Sturm/PFF: Osa contract projection

[Jarv]

Love the kid......he deserves it but not here unless we get a high-level run defender also. Bench Mazi .....rotational

I'd pass at that price, like the kid but too expensive for what you get.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

This has the stink of Tyrone Crawford written all over it.

No way Jose.

 

[Creeper]

This! Osa made some good plays here and there but I do not recall him having a huge impact on any game. If you are going to pay him $21 million he needs to be more visible every game, not just once in a while.

If I could get Milton Williams for that money I would take him over Osa in a minute.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

Either pay him or go "all in" at DT through the draft and free agency. Otherwise this defense is in for a world of hurt. Without Osa, the strongest returning DT as of now is Mazi Smith.

 

[CCBoy]

Either pay him or go "all in" at DT through the draft and free agency. Otherwise this defense is in for a world of hurt. Without Osa, the strongest returning DT as of now is Mazi Smith.

That projected would repeat failures on the levels of both the last season for SF and Dallas.

 

[gimmesix]

He probably walks.

Cap $$$ in 2025 is tight.

They won't be once we restructure Prescott and Lamb (their bases for this year were set up for that) and extend Parsons. Now, from a cap standpoint, it would be better to give Odighizuwa a longer-term deal to keep this year's cap hit lower, which means that we could add more free agents, but I'm just hesitant to do that because I think he's a solid but not stud player. Sadly, solid young DTs on the free agent market demand quite a bit of money.

And I'm not saying we have to have Osa or we're doomed, but I do think we have to either keep him or sign his equivalent in free agency (which will cost us about the same) because you don't know how the draft will fall or what you might get. And even if you get a DT who turns out to be better, it's not likely that he'll be better as a rookie because it's a position where players often need a season to get their feet wet.

Now, knowing this front office, they will let Osa go in free agency, replace him with a broken or old vet on his last legs and then not draft a DT until the third day of the draft.

 

[CCBoy]

They won't be once we restructure Prescott and Lamb (their bases for this year were set up for that) and extend Parsons. Now, from a cap standpoint, it would be better to give Odighizuwa a longer-term deal to keep this year's cap hit lower, which means that we could add more free agents, but I'm just hesitant to do that because I think he's a solid but not stud player. Sadly, solid young DTs on the free agent market demand quite a bit of money.

And I'm not saying we have to have Osa or we're doomed, but I do think we have to either keep him or sign his equivalent in free agency (which will cost us about the same) because you don't know how the draft will fall or what you might get. And even if you get a DT who turns out to be better, it's not likely that he'll be better as a rookie because it's a position where players often need a season to get their feet wet.

Now, knowing this front office, they will let Osa go in free agency, replace him with a broken or old vet on his last legs and then not draft a DT until the third day of the draft.

Agree, that approach defeat team building and functions.

 

[CCBoy]

We can all have, and do obviously, thoughts on how the Cowboys should be more aggressive in free agency, but this might be a bit rich if we are being honest. Odighizuwa has, as noted, been a great player for the team, but this is a lot of money to consider handing out, especially with the Parsons extension looming and hope for aggression elsewhere.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...d-21m-per-year-micah-parsons-defensive-tackle

Keep your youngish and top players...or stay foolish.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Love the kid......he deserves it but not here unless we get a high-level run defender also. Bench Mazi .....rotational

Am I so out of touch that it's a forgone conclusion that he's going to get 21 APY? That's crazy imo

 

[CCBoy]

Am I so out of touch that it's a forgone conclusion that he's going to get 21 APY? That's crazy imo

Still is valid to keep team strengths and still young.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Still is valid to keep team strengths and still young.

If given the choice, I'd love to keep him, but not at $21

 

[CCBoy]

According to spotrac.com, Osa Odighizuwa is projected to command a contract in the range of 3yr/$63 million, or $21 million annually.

Here is a list of other impact defensive tackles who are in the same range of average annual salary:

• DeForest Buckner, Indianapolis ($23 million)
• DaRon Payne, Washington ($22.5 million)
• Dexter Lawrence, New York Giants ($21.875 million)
• Kenny Clark, Green Bay ($21.33 million)
• Javon Hargrave, San Francisco ($21 million)
• Christian Barmore, New England ($20.875 million)

Osa’s $21 million per year projection is just an estimate, and the way the Cowboys do business will drive that price up higher before it’s all said and done.

https://insidethestar.com/cowboys-brass-should-think-twice-before-bringing-this-defender-back

 

[CCBoy]

If given the choice, I'd love to keep him, but not at $21

Why not? Money will be added to cap by the NFL and current contracts were made to carry these kinds of load additions.


*(Maybe if they knew how to structure deals like other teams successful in free agency, they could make the money work.)

 

[CCBoy]

What if I told you one of those players already wears a star on his helmet? Chauncey Golston was taken nine picks after Odighizuwa in the 3rd round of the 2021 draft.

https://insidethestar.com/cowboys-brass-should-think-twice-before-bringing-this-defender-back

This season, Golston played at a comfortable weight that allowed him to be effective both on the edge and also inside as a 3-technique.

He set career highs in pressures (18), hurries (9), and sacks (5.5) to set himself up nicely for a generous second contract. Spotrac estimates his 2025 contract to be in the $4-$6 million per year range.

The Cowboys can keep Osa at 3T for $21 million per year, or they can sign Golston for $6 million per season and he can line up on the edge as well as inside at 3T

 

[CCBoy]

The big picture on roster rebuild boils down to this:

The big picture for the Cowboys, there are other paths they can take to build the roster at defensive tackle that will give them a little more flexibility to add to other positions of need.

https://insidethestar.com/cowboys-brass-should-think-twice-before-bringing-this-defender-back

 

[gimmesix]

Am I so out of touch that it's a forgone conclusion that he's going to get 21 APY? That's crazy imo

We've got to understand, though, that doesn't mean he'll get $21 million this year or even next year. It's just the APY and it's usually inflated by big base salaries on the back end. That either forces a renegotiation or the team to take a big cap hit to cut the player (mitigated some by the June designation). Players generally want two things, a good amount of guaranteed money and the opportunity to make more money before their value goes down. A long-term deal would likely mean Dallas could get Odighizuwa for $10 million or less this year and $15 million or less in 2026. Of course, no telling what the dead cap hit would need to be in 2027 to get that, but the base can be structured in a way that it can be restructured into bonus to lower the hit that year if he was worth keeping.

The reason I want to use the transition tag on him is I don't know if he'll be worth keeping, especially if we draft a DT who proves to be more of the stud we need at 3-tech. He's worth what he's worth right now because it's hard to find a stud at 3-tech.

 

[MikeT22]

Realistically, in Jerry's world it will get worse. We will let Osa walk, sign another 3 -1 year DT's that are 30+ and maybe draft 1, that will take time to develop.

Yeah, due to not having a real GM, we are stuck with 2 poor options. Having to overpay an okay DT while also needing a dominate DT next to him, or let him walk and needing 2 starting caliber upgrades at DT.

Same thing happened last year. A half dozen or so average starters or rotational players entered FA and we didnt replace most with equal or better talent.

 

[gimmesix]

What if I told you one of those players already wears a star on his helmet? Chauncey Golston was taken nine picks after Odighizuwa in the 3rd round of the 2021 draft.

https://insidethestar.com/cowboys-brass-should-think-twice-before-bringing-this-defender-back

This season, Golston played at a comfortable weight that allowed him to be effective both on the edge and also inside as a 3-technique.

He set career highs in pressures (18), hurries (9), and sacks (5.5) to set himself up nicely for a generous second contract. Spotrac estimates his 2025 contract to be in the $4-$6 million per year range.

The Cowboys can keep Osa at 3T for $21 million per year, or they can sign Golston for $6 million per season and he can line up on the edge as well as inside at 3T

I don't think Golston is a viable 3-tech. He had a lot of his success this year as an LDE after Lawrence went down. When we drafted him, Quinn wanted him to add weight so he could play inside because he wasn't great as an edge rusher at end. Last year, we allowed him to drop back down some and play end more. I think he's a good base end who can move inside on passing downs in a rotation. If we're relying on him as a 3-tech, we're making a mistake.

 

[MikeT22]

Since when does Jerry like run stoppers.

Didnt say he did. But I wouldnt pay $20+ mil for a DT who isnt a run stopper while also not being a dominate pass rusher while the starting DT next to him has zero pass rush abilities and also isnt a run stuffing force.

 

[MikeT22]

They have nothing without him.

We know, our FO sucks.