Young > McNair

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Vince > Eli.....

however....whoever started this thread is absurd if they truly think at this point in time that

Vince > McNair

I am one of the biggest Vince homers around....but he has only played 1 year. I was very pleased with the way he played and how he lifted that team on his shoulders and were within 1 win of the playoffs after an 0-4 or 0-5 start.

I think with the continued help of McNair each offseason, Young will soon be better than McNair.....but no right now....

HOOK EM HORNS
 

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cstanton1987;1310923 said:
I'd give the Lions share of that figure to the defense

Young got the help of 8 Special teams TD's and 4 defensive TD's. Does that help him?
 

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Wrangler87;1310932 said:
He had a better QB Rating than Young in their respecitve Rookie seasons.

Carter just didn't get the help of 8 special teams TD's and 4 defensive TD's.
Theres more to the Game then just stats VY is ten times the leader than Quincy was. Real Talk
 

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Biggems;1310933 said:
Vince > Eli.....

however....whoever started this thread is absurd if they truly think at this point in time that

Vince > McNair

I am one of the biggest Vince homers around....but he has only played 1 year. I was very pleased with the way he played and how he lifted that team on his shoulders and were within 1 win of the playoffs after an 0-4 or 0-5 start.

I think with the continued help of McNair each offseason, Young will soon be better than McNair.....but no right now....

HOOK EM HORNS
Until Vince leads the Titans to the playoffs, or the Super Bowl, as McNair has done, there is no comparison, really.
 

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windward;1310931 said:
Well I like Vince as much as anybody, but a strong running game ,special teams and defense had thier fair share of wins in Tennessee, too.

Vinsanity was the cause of it all.
 

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Biggems;1310933 said:
however....whoever started this thread is absurd if they truly think at this point in time that

A VY debate always seems to get the masses stirring. :D

and uncovers the amazing thoughts of some...

Wrangler87;1310887 said:
Carter>Young when comparing passing Rookie seasons.
 

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cstanton1987;1310935 said:
Theres more to the Game then just stats VY is ten times the leader than Quincy was. Real Talk


Yeah, and there apparently was much more to the Titans wins than the play of Young.
 

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superpunk;1310939 said:
Vinsanity was the cause of it all.
Can Vince have as good of a career as McNair? Sure. But it's ludicrous to make such a comparison at this point in time.
 

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windward;1310965 said:
Can Vince have as good of a career as McNair? Sure. But it's ludicrous to make such a comparison at this point in time.

Young is not even in McNair's league as far as passing the ball goes.
 

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McNair had a bad game, but his season stats were much better then Youngs.
Overall he played better then Young. However, what Young brought to his team was very big. If he can get better at the mechanics and the more difficult parts of being a NFL QB then he could very well end up better then McNair.
 

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Wrangler87;1310974 said:
Young is not even in McNair's league as far as passing the ball goes.
McNair likely would have struggled if he started his first year as well. We need to wait 5+ years imo for this to be a meaningful comparison.
 

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Wrangler87;1310974 said:
Young is not even in McNair's league as far as passing the ball goes.

Apparently, by your accounts, he isn't in Quincy's league either. :lmao:

You have discredited yourself well young paduwon.
 

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Bleu Star;1310942 said:
A VY debate always seems to get the masses stirring. :D

and uncovers the amazing thoughts of some...
Scary fact he shared with us there.

Here's another "amazing" thought

Bleu Star said:
Young > McNair

Wow.
 

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Wrangler87;1310943 said:
Yeah, and there apparently was much more to the Titans wins than the play of Young.
Of Course but thats the thing about leadership it lifts all his teammates. You never feel like your out of a game with VY under center and when a team feels like they're always in it they play harder and then you see some of those plays that PacMan and the special teams make cause they have a guy under center that they can go to bat for. Ask yourself this why wasn't the Titans defense and special teams making those same plays for Kerry Collins?
 

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Bleu Star;1310981 said:
Apparently, by your accounts, he isn't in Quincy's league either. :lmao:

You have discredited yourself well young paduwon.


I know. It's almost sad that a guy gets so much positive hype while his piss poor passing is totally buried by the media.
 

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Da Hammer;1310895 said:
Please include the win/loss record for both players. Argument over!!!
Win/Loss record is an accurate indicator of QB play. It's funny that the Vince Young fans can only resort to that as a defense.
 

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Wrangler87;1310922 said:
More to winning than QB play. Ask Young. He got 8 special team TD's and four defensive TD's. Think that helped his record?

Drink the media koolaid........
No need to drink the media kool-aid. ive been following and watching Vince Young dominate games since he played HS football in Houston. he's a future HOF QB
 

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theogt;1310989 said:
Win/Loss record is an accurate indicator of QB play. It's funny that the Vince Young fans can only resort to that as a defense.

No this is my defense

cstanton1987;1310986 said:
Of Course but thats the thing about leadership it lifts all his teammates. You never feel like your out of a game with VY under center and when a team feels like they're always in it they play harder and then you see some of those plays that PacMan and the special teams make cause they have a guy under center that they can go to bat for. Ask yourself this why wasn't the Titans defense and special teams making those same plays for Kerry Collins?
 
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