Your all time dream team

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mmillman;3319478 said:
Elway

E. Smith
Earl Campbell
Walter Payton just so can run the wishbone

Jerry Rice
Steve Largent

Munoz
L. Allen
Stephonson
Hannah
W. Jones
Winslow

D Jones
randy white
Lilly
reggie smith

LT
Butkus
Bell

Haynes
Sanders

Lott
Easley

reggie smith?

Do you want Reggie White or Bruce Smith? Or did you just make them into one awesome player? :laugh2:
 

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I won't list a team but I could take a team of Cowboy greats and either beat or give any other team you can put together a good run for the money...

Now that is a blessing that I think most teams don't have..

Heck at RB I got 2 HOFers with different styles in TD and Emmitt

same at WR... Mike & Bob

same at QB..Roger & Troy

and the list goes on...What a team I could make and it could be 2 deep...wow
 

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Zaxor;3319523 said:
I won't list a team but I could take a team of Cowboy greats and either beat or give any other team you can put together a good run for the money...

Now that is a blessing that I think most teams don't have..

Heck at RB I got 2 HOFers with different styles in TD and Emmitt

same at WR... Mike & Bob

same at QB..Roger & Troy

and the list goes on...What a team I could make and it could be 2 deep...wow

My All-Time Cowboys team has some awesome players on it. I would put it up against any other teams' all-time players and be certain we would come out on top.
 

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RainMan;3319472 said:
This list is incomplete without Kavika Pittman.

On a serious note, I know many disagree Emmitt's the best running back ever -- but there's no denying he's the most accomplished. There might have been faster, more athletic, flashier, harder-to-bring-down backs. But no running back ever achieved as much as he did. From the MVP, to the Super Bowls, to the rushing crown.

Most productive back ever, bar none. And in my book, production is a pretty good vehicle through which greatness can be measured.

WALTER PAYTON

A complete back. Blocked, Talented runner, NEVER ran out of bounds. A GREAT inspirational leader and played with AWEFULL offensive lines for most of his career on teams that generally sucked.

Still just barely outstripped in production by Emmitt our dancing with the stars champion.

WALTER PAYTON.
 

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Nightshade;3319613 said:
WALTER PAYTON

A complete back. Blocked, Talented runner, NEVER ran out of bounds. A GREAT inspirational leader and played with AWEFULL offensive lines for most of his career on teams that generally sucked.

Still just barely outstripped in production by Emmitt our dancing with the stars champion.

WALTER PAYTON.

That's not strictly true. The Bears had good O-Lines for most of Payton's career and had multiple Pro-Bowlers in their heyday in the mid-80s.

A case in point: in 1978 when Payton ran for 1395 yards the FB, Roland Harper ran for 992 yards and averaged a tenth of a yard per carry less than Walter.

In their SB year of 1985 they had 3 PBers on the O-Line.

People point to the other players on offense that Emmitt had around him but he never had a defense like the Bears did during the mid-80s.

For most of Payton's career, the Bears were at least average and at the end they were dominant. The Cowboys were only dominant for 4 years of Emmitt's 15-year career. The last 7 he played with us we were just average too and terrible in his final 3 seasons with us (the dreaded "Campo Years").

All that said, I rank Payton and Emmitt about even in terms of overall production. Payton was a better open field runner but Emmitt was better in short yardage. Emmitt was a better blocker but Payton was a better receiver. Payton was a better leader and could play QB in a pinch but Emmitt played longer and had more success.

I rank them 1a & 1b with Jim Brown as 1c.

Putting Emmitt down because he worked hard to become good at something after football is pretty lame too. :rolleyes:
 

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RainMan;3319472 said:
This list is incomplete without Kavika Pittman.

On a serious note, I know many disagree Emmitt's the best running back ever -- but there's no denying he's the most accomplished. There might have been faster, more athletic, flashier, harder-to-bring-down backs. But no running back ever achieved as much as he did. From the MVP, to the Super Bowls, to the rushing crown.

Most productive back ever, bar none. And in my book, production is a pretty good vehicle through which greatness can be measured.

Truth.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3318905 said:
bolded the stuff that makes no sense.

How does BO Jackson not make sense. Are you kidding me. Perfect combination of speed and strength. Mr 8 games 1000 yards...c'mon.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3319384 said:
to start: because I dont like Peyton Manning/Jerry Rice has no effect on my ability to play football.


I guess I have had so many idiotic posts that people thought I was serious, I listed what 20/22 players as Cowboys. Im a homer, but im not that blind. I posted a more serious list above, and will post a defense one tomorrow, and no I do not know every player to ever play in the NFL like CowboyJoe and Hostile seem too; No I do not know every o-line to ever play the game that was great. I do know more than the causal NFL fan, since the casual one knows the names Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Brett Favre and Darelle Revis and their knowledge of the sport ends there. I bet I know more than many average NFL fans aswell, i'm 16 my window of knowledge of pro-football is slim.

Don't let the haters get you down, R2A. You are alright in my book. :cool:
 

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QB...Roger Staubach --- my team, my qb

RB...Walter Payton
FB...Jim Brown

WR...Jerry Rice
WR...Michael Irvin

TE...Tony Gonzales

LT...Anthony Munoz
LG...John Hannah
C...Mike Webster
RG...Larry Allen
RT...Art Shell


LDE...Reggie White
DT...Randy White
RDE...Bruce Smith

LOLB ...Demarcus Ware (yea, yea, yea --- my team)
LILB ...Dick Butkus (hey gotta make room and Iron Mike is in the middle)
RILB ...Mike Singletary
ROLB ...Lawrence Taylor

LCB...Mike Haynes
SS... Ronnie Lott
FS... Mel Renfro
RCB...Deion Sanders
 

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jterrell;3320109 said:
QB...Roger Staubach --- my team, my qb

RB...Walter Payton
FB...Jim Brown

WR...Jerry Rice
WR...Michael Irvin

TE...Tony Gonzales

LT...Anthony Munoz
LG...John Hannah
C...Mike Webster
RG...Larry Allen
RT...Art Shell


LDE...Reggie White
DT...Randy White
RDE...Bruce Smith

LOLB ...Demarcus Ware (yea, yea, yea --- my team)
LILB ...Dick Butkus (hey gotta make room and Iron Mike is in the middle)
RILB ...Mike Singletary
ROLB ...Lawrence Taylor

LCB...Mike Haynes
SS... Ronnie Lott
FS... Mel Renfro
RCB...Deion Sanders

Bro that defense is BEASTLY..That front seven is REEE DICK U LUS
 

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Great team, thought I'd add some depth...
QB...Roger Staubach --- my team, my qb
--- add Unitas and Montana and you have three clutch, clutch QBs ---
RB...Walter Payton
--- Emmitt, Dickerson

FB...Jim Brown

--- cheating!

WR...Jerry Rice
WR...Michael Irvin

--- add Bullet Bob and TO (in his prime)

TE...Tony Gonzales

--- Winslow Sr and Witten

LT...Anthony Munoz
LG...John Hannah
C...Mike Webster
RG...Larry Allen
RT...Art Shell

--- this line is so solid I'm not sure you can even pick a second team

LDE...Reggie White
DT...Randy White
RDE...Bruce Smith

--- not sure I can see the Manster playing NT but I like to see it tried. I know Lilly could do it. Just saying.

LOLB ...Demarcus Ware (yea, yea, yea --- my team)
LILB ...Dick Butkus (hey gotta make room and Iron Mike is in the middle)
RILB ...Mike Singletary
ROLB ...Lawrence Taylor

--- the idea of LT and Ware opposite one another is superb. You will never block them both.

LCB...Mike Haynes
SS... Ronnie Lott
FS... Mel Renfro
RCB...Deion Sanders
 

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Hostile;3319415 said:
I just want to piggy back on this comment for a minute, because Romo2Austin is a good kid. He just needs to listen and right now he doesn't.

There is nobody affiliated with the NFL that is going to EVER agree with the belief that Jerry Rice was over rated. The guys in his list would disagree with him, vehemently. Yet he still will not listen.

Then he will turn around and say he is only 16 and doesn't know as much as some of us and has limited experience. That's all well and good, but at 16 you (this means everyone) don't know it all and in this case, you almost don't know anything.

Let me explain something. Jerry Rice isn't just the greatest WR who has ever laced up cleats, he is probably the greatest football player who has ever laced up cleats.

Calling that man over rated screams ignorance. Why would anyone want that label applied right to their Internet forehead? I honestly cannot take people seriously who simply do not get it. This topic isn't even hard. I can forgive the ignorance of not realizing how good Darrelle Revis is, but this is different. No one who knows football is going to agree that Jerry Rice is over rated. Not one single living, breathing, thinking person.

Learn the game or face the shame.

A very well thought out post and the bolded part I couldn't agree with more. I've long said that Rice isn't just the greatest WR I've ever seen play (and that includes guys who played in the 60's and 70's before my time (by watching replays, classics, all that stuff) but also the absolute best football player i've ever had the honor of watching play.

The guy just flat out was exactly what every coach wishes they could get in every single player they ever coach.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3320434 said:
A very well thought out post and the bolded part I couldn't agree with more. I've long said that Rice isn't just the greatest WR I've ever seen play (and that includes guys who played in the 60's and 70's before my time (by watching replays, classics, all that stuff) but also the absolute best football player i've ever had the honor of watching play.

The guy just flat out was exactly what every coach wishes they could get in every single player they ever coach.

There are a few contenders for the "greatest football player of all time" and Rice is on the list. The others I would consider are:

Jim Brown
Otto Graham
Sammy Baugh
Jim Thorpe
Walter Payton

I look for players who were so far above their competition or were so versatile that they simply stood out on the field.

Jim Brown was so far ahead of every other RB in the league at the time he won the rushing title all but one of his 9 seasons and even that year he was only 4 yards shy of 1000. He set every rushing record there was and STILL holds the record for yards per game at 104.3, 45 years after he retired!

Otto Graham, like Brown, was just so much better than his competition it isn't even close. He was the top ranked passer 4 times in his 10 seasons and was in the top-3 8 times! He took his team to the championship game every year he was a pro, that included when he was a pro basketball player! He is 2nd all-time in rushing TDs by a QB to only Steve Young. He is the only QB ranked in the top-25 in passer rating that played prior to 1979 (he's tied with Favre for 16th).

Sammy Baugh was a HoF QB, an All-Pro DB, and one of the greatest punters in NFL history. He, along with Sid Luckman, revolutionized the passing game in the 30s & 40s. He was a tough competitor and was good at everything he did.

Jim Thorpe was an incredible athlete who could do everything well. Unfortunately, by the time the NFL came into being he was in his 30s and never got to play in a truly organized league. Still, even late into his 30s he could still play well enough to be a star and a major draw for the early league.

Walter Payton was not as dominant as Brown as opposed to the competition, in fact he only won the rushing crown one time in his 13 seasons, but he was just outstanding at everything he did. No RB ever had the combination of skills to the level that Payton did.
 
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