to 900 yards and double digit touchdowns while injured that's not washed and that is not embarrassing it just happens. I agree with him being cut to save money on the cap don't get me wrong it was time but this is ridiculous they're blaming him for their issues..

worse was Gurley, David Johnson and others.. I'm not gonna go back and research all the contracts that were given around the same time or right before zeke that made him want that money and he got it and many of those did not have great success.. This is simply a league wide change in philosophy past happy league running backs are still important but they're finding out running back by committee changing running backs every four to five years it's not much of A drop off that's just a reality has nothing to do with zeke.

Alvin Kamara five years $75 million right before the 2020 season so the last 2 years hes better then zeke how?? Cmac same thing these dudes got paid after zeke and hasn't done much not much more you got an injured slower much more heavy carry see that seems to be holding his own against the other dudes that got paid outside of Henry.

Year	Team	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	REC
2022	Saints	223	897	4.0	2	57
2021	Saints	240	898	3.7	4	47
2020	Saints	187	932	5.0	16	83

McCaffrey signed a four-year, $64 million contract with Carolina in April of 2020, with cap hits of $8.7 million in 2022, $19.5 million in 2023, $19.5 million 2024 and $15.4 million in 2025 this day sure gets overrated by a lot of guys in here and he was traded but still what did he do in 2020 and beyond..

Year	Team	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	REC
2022	49ers	159	746	4.7	6	52
2022	Panthers	85	393	4.6	2	33
2021	Panthers	99	442	4.5	1	37
2020	Panthers	59	225	3.8	5	17

12 TD's were him basically falling over into the endzone from the 1 yard line. Something like 9 of his 12 TD's were inside the 5 yardlline. Almost half were inside the 3.

zeke is a putz and everyone knows it. Thats why no one wants him.

 

[Pass2Run]

Zeke established that if you have two players, and one is better than the other, you play the better player ,regardless of how much you paid the other.

That should be a no-brainer, but it's not. It was apparently a common dilemma around the league. I suspect we'll see a few backs who were 2nd backs last year, making names for themselves this year.A new era has begun.

 

[kumizi]

Zeke ended the controversy. He was the last glaring example of the pitfalls of paying a RB big money.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So, hound dog, what do you think will happen with the running backs, because that is my concern on offense. The Pollard injury still lingers and can he really carry the load? I have no clue about the others because I have not seen them play yet. Can Pollard carry the load in your estimation?

Although Pollard hasn't been fully cleared for action, he was able to take reps with the Cowboys' first-team offense in OTAs and said he hasn't lost any of his speed since the injury. In fact, Pollard believes he's actually faster.
"Honestly, I feel faster," he said. "I feel like I've got a lot of juice in me."

https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-rb...t-ahead-of-schedule-in-recovery-honestly-i-fe

That was near two months ago. Just curious what do you think the recovery time of a broken ankle is?

 

[DandyDon52]

... We know and they know. When Zeke got paid $$$$$, his stats became lower as years went forward. Instead of keeping pace, he declined.
I know he instilled some injuries, but the offset has been greater than expected.

Chargers RB, Austin Ekeler, now concerned with stigma, of whats seem to be occurring with RB's around the league Also take note of Barkley situation.

Using the franchise tag on them. Might be route to go.

Eklers scoop about it: RB Stigma

elliot and gurley are the main 2 that hurt the RB market.
they were both drafted high, and given a big contract, but didnt earn the contract. Gurley had the knee injury, and elliot just didnt
stay in shape and went down hill.

2 RB's were drafted high this year, so it depends on how they do as to what kind of contracts they get after rookie deal.

Ekler has a point, teams wanted to trade for him, but chargers wanted too much in picks, so he has to stay there and take whatever they pay him.

 

[DuncanIso]

12 TD's were him basically falling over into the endzone from the 1 yard line. Something like 9 of his 12 TD's were inside the 5 yardlline. Almost half were inside the 3.

zeke is a putz and everyone knows it. Thats why no one wants him.

#ZekeHate

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[DuncanIso]

elliot and gurley are the main 2 that hurt the RB market.
they were both drafted high, and given a big contract, but didnt earn the contract. Gurley had the knee injury, and elliot just didnt
stay in shape and went down hill.

2 RB's were drafted high this year, so it depends on how they do as to what kind of contracts they get after rookie deal.

Ekler has a point, teams wanted to trade for him, but chargers wanted too much in picks, so he has to stay there and take whatever they pay him.

Zeke was on a 16 mil rookie contract.

Don’t cry for Jerry.

Owners make a killing on those 1st contracts.

Looks what Diggs is making right now.

 

[Qcard]

It has something to do with it. This is a copycat league and that contract basically demonstrated what not to do. I don't see anyone besides Jerry going that far overboard anyway, but the value just isn't there. Zeke's contract jacked up the average RB contract, which in turn raised the franchise tag. It's definitely all related.

 

[DuncanIso]

Zeke ended the controversy. He was the last glaring example of the pitfalls of paying a RB big money.

It’s only the GTD money that counts.

He had 24 GTD on his rookie deal.

50 GTD on the 2nd contract.

Worth every dollar.

 

[Hardline]

I think all teams are now following the New England Patriots model. They have never valued RBs and they've done well.

The New England model was Tom Brady.

 

[DandyDon52]

Zeke was on a 16 mil rookie contract.

Don’t cry for Jerry.

Owners make a killing on those 1st contracts.

Looks what Diggs is making right now.

Elliot was paid 4 mil a year due to drafting him @ # 4.
Lower round picks make less than a mil a year.
1st 2 rounds pay pretty good.

It is unfair mainly to RB's, like KC used the 7th round pick last year as a starter, he did great, but is making peanuts, and then they can use him up
and let him walk in 4 years, so he never gets a big payday.

 

[DuncanIso]

Zeke ended the controversy. He was the last glaring example of the pitfalls of paying a RB big money.

10k APY
80 TDs

We got our moneys worth.

 

[DuncanIso]

Elliot was paid 4 mil a year due to drafting him @ # 4.
Lower round picks make less than a mil a year.
1st 2 rounds pay pretty good.

It is unfair mainly to RB's, like KC used the 7th round pick last year as a starter, he did great, but is making peanuts, and then they can use him up
and let him walk in 4 years, so he never gets a big payday.

Agree.

Most players never see a 2nd contract.

Short careers.

 

[DuncanIso]

Zeke ended the controversy. He was the last glaring example of the pitfalls of paying a RB big money.

80 TDs

Ice cream too cold.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The Pollard injury still lingers

*deep sigh*

 

[kumizi]

It’s only the GTD money that counts.

He had 24 GTD on his rookie deal.

50 GTD on the 2nd contract.

Worth every dollar.

He was great on his rookie deal.

His extension was a disaster. It’s not that difficult to google in case you were in a coma for the last three years.

 

[charron]

What does Zeke have to complain about?

He got a big contract 2 years early and then began his production decline.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

He was great on his rookie deal.

His extension was a disaster. It’s not that difficult to google in case you were in a coma for the last three years.

No coincidence when he broke into the league, he had an All-World OL....by the time he got extended the line began to deteriorate and so did he. Guess he got exposed. TP broke more plays behind that same OL. There's a reason he still looking for work.. Good riddance.

 

[shabazz]

It goes back much further - running back deals have been bad for a long time.

There's a reason Le'Veon Bell heldout, there's a reason Zeke drew a line in the sand, so to speak. Both talked about it being important for the position as a whole.

In fact we saw the draft stock fall with them as well. there were several years , as I recall, that no running backs were taken in the first round. In the distant past we’ve seen sometimes 4-5 running backs taken in the first round but the game has changed obviously since then.

use them up for 4-5 years and send them packing….it’s literally the easiest position to play other than punting and long snapper

zeke smartly squeezed out every dime he could….now he can just sit back and get fatter