Zeke & Pollard are the MVP of this team not Dak or Micah

RonnieT24

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They have combined 19 TDs the OC knows a little bit just need to be more consistent.

Agreed more consistency in using the running game is needed. What I don't understand is how they managed to remember this all while Rush was starting but have struggled with it since Dak came back. There have been times when they have done it but as you say no consistency. And they are still running horribly designed plays.. Like that stupid delay draw where they don't block the backside end but instead pull the backside tackle which any halfwit DE will immediately see and just follow him to the play.
 

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I will say this, I have been on the Pollard > Zeke train for quite some time and understand Zeke is on the downside of his career. Even I can acknowledge he is still an important cog and has been playing much better recently.
 

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I will say this, I have been on the Pollard > Zeke train for quite some time and understand Zeke is on the downside of his career. Even I can acknowledge he is still an important cog and has been playing much better recently.
Being an important cog, and being team MVP are vastly different things.

Don't confuse them....
 

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I disagree, teams are having to change defensive scheme to handle Micah.
 

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Being an important cog, and being team MVP are vastly different things.

Don't confuse them....

I just assumed the OP title was a troll. It's clear Micah is defensive MVP and Lamb / Pollard the offensive.
 

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Agreed more consistency in using the running game is needed. What I don't understand is how they managed to remember this all while Rush was starting but have struggled with it since Dak came back. There have been times when they have done it but as you say no consistency. And they are still running horribly designed plays.. Like that stupid delay draw where they don't block the backside end but instead pull the backside tackle which any halfwit DE will immediately see and just follow him to the play.

Maybe it’s Kellen’s ego but Dak needs to override him at LOS and take more responsibility as the leader of the team.
 

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Maybe it’s Kellen’s ego but Dak needs to override him at LOS and take more responsibility as the leader of the team.

I don't disagree but like I said.. Dak thinks Moore is a "genius" so it's going to take a lot for Dak to override him. It took Romo until year 10 before he realized that Garrett's play calling was too formulaic and defenses were calling out the plays for him. If it takes Dak that long we can look forward to a nice playoff run in 2025.
 

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Correction.. he has was COULD BE a dominant running game. Only either he or the OC will not let it because they go away from it for long stretches of damn near every game. I am not here to declare that it's one vs the other but I do know this.. If it's Moore always sending in pass plays and 5 wide empty backfield formations then he still needs to be fired. If it's Dak going rogue and audibling out of run plays that Moore send then Moore stills needs to be fired for not being strong enough to keep his player on point and Jerry needs to hire an OC Dak will listen to. In the final analysis Dak's contract says he will be here at least two more years.. Moore can be sent packing tomorrow.

Oh and the pro bowl caliber receiver thing? If that's all you have at receiver and the rest of your corps is C-minus or lower you're royally screwed because any halfway decent DC can take away one guy if he wants to and make the other guys beat them. Like JAX did on the 3rd down play in the 4th quarter. They triple covered CeeDee and took their chances that nobody else would stand up in a tight situation. They were right.
Nice post!! The more I watch this team on offense, the more I'm concerned of KM's lack of enginuity during a whole game. KM's play calling is so sporadic at times and rarely looks like he's got a good feel for a strategy as the game changes esp when the defense makes adjustments. His 2nd half tactics look so predicable at times, it's easy to know run or pass when they line up.
I know some of it's on the players to execute but is all the "elaborate" shifting and gadgetry working?
 

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Ive said it so much, it makes no sense why we keep going back to shotgun mania....your star groups on offense (outside the OL) are the TE group and RB yet our OC feels the need to try and "Showcase" his shotgun genius for some reason. Line up under center or hell the pistol is fine but my god this run scheme out of the shotgun is feast or famine because the Dline has an easy slant tell...it's just stubborness from this coaching staff. This is not a "Spread" run scheme that has easy misdirection/trap runs, its literally zone side and the damn defense can slant away from the RB side most times and stuff it.
 

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Correction.. he has was COULD BE a dominant running game. Only either he or the OC will not let it because they go away from it for long stretches of damn near every game. I am not here to declare that it's one vs the other but I do know this.. If it's Moore always sending in pass plays and 5 wide empty backfield formations then he still needs to be fired. If it's Dak going rogue and audibling out of run plays that Moore send then Moore stills needs to be fired for not being strong enough to keep his player on point and Jerry needs to hire an OC Dak will listen to. In the final analysis Dak's contract says he will be here at least two more years.. Moore can be sent packing tomorrow.

Oh and the pro bowl caliber receiver thing? If that's all you have at receiver and the rest of your corps is C-minus or lower you're royally screwed because any halfway decent DC can take away one guy if he wants to and make the other guys beat them. Like JAX did on the 3rd down play in the 4th quarter. They triple covered CeeDee and took their chances that nobody else would stand up in a tight situation. They were right.
If it's Noah's drop you are talking about...I think that was more a fluke than Jax "being right"?
 

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Nice post!! The more I watch this team on offense, the more I'm concerned of KM's lack of enginuity during a whole game. KM's play calling is so sporadic at times and rarely looks like he's got a good feel for a strategy as the game changes esp when the defense makes adjustments. His 2nd half tactics look so predicable at times, it's easy to know run or pass when they line up.
I know some of it's on the players to execute but is all the "elaborate" shifting and gadgetry working?

The shifting and motion are needed for two reasons. One is to force the defense to show its hand in the coverage. The other is to free up Lamb. He's much easier to defend if you just line him up wide because the db can come up and jam him and even if he misses he knows he will have help over the top in any highly leveraged situation. But the offense has been predictable for years. Ray Lewis told us as much back in 2008 when they closed down Texas Stadium by kicking our rears. It stopped being that way when Romo finally matured to the point where he was smarter than Garrett and smarter than most DCs. He could come to the line and get us into the correct call to beat anything the defense showed. Dak has to get to that level for this team to succeed against good defenses.
 

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If it's Noah's drop you are talking about...I think that was more a fluke than Jax "being right"?

No on both fatal 3rd down plays the JAX defense essentially forced the ball to go to Brown. He failed to step up in both cases. So they were indeed correct in assuming they could double Lamb, send pressure to keep Schultz and Pollard in.
 

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The shifting and motion are needed for two reasons. One is to force the defense to show its hand in the coverage. The other is to free up Lamb. He's much easier to defend if you just line him up wide because the db can come up and jam him and even if he misses he knows he will have help over the top in any highly leveraged situation. But the offense has been predictable for years. Ray Lewis told us as much back in 2008 when they closed down Texas Stadium by kicking our rears. It stopped being that way when Romo finally matured to the point where he was smarter than Garrett and smarter than most DCs. He could come to the line and get us into the correct call to beat anything the defense showed. Dak has to get to that level for this team to succeed against good defenses.
Romo might be a great OC for us if JJ could buy him out of the booth. Not sure if Romo wants to even go there but you are right about his eventual ability to read defenses.
 

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Put and big back on the goal line with this offensive line and the touchdowns will come, youre skewing stats to fit your agenda

Perceptions don't skew stats.. stats skew perceptions. You can't "skew" stats... Stats represent facts which cannot be altered. Only interpreted. There are 5 running backs in the entire NFL with more TDs than Zeke. Yet in your mind "any big back" can do what he does. If that's the case why can't Pollard do it? Pollard is not even half as successful on goal line runs as Zeke is.. No he is not a big back but if scoring in close is so easy why does he fail to score on 2/3 of his carries while Zeke scores on half of his? Is the 10 pound weight difference really that big? I think we need to quit trying to minimize Zeke's contributions to this team. Why can't we just enjoy what both guys do? I certainly have no problem doing so!
 
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