Zeke still fast

SteveTheCowboy

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I said nothing combative, just my opinion that Elliott isn't an elite RB and has been on the declined, but I'm a fan of the team and I hope every roster spot plays great.
I guess I should display more drooling.
You can't win around here. You have to 100% love a player oir 100% bhate them or fans get all whiney.
No not true...this is where you have to stop lying to shore up your agenda.

. I have said MANY times...I didn't like Zeke early holdout nor the mega contract. I thought he came back out of shape. I thought in 2020/late 2021 he was getting tackled to easily...maybe that was protecting an injury so I cut him slack on that.

I am not above giving player fair criticism. Given the state of the o-line and Moore's pathetic run scheme (and falling behind early)....it's not totally on him. I bioggles my mind peopel don;t see the overall problems there...but...okay.

I suppose I should claim "zeke sucks he's done" so we can get along?
 

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No not true...this is where you have to stop lying to shore up your agenda.

. I have said MANY times...I didn't like Zeke early holdout nor the mega contract. I thought he came back out of shape. I thought in 2020/late 2021 he was getting tackled to easily...maybe that was protecting an injury so I cut him slack on that.

I am not above giving player fair criticism. Given the state of the o-line and Moore's pathetic run scheme (and falling behind early)....it's not totally on him. I bioggles my mind peopel don;t see the overall problems there...but...okay.

I suppose I should claim "zeke sucks he's done" so we can get along?
But I mentioned that the O line & play calling could improve and that Elliott isn't a home run hitter. You dismissed the point and latched out at the home run hitter comment.
And I never said he sucks or is done. You're connecting dots that aren't there.
 

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My apologies kind sir. When I said "you"...I didn't mean you you. I am pretty sure we're in agreement.

My issue is that I think much of Zeke's production, lack there of? is NOT on him. If we are NOT interested in a formidable O-line..like Emmitt mostly had. like Zeke had in 2016, if we are NOT interested in scheming an effective run game involving both Zeke and Tony as a dual threat....then Zeke IS a waste and we might as well pay some schmuck to get abused physically and by fans.
Thanks Steve, no problem.
I am very concerned about the Oline.
There is another post up right now about the Front Office and fixing the run game that I laid out my concerns in.
Take a look.
Thanks! John
 

SteveTheCowboy

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But I mentioned that the O line & play calling could improve and that Elliott isn't a home run hitter. You dismissed the point and latched out at the home run hitter comment.
And I never said he sucks or is done. You're connecting dots that aren't there.
I didnt lash out at the home run hitter. I even admitted the 2021 highlights I keep showing....have none!
With all the other weapons we have....he doesnt have to be long ball hitter....but fix the o line and i bet we see more.
 

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I lose interest when a player show up to their multi million dollar opportunity fat and out of shape.
When Zeke burst a long run I’ll scream and holler just like all fans. It’s a thing I just don’t know how to handle.
 

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He reached 22 miles this week in a work out. Stop sleeping on his speed. He’s probably faster than pollard. He just weighs more and doesn’t have a faster 5 yard burst.
Some family members of his most recently bruised girlfriend were trying to run him down in a supercharged golf cart.
 
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