Which rookies are going to take the biggest leap going into Year 2?

Mr_437 said:
Beebe put up 20 reps on bench press at the Combine. I agree with you guys that Cooper could get noticeably stronger this offseason. It's encouraging how Beebe handled the toughest/best division of DTs in football even without a offseason of strengthening.

Question for the anybody: How do you see Beebe performing at C in this new run scheme where he'll be required to pull and get blocks out in space a few times a games?
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Mr_437 said:
Beebe put up 20 reps on bench press at the Combine. I agree with you guys that Cooper could get noticeably stronger this offseason. It's encouraging how Beebe handled the toughest/best division of DTs in football even without a offseason of strengthening.

Question for the anybody: How do you see Beebe performing at C in this new run scheme where he'll be required to pull and get blocks out in space a few times a games?
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Does the C pull a lot?
 
Mr_437 said:
Beebe put up 20 reps on bench press at the Combine. I agree with you guys that Cooper could get noticeably stronger this offseason. It's encouraging how Beebe handled the toughest/best division of DTs in football even without a offseason of strengthening.

Question for the anybody: How do you see Beebe performing at C in this new run scheme where he'll be required to pull and get blocks out in space a few times a games?
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He seems fairly athletic though blocking out in space is much harder. These guy have fact he had virtually no problems learning to snsp the ball means he put in the work. Those are the guys that I love to have and they can learn anything at least on a solid level
 
kskboys said:
I think his upside is best C in the game.
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The effort is there and that’s really key. Pitential is great but the guys who put in the work to reach that pitential are the ones who do
 
conner01 said:
He seems fairly athletic though blocking out in space is much harder. These guy have fact he had virtually no problems learning to snsp the ball means he put in the work. Those are the guys that I love to have and they can learn anything at least on a solid level
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Yes, but how often is a Center going to be blocking in space?

Don't forget, they also said Fredbeard couldn't block in space, and he was decent at it.
 
blueblood70 said:
You know only in here will an alleged Cowboys fan and I use that term loosely 'cause I don't think you are would say that you have to come in here and bring up a Washington name a hated rival and **** on what could be just a nice calm thread but hey let's just go ahead and expand on that maybe Jayden Daniel can actually beat the Cowboys this year he literally lost the first game to a bunch of backups he was losing the second game look like a deer in the headlights got pulled from Marcus Mariota who actually went out and played quarterback better and won that game against even more Dallas cowboy backups..

Pretty sad that this rookie of the year type couldn't even beat a bunch of backups Yep that's how the Cowboys own the east when they're healthy but in this case he couldn't even beat the backups that's pretty sad... Right now I'd say he's overrated and I know he played OK in the playoffs and he looked pretty good in the championship game but you know what I've seen lake bortles and Mark Sanchez playing lose championship games it's nothing special... So yeah I'm gonna stick with that you wanna bring up a Washington player let's bring up the fact that Dan Quinn's team got exposed the defense looked bad and his quarterback couldn't even beat a Cowboys backup team at home when they were really wanting some revenge for Dan Quinn and the Traitor players and coaches who went there..

I couldn't be happier when they lost that NFC championship game that way got embarrassed.... So yes he's gonna need to make a leap he's gonna actually have to look good against the Cowboys starters....
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Yeah I'm sure he's really worried about the toilet organization we've become.
 
kskboys said:
Yes, but how often is a Center going to be blocking in space?

Don't forget, they also said Fredbeard couldn't block in space, and he was decent at it.
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If we do more runnjng on the edges he would. But Fred wasn’t bad in space. It’s not about pancaking your guy, just occupy him. He’s athletic but the best trait I’ve seen from Beebe so far is effort to learn. The fact he handled the center position from an exchange perspective so well having never done it shows he puts in the work. I’m excited to see him grow as a player
 
No mention of Guyton. If he doesn’t take a big jump he’ll be the OL’s version of Mazi. Tyler Smith is the only good player we have on the OL. Beebe has some potential but I’m not sold on him at center.
 
KJJ said:
No mention of Guyton. If he doesn’t take a big jump he’ll be the OL’s version of Mazi. Tyler Smith is the only good player we have on the OL. Beebe has some potential but I’m not sold on him at center.
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Dude that's insane Cooper BeeBee played very well like way above average he was as good as TylerB in year 4 as rookie IMHO lmao..hes an upgrade IMHO..not sold? LOL

I'm not sure what you were looking at but he's going to be the long time starter whether it's at center or guard ,he is an absolute NFL OL Talent. He was actually ranked second amongst other rookie offensive lineman his grades were that good but apparently in your mind he needs to prove more and no they're set with him..

I don't know what you expect maybe pro bowlers at every position but I like bass Hoffman and even Richardson they have a chance to be better as they get more experience and hopefully the scheme and the coaching is better this year, but those dudes are all starters.. they may not be frontline starters but they can start in this league and that's what you need first but Hoffman absolutely play better than Martin last year and I don't want to hear about the injury if he could play better than a veteran Hall of Famer even in his upper years, that's the start we have something there with Hoffman...

of course, we should go out and get 3 New front-line OL Starers in your mind, ignore all the actual holes we have in other areas....... BTW Rico a Jag RB somehow got 1079 yards last year he made the top 12th in the league behind that line with one good player and no help from the OLC/Scheme or play caller..thats insane. He must be Henry good imagine with real line Ricos getting 2k next year with better line give that man 10M!!! .. LOL Rico was better than many RBs with bigger names including TP and as good as James conner..crazy with no line "))

look I understand we might need to add a player, we need to get better in that area. but saying we only have one good player that's insane... We have far more concerns elsewhere..
 
Probably Beebe. So so start at playing an unfamiliar position led to rough output from the IOL. Progress was shown throughout the season, leading to what looked like a competent unit by the end of the year, despite Martin being shut down for the year. Another offseason in the S&C program along with more experience in the system making line calls and working on his technique should do him alot of good.

I didn't love last years draft class initially, but nearly everyone played and flashed the ability to contribute.

Guyton was green, but the physical traits were evident. Needs to develop his upper body strength .

Kneeland already looks like a solid starter.

Marist started to turn it on towards the end of the year. Needs to be more consistent but he showed the ability to make plays in the NFL.

Carson looked decent at times, but wasn't ready for a full workload. Could be a decent 3rd corner in a year or two.

Flournoy is raw but has exceptional physical ability. Could develop into a strong second or third receiver in a year or two.

5 solid contributors from any draft class is a solid haul. Hopefully these guys continue to develop and become difference makers. All of them have the ability. Just a matter of coaching it out of them.
 
Kneeland on defense and Guyton on offence because he didn't show me enough in year one.
 
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