Zeke’s worth?

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If you need to spend that high of a pick on a RB, then your team is seriously flawed. RBs are not worth picks that high and the Cowboys didn’t outsmart the rest of the NFL by doing just that.

Really? I’d say 13-3 last year and 5-2 this year with him says otherwise. They’ve struggled to score points, and defenses are not stacking the box. Zeke was well worth the 4th overall pick. He makes this team go. How can you not see that?
 

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These last three games truly show how important a three down TRANSCEDENT running back is. I think we go 2-1 with Zeke. It also shows why stats are meaningless. You would think Morris would be doing ok judging off his YPc, but the run game is been awful. SITUATIONAL FOOTBALL. Zeke always kept us in third and short. Would ALWAYS get at least three yards. Chain mover. Workhorse. His importance cannot be measured. Dak looks like a ******* ******** without him.


Subtle isn’t your strong suit is it? :muttley:

But I agree 100%
 

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I don't think we would have won any one of these games even if Zeke played. Morris and Smith actually have run the ball reasonably well.

Reasonably well? Who cares? I'll tell you who doesn't care - opposing defenses.

Zeke is a home run threat and he's proven it several times. When he is in the game defenses have to fear our running game. That opens up the passing game. Without Zeke, no one fears our running game. They focus on stopping the pass and will live with whatever Morris and Smith can muster because neither is going to pop an 80 yard TD on them.
 

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I don't think we would have won any one of these games even if Zeke played. Morris and Smith actually have run the ball reasonably well.
McFadden also ran the ball well, but none of them can make the plays that Zeke makes. They also don't scare any defenses into stopping the run, while Zeke had coaches game planning to stop him.
 

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Really? I’d say 13-3 last year and 5-2 this year with him says otherwise. They’ve struggled to score points, and defenses are not stacking the box. Zeke was well worth the 4th overall pick. He makes this team go. How can you not see that?
Because you don’t have to spend that high of a pick to get a good or great RB. All you have to do is look around the league to see every Sunday. Yeah he’s great. You can get comparable players much later in the draft also.
 

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Zeke was 2nd in the league in rushing the day he got suspended.
He without a doubt would've led the league in rushing this year also.
And no. You cannot just get a great RB later in the draft.
 

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We’ve seen Post after Post talking about how taking a RB wasn’t worth the 4th overall pick in the draft.

Here we are sitting at 0-3 without him, and not just losses but blowouts. I think it’s safe to say he is the most important player on this team. He was well worth the 4th overall pick. It’s a shame what the NFL did to this kid.

Zeke is to Cowboys that Aaron Rogers is to GB. Only problem with that is RB have much shorter shelf life and he is one more mistake from lifetime ban.
 

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We’ve seen Post after Post talking about how taking a RB wasn’t worth the 4th overall pick in the draft.

Here we are sitting at 0-3 without him, and not just losses but blowouts. I think it’s safe to say he is the most important player on this team. He was well worth the 4th overall pick. It’s a shame what the NFL did to this kid.
Would we have won against Philthy with Zeke? No. Would we have won tonight with Zeke? No Would we have won against Atlanta with Zeke? No. Would the games have been closer? Maybe.

As stated earlier, the problems run a lot deeper then Zeke. Convenient excuse but not reality. Keep digging.
 

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Would we have won against Philthy with Zeke? No. Would we have won tonight with Zeke? No Would we have won against Atlanta with Zeke? No. Would the games have been closer? Maybe.

As stated earlier, the problems run a lot deeper then Zeke. Convenient excuse but not reality. Keep digging.

You know this how? They were rolling before the suspension. I agree the problems run deeper. Actually I think they’re very deep, and people discounting Zeke’s ability to mask that are blind. But his importance to this club is huge, and just as big if not bigger than any other player. I’m not happy with the QB, HC position. I never believed Dak was a franchise type QB. Still burned how this franchise did Romo so dirty.
 

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You know this how? They were rolling before the suspension. I agree the problems run deeper. Actually I think they’re very deep, and people discounting Zeke’s ability to mask that are blind. But his importance to this club is huge, and just as big if not bigger than any other player. I’m not happy with the QB, HC position. I never believed Dak was a franchise type QB. Still burned how this franchise did Romo so dirty.

We were rolling against the 49ers, Commanders, and Chiefs.
 

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You know this how? They were rolling before the suspension. I agree the problems run deeper. Actually I think they’re very deep, and people discounting Zeke’s ability to mask that are blind. But his importance to this club is huge, and just as big if not bigger than any other player. I’m not happy with the QB, HC position. I never believed Dak was a franchise type QB. Still burned how this franchise did Romo so dirty.
Who did we beat with Zeke and who have we lost to without Zeke? Take into account the overall injuries. Personally I think Zeke is a great player but he wouldn't have made the difference between us winning or losing.

Rolling before the suspension against who? The Giants? The Cardinals? The 49'ers?
 

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We were rolling against the 49ers, Commanders, and Chiefs.

Commanders and Chiefs were considered good opponents when Dallas played them. Matt you’re missing the point. Zeke masked the bigger issues with the offense which are the QB.
 

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Who did we beat with Zeke and who have we lost to without Zeke? Take into account the overall injuries. Personally I think Zeke is a great player but he wouldn't have made the difference between us winning or losing.

Well since I can’t predict the future I couldn’t tell you. But the fact they were scoring 28 points a game with him and what 7 without I’d say there was a more of a chance of them beating any of these 3 teams with him.
 

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Commanders and Chiefs were considered good opponents when Dallas played them. Matt you’re missing the point. Zeke masked the bigger issues with the offense which are the QB.
Eh, I wouldn't go that far but close.
 

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Commanders and Chiefs were considered good opponents when Dallas played them. Matt you’re missing the point. Zeke masked the bigger issues with the offense which are the QB.

Commanders were kinda banged up (still are) when we faced them, and the Chiefs were exposed.

I'm not disagreeing that our offense would be slightly better, I just don't think Zeke is as valuable as some are claiming. Mainly because we already got our butts kicked in a similar way in the second week.

There were even games last year where Zeke played well, but due to Dak's throwing, we did little - second Giants game and the Minny game.

I just don't view Zeke as a Peterson, Sanders, Smith type of talent. I still view him as the Bell, Johnson, McCoy-level player - valuable, but not transcendent. I just think it's overrating to say if he was here, things would start to click. I don't, I think this downward spiral was inevitable.
 

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Well since I can’t predict the future I couldn’t tell you. But the fact they were scoring 28 points a game with him and what 7 without I’d say there was a more of a chance of them beating any of these 3 teams with him.
You do realize the Chiefs, Giants, 49'ers, and Commanders are all in the bottom 6 overall defenses in the league, don't you?

And of course there was a better chance of us beating these teams with him biut as already stated, our problems are a lot deeper.
 
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