Zeke is playing Sunday **merged**

[IheartRomo]

The Eagles will have everything locked up by the finale. They won't be playing Wentz. That should be an easy game to win.

We'll get beat by 30+ points in the first meeting though. Something like 42-10 ish.

I don't think Dallas will get crushed in the first meeting at all. The Eagles are not world beaters by any means. Not sure Dallas can win without Zeke but I don't see it as a blowout either. They've got plenty of weaknesses.

 

[TheHerd]

Failla is the district court judge. Whomever loses (which she has made clear the NFLPA will lose) has automatic rights of appeal to the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, so they don't need "grounds for appeal." CA2 would be starting fresh so the earlier conflict of interest would not be a factor.

Sorry, didn't really mean grounds for appeal, but more a question of would the appeal be more likely to be successful?

 

[Kevinicus]

Lol, this makes me want to win even more.

You should see/hear some of the nonsense one of the local (I am in KC) sports radio guys (Kevin Kietzman) has been saying today. Spreading lots of disinformation/lies on his shoe and twitter.

This is a guy I had respected for being fairly intelligent and level-headed. Not anymore.

 

[Melonfeud]

that's hilarious, if it goes back to Failla the NFLPA will just ask her to recuse herself

what chiefs fans are saying: http://www.***NOT-ALLOWED***.com/BB/showthread.php?s=eaea507bb2770aac558169c0c439666f&t=311289

I've read all 16 pages over there V-MAN!, And our in house "S troop" has got nothing on them percentage wise, as most are pretty well grounded, heck even a fist full of them stuck up for our #21,,, but my absolute favorite was on page 11 about at the bottom: " if Dallas has its way with our defense ,it's gonna be a long day and listening to ROMO school us on how to play football will be even worse "( I can't remember word for word,but that's the gist of it)

Thanks for that 'link'

run that ball& run it some more hit DEZ deep center Field often, even a fist full know #82 plans on killing them

 

[Melonfeud]

Man, that Chiefs board, all they do is throw fbombs at one another. We have our agruements here, but nothing close to the hatred there.

I Copied that!,,, one told the other he needs to meet the ban hammer,,,,really makes one appreciate our house

 

[Bohuntr97]

Sorry, didn't really mean grounds for appeal, but more a question of would the appeal be more likely to be successful?

We really have no idea right now. Failla made her decision (perhaps wrong) yet gave the NFLPA a 24 hour window to appeal the decision before it takes place. They now have. It seems she "punted" it up to a higher court.

 

[viman96]

I've read all 16 pages over there V-MAN!, And our in house "S troop" has got nothing on them percentage wise, as most are pretty well grounded, heck even a fist full of them stuck up for our #21,,, but my absolute favorite was on page 11 about at the bottom: " if Dallas has its way with our defense ,it's gonna be a long day and listening to ROMO school us on how to play football will be even worse "( I can't remember word for word,but that's the gist of it)

Thanks for that 'link'

run that ball& run it some more hit DEZ deep center Field often, even a fist full know #82 plans on killing them

I'm surprised how many are expecting Dallas to beat them. As you read, there are some good posts in the Chiefs thread!

 

[Ghost12]

Sorry, didn't really mean grounds for appeal, but more a question of would the appeal be more likely to be successful?

Technically no. The appeals judges would look at the merits of the case and pay no attention to the lower court's potential conflict.

But in the real world? Your guess is as good as mine. I suppose it is possible an appeals judge might consider Failla's ruling flawed based on her conflict and decide within himself to pay less heed to her decision....

 

[Ghost12]

A bit of bad news today, albeit nothing confirmed. According to Wallach, the 3-judge panel assigned to the Elliott appeal likely includes Judge Chin, who is one of the 2 judges who ruled against Brady last year.

This panel will be ruling on the injunction, not the case itself, but Chin may be inclined to deny the injunction based on low likelihood of success.

 

[Pants]

A bit of bad news today, albeit nothing confirmed. According to Wallach, the 3-judge panel assigned to the Elliott appeal likely includes Judge Chin, who is one of the 2 judges who ruled against Brady last year.

This panel will be ruling on the injunction, not the case itself, but Chin may be inclined to deny the injunction based on low likelihood of success.

So you are saying that Zeke could take it on the Chin???

I digress.....

 

[DogFace]

A bit of bad news today, albeit nothing confirmed. According to Wallach, the 3-judge panel assigned to the Elliott appeal likely includes Judge Chin, who is one of the 2 judges who ruled against Brady last year.

This panel will be ruling on the injunction, not the case itself, but Chin may be inclined to deny the injunction based on low likelihood of success.

Any chance Chin sees this differently because it’s a criminal accusation and maybe investigating these matters aren’t the nfl’s forte?

Since Manzant was so adamment that fundamental fairness wasn’t met how likely is that something he could see differently than that last judge?

Seems as though not being allowed to see the notes was a big deal in getting a fair arbitration. Is that a big deal? What was Failia’s opinion about those notes not being shared?

 

[Ghost12]

Any chance Chin sees this differently because it’s a criminal accusation and maybe investigating these matters aren’t the nfl’s forte?

I doubt it because the issue the NFLPA is arguing has to do with fundamental fairness during arbitration and the arbitrator's authority to compel/exclude witness testimony.

However, please note, the 3-person panel assigned to next week's hearing is only deciding on the injunction, not the merits of the case itself. Assuming Chin is on it, he could (theoretically) set aside his opinion on the merits of the case and give Elliott an injunction based on the notion of irreparable harm. (I wouldn't bet on it, but it certainly is possible)

Since Manzant was so adamment that fundamental fairness wasn’t met how likely is that something he could see differently than that last judge?

Manzant is a Texas judge in the 5th District and his opinion will have no bearing on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals. Not only is the Cort of Appeals a higher court, but it is a different district.

Seems as though not being allowed to see the notes was a big deal in getting a fair arbitration. Is that a big deal?

IMHO the biggest deal is the denial of having Elliott be able to confront his accuser.

IMHO a proper arbitrator would have allowed Elliott the chance to confront and cross examine his accuser. And if she refused to show up then there is no compelling evidence of guilt and he should have overturned the suspension. Granted, there's no compelling evidence of guilt anyway but an arbitrator should go with the testimony before him/her, not news reports or hearsay.

What was Failia’s opinion about those notes not being shared?

I do not believe she spoke to that point in her ruling (I am not 100% sure of that, but I remember her addressing the point of failure to compel testimony)

 

[xwalker]

I don't think Dallas will get crushed in the first meeting at all. The Eagles are not world beaters by any means. Not sure Dallas can win without Zeke but I don't see it as a blowout either. They've got plenty of weaknesses.

He loves his hometown Eagles.

 

[Alexander]

I don't think Dallas will get crushed in the first meeting at all. The Eagles are not world beaters by any means. Not sure Dallas can win without Zeke but I don't see it as a blowout either. They've got plenty of weaknesses.

Amazing how they have but one loss with so many weaknesses.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Amazing how they have but one loss with so many weaknesses.

Must be coaching. lol

 

[Alexander]

Must be coaching. lol

Of course. That ringer Pedersen must just have that untalented bunch playing over their collective heads.

 

[IheartRomo]

Amazing how they have but one loss with so many weaknesses.

They're 3-0 in games decided by fewer than 5 points. Great thing, but not as if they're the 07 Patriots trouncing everyone in their path.

They've been very fortunate to play with the lead each and every single game so far without exception. That's unrealistic to expect it to continue.

 

[Alexander]

They're 3-0 in games decided by fewer than 5 points. Great thing, but not as if they're the 07 Patriots trouncing everyone in their path.

They've been very fortunate to play with the lead each and every single game so far without exception. That's unrealistic to expect it to continue.

Tight games are a part of the NFL.

Few teams record blowout wins.

If Dallas had a 3-0 record in tight games, nobody would bat an eye.

I get how it does not seem sustainable, but they have already basically weathered the rapids on their schedule and emerged in fine shape.

It is not like they have some amazing weakness that is a glaring flaw week to week. Last year they could not cover anybody. This year, they are getting the job done.

The best I can come up with is their OL taking a big dip, which already seems to have happened.

 

[IheartRomo]

Tight games are a part of the NFL.

Few teams record blowout wins.

If Dallas had a 3-0 record in tight games, nobody would bat an eye.

I get how it does not seem sustainable, but they have already basically weathered the rapids on their schedule and emerged in fine shape.

It is not like they have some amazing weakness that is a glaring flaw week to week. Last year they could not cover anybody. This year, they are getting the job done.

The best I can come up with is their OL taking a big dip, which already seems to have happened.

I don't think Dallas is going to win the division, don't get me wrong. But I think the Eagles are similar to the Giants last year where their record in close games is greatly skewing their actual ability (Giants were 7-1 in such games, Eagles are 3-0 this year). Again, I think Philly is a solid team, I did last year too when they were on the other side of the bounces with a poor record in tight games. But they're simply not a dominant team at this point. They're very beatable.

 

[Alexander]

I don't think Dallas is going to win the division, don't get me wrong. But I think the Eagles are similar to the Giants last year where their record in close games is greatly skewing their actual ability (Giants were 7-1 in such games, Eagles are 3-0 this year). Again, I think Philly is a solid team, I did last year too when they were on the other side of the bounces with a poor record in tight games. But they're simply not a dominant team at this point. They're very beatable.

Fair enough.

But close wins count too. Just because the Giants have tanked this year does not mean they had some fatal flaw last year.

All they did is read their own press clippings and not address critical needs.

The Eagles have had some progress improvement.

Wentz is clearly better and more comfortable.

Their OL was very good until Peters went down last week.

The run game will get a shot in the arm with Ajayi.

Their receivers improved. Agholor got over his issues from last year, Ertz has been exceptional.

Their DL has been dominant.

The LBers have been good enough, but Hicks going down clouds it.

The secondary has played way beyond their skill level with Darby going down early. Jaylen Mills has matured, Rasul Douglas has played very well as a rookie.

They have some challenges going forward at OT and MLB, but to discount their record and how they got there just tells me that the person saying that has no idea of who they are talking about.