Youtube announces Sunday Ticket pricing

[Creeper]

I don't think $250 is that bad tbh.

$200 would have been perfect.

I'll definitely try it out this first year.

It's $250 with the $73 per month cost of Youtube TV, right? And is that just for the first year? Or do customers get to sign up early every year for the same discount?

No way I am subscribing to Youtube for the discount. The whole deal is $1125 per year!

 

[Hoofbite]

Red Zone is the best. When the Cowboys aren't on, our TV is always on that channel.

Red Zone is easily the best programming on television, maybe ever. You get uninterrupted live feeds from every game and they show you every score. No commercials (maybe the split-screen stuff, I can't remember) and just 5-6 hours of straight football. If you don't like Red Zone, you don't like football.

I like Red Zone so much they should be paying me to give this opinion.

 

[Creeper]

Agree completely. I think for YouTube is a win either way. For subscription model businesses, especially with auto renewing payments I tend to see more success with lower prices and more subscribers. That said though I’ve never worked with a company even close to the size of YouTube and am sure they are looking at it from a different viewpoint and have a ton of data to support their pricing.

I am not convinced. DirecTV was losing subscribers and so was Sunday Ticket. I find it hard to believe that all those customers who dropped DirecTV and Sunday Ticket would shell out even more money for Youtube and Sunday Ticket. DirecTV's monthly subscription price for their basic service was less than Youtube's.

 

[Hoofbite]

It's $250 with the $73 per month cost of Youtube TV, right? And is that just for the first year? Or do customers get to sign up early every year for the same discount?

No way I am subscribing to Youtube for the discount. The whole deal is $1125 per year!

It's the same model DirecTV had. You're paying not only for the subscription to basic cable but also the cost of the additional package. YouTube is the new DirecTV.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Will just stream illegally when needed.

And they wonder why there are pirates.

 

[Creeper]

I get it. Youtube paid a lot of money for the rights to Sunday Ticket. But that is not my problem. I wouldn't pay DirecTV that kind of money and I won't pay Youtube. I am certainly not going to shell out $73 a month to get a slight discount in the Sunday Ticket price. Why would anyone commit $876 for a Youtube subscription just to get a $100 discount on Sunday Ticket?

Maybe if no one subscribes they will figure out how to offer a team streaming package for less money.

 

[MarcusRock]

same reason directv offered it. often and regularly. have you ever met a consumer?

Not sure what point you're making now but you said your point was that YTTV could make profit on their investment with a lower price point. I'm showing you why they don't have to make the price lower: it's demonstrated that people are willing to pay it already and they can lure people with lower annual costs than cable/satellite service where they lifted the Sunday Ticket from in the first place. Ain't just about the NFL. The real money's beyond it.

 

[Flamma]

yeah and there is no telling how much nfl is charging them for it, or how much they paid or will pay.
That will affect what they can sell it for.

Also I doubt they are aware that direct tv used to give customers who said they would cancel cheap or free sun ticket.
Every thing is going up in price, so are things like sun ticket.

The nfl is to blame , they are super greedy and only care about 1 thing ,MORE MONEY !!!!!!!
They dont care about fans, especially fans who cant afford sun ticket. lol

It's always been that way. Back in the 70s the home team had their games blacked out because they wanted to make sure people filled the stadium. Then they went to, if the game sells out 72 hours prior to the game, they won't black it out. Sometimes games would sell out after the deadline, too bad. You can't watch. But the visiting team fans can.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

It's always been that way. Back in the 70s the home team had their games blacked out because they wanted to make sure people filled the stadium. Then they went to, if the game sells out 72 hours prior to the game, they won't black it out. Sometimes games would sell out after the deadline, too bad. You can't watch. But the visiting team fans can.

This is exactly the reason given by NFL for making sure Sunday Ticket customers are charged a min similar to Direct TV price. Apple TV wanted to charge customers less NFL refused to consider their bid.

 

[DandyDon52]

It's always been that way. Back in the 70s the home team had their games blacked out because they wanted to make sure people filled the stadium. Then they went to, if the game sells out 72 hours prior to the game, they won't black it out. Sometimes games would sell out after the deadline, too bad. You can't watch. But the visiting team fans can.

I remember that lol, missed a bunch of cowboy games due to that.
That was before psl's, and back then they needed people to go to the games to get by.

today they all make plenty of $, with psl's better tv contracts etc, and the nfl is just greedy, and some owners are too.

 

[budsboys]

Glad I get it without YouTube for 20 bucks a month.

How do you get it for $20 a month

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Well holy crap.

And directv had the college student deal for $99 per season.

Everyone hates cable companies ect..
Let's just all stream everything.. that will be cheaper.... Sure

The NFL uses monopolistic non competitive business practices and this is what we get.

Any gamers remember the NFL 2k series that the nfl made EA buy the exclusive rights and the quality went down the toilet.

Yes, and it is unfortunate because Madden used to be good because of the competition. Now, it might as well be owned by Fortnite because they use similar practices. It's now no longer about the actual football game so much as throwing money to level up the team. Which is the exact opposite of what John Madden wanted.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

What a bargain!! Sit in my own home (or anywhere else for that matter) and watch any Sunday afternoon game of the season for less than a single ticket. Much less all the other costs.

Well, when you put it that way...

 

[jazzcat22]

QUESTION- if you dont have YoutubeTV but buy the sunday ticket, does that mean games shown in your local market will be blacked out?

Yes just like DTV, when they had it, any games shown on local broadcast channels will not be shown on ST. It is a FCC rule.

 

[jedishogun]

What sucks is that sometimes there are bandwidth issues that cause the picture on your 4k TV to be awful. Some of the amazon games were worse than my old picture tube before cable. Best way to watch the NFL is still Direct TV.

I switched to YouTube TV in February from Direct TV. I always felt like Direct TV has the worst picture quality and non 4k on YouTube looks way better that direct tv ever did watching sports or movies. I also have Google fiber so I don’t have bandwidth issues while streaming. That may be the reasons for me. Direct TV was very expensive and their customer service fell off when AT&T bought them.

 

[jazzcat22]

Not sure what point you're making now but you said your point was that YTTV could make profit on their investment with a lower price point. I'm showing you why they don't have to make the price lower: it's demonstrated that people are willing to pay it already and they can lure people with lower annual costs than cable/satellite service where they lifted the Sunday Ticket from in the first place. Ain't just about the NFL. The real money's beyond it.

I have not read through all the posts to get the entire context.

But I think he may be thinking, YT may find out, they will not get as many people subscribing or changing providers to get that discount. Nor will they spend the extra money to buy ST stand alone. As many will think it is unfair to be forced (in context) to subscribe to get that discount. So they will not buy neither.

However, if they were offered the special or a lower rate as if a customer, they would purchase it as a stand alone way to watch games. Therefore YTTV will sale more NFL ST subscriptions overall.
It will not cost them anymore to broadcast to 1,000 homes as it would 100 homes. They are just trying to maximize the profits, as you say, thinking they are willing to pay for it. And they could be correct, we will see.

I have been thinking of switching from DTV to YTTV or Hulu or even DTV Stream. And this special price does not make me want to sign up just to get it. However if that would be the price offered right up to the season starts, I would consider it. Not this decide by June crap.
I get all the Dallas games anyway, but I like the option of many other games. And yes, one can stream from other sources, but it is not as convenient to quickly switch channels on your TV or watch multiple games on your TV screen.

At $249 I would definitely consider it. I did get NFL ST free for many years, 6 of the last 8 were free.
On could cancel several other things to shift that money if they wanted to. Cancel Netflix for 6 months, I plan to cancel Sirius XM but never do. Though I only pay $6 a month, as they try to change it every year to $21. So there are ways to adjust for the cost if that is what one really wants to do.

Then again maybe I am thinking too much.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You get limited zip code changes with Hulu. 3 per year so that would nullify things pretty quick.

But we're not talking about Hulu.

I'm a little unsure about what you are saying. VPN is a very quiet process. It has more to do with HIDING you IP.

 

[Jipper]

Yes just like DTV, when they had it, any games shown on local broadcast channels will not be shown on ST. It is a FCC rule.

Well that just sucks, guess I still have to get cable of some sort then..

 

[Flamma]

This is exactly the reason given by NFL for making sure Sunday Ticket customers are charged a min similar to Direct TV price. Apple TV wanted to charge customers less NFL refused to consider their bid.

Right. I remember something about that. That the channel airing the game would be hurt. Something to that effect.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Maybe if no one subscribes they will figure out how to offer a team streaming package for less money.

Good luck with that. Millions of people will subscribe.