The more I look, the more I like

[Stash]

yep, very interesting. I wonder if mike would consider going after him since he knows a lot about him.

Based on them trading out Hundley for Kizer, I'd guess not.

 

[TwentyOne]

Who's that "good backup QB"?

Seriously ?

Dak Prescott.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Given how desperate teams are for a starting QB, I think Keenum ends up a starter somewhere, though I could be wrong.

 

[Stash]

Seriously ?

Dak Prescott.

Oy!

I'm not even gonna go there!

 

[Stash]

Given how desperate teams are for a starting QB, I think Keenum ends up a starter somewhere, though I could be wrong.

Where would you place him? I'm curious to know.

 

[Kevinicus]

Hell no. I'd rather have Dak at 30 million than Keenum at 7-10. Keenum is not very good. I think people think you can just plug a quarterback in to this offense because its that easy. Mind you........Keenum had a much better team in Minnesota and by the time the playoffs came around his true colors came around. If the plan is to suck than stick with Cooper Rush or draft someone. There's no perks of having Keenum here.

Bolded is the point.

The difference between he and Dak is not that great. Certainly not as significant as what you get with an extra 20-25 million in cap space for the rest of the team.

You can't just plug in ANY QB into this offense, but you can plug in just about any capable QB and get good production.

 

[kskboys]

Given how desperate teams are for a starting QB, I think Keenum ends up a starter somewhere, though I could be wrong.

Possibly, but he's failed as a starter everywhere he's gone, and now he's over 30.

 

[kskboys]

Bolded is the point.

The difference between he and Dak is not that great. Certainly not as significant as what you get with an extra 20-25 million in cap space for the rest of the team.

You can't just plug in ANY QB into this offense, but you can plug in just about any capable QB and get good production.

I'm actually torn on this. Problem is, Keenum absolutely will not take you there. Dak might.

 

[Stash]

Possibly, but he's failed as a starter everywhere he's gone, and now he's over 30.

He didn't "fail" in Minnesota, when that team went 13-3 and to the NFC Championship Game.

When is the last time any of our quarterbacks have taken us there?

 

[Stash]

I'm actually torn on this. Problem is, Keenum absolutely will not take you there. Dak might.

The point isn't planning on having Case Keenum "take you there".

A film review from Football Outsiders:

"However, the success of the Minnesota Vikings offense, in particular, begs the question: can the quarterback be a complementary piece rather than the anchor of an NFL offense?

Case Keenum, a career backup and spot starter since entering the league in 2012, ascended into the MVP conversation after taking over for an injured Sam Bradford in Week 2. Only a year removed from a disastrous stint with the Los Angeles Rams, Keenum finished the 2017 regular season with a league-high 28.2% DVOA. He had other great stats as well, finishing ninth with 7.03 adjusted net yards per attempt and fourth with a 1.46 percent interception rate. By many statistical measures, Keenum was a superb quarterback, but the film did not always show him to be the core of Minnesota's offense."

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"As a quarterback, Keenum is plenty capable of winning the Super Bowl. Less capable quarterbacks have hoisted the Lombardi Trophy in the past, as recently as the corpse of Peyton Manning in 2015. The greater takeaway, however, is that Minnesota's offense is not reliant on Keenum being fantastic, but rather him doing enough to enable Diggs and Thielen as game-changers. When coupled with a suffocating defense, there is no denying Minnesota has found a clear avenue for success this season.

How much the Vikings' approach and success (as well as that of the Jaguars) changes the league, we do not yet know. 2017 may have simply been an oddball year, or could be the catalyst for a league-wide revolution in how to build a winning team. Regardless, the meteoric rise of Case Keenum and the Minnesota Vikings offense is a fascinating case study in how to -- at least for the moment -- win without an established franchise quarterback."

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2018/film-room-case-keenum

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Possibly, but he's failed as a starter everywhere he's gone, and now he's over 30.

Good points. It will depend on the level of desperation. If someone ends up as desperate as we were in 2015 with Romo hurt, Keenum could end up starting. If he's okay with being a backup, however, I would prefer him to Cooper Rush.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Bolded is the point.

The difference between he and Dak is not that great. Certainly not as significant as what you get with an extra 20-25 million in cap space for the rest of the team.

You can't just plug in ANY QB into this offense, but you can plug in just about any capable QB and get good production.

Keenum ain’t capable.

 

[Kevinicus]

Keenum ain’t capable.

Sure he is.

A team will not make it to a Championship game with an incapable QB, not even with a dominant D.

He had one year on a decent team...and put up very Dak like numbers.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Sure he is.

A team will not make it to a Championship game with an incapable QB, not even with a dominant D.

He had one year on a decent team...and put up very Dak like numbers.

He’s years removed from that year.

 

[Kevinicus]

He’s years removed from that year.

A whopping 2. Two years not on a decent team. I doubt his numbers would have been too far off from Dak's last year considering an almost across the board improvement in talent he would have had helping him.

 

[Stash]

He’s years removed from that year.

Really? Two years is "years removed" for you?

Is this really the best "Case" against him you can make?

If so, it's a piss poor one.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

FREE AGENT QBs:

1. Drew Brees 25M
2. Tom Brady 23M
3. Philip River 20M

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4. Teddy Bridgewater 7M
5. Jameis Winston 6M
6. Marcus Marriota 6M
7. Chase Daniel 5M

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

A whopping 2. Two years not on a decent team. I doubt his numbers would have been too far off from Dak's last year considering an almost across the board improvement in talent he would have had helping him.

And Cowboys are that much better? They won 8 games last year.

 

[Kevinicus]

And Cowboys are that much better? They won 8 games last year.

Talent wise? Yes, quite a bit. Especially on offense.

Possible exception at TE, depending on who is healthy at the time for Wash.

 

[gjkoeppen]

It clearly tells the simpletons all they need to know. They don't look into where he's played, with what teams, or what coaches. And then try to ignore the fact that he did help to take a team to a 13-3 record and the NFC Championship Game. You can cover your own eyes, but nobody else's. Or that the guy threw for 384 yards and 3 TD's in week one against the Eagles last year. Let me know when your boy Cooper Rush does that, OK?

Ya every person of grade school mentality helped along with drugs knows that the number one criteria for a great player, especially a QB is for that QB to have one good season in EIGHT and be on SEVEN teams. They think there can't be any higher accomplishment than to bounce around from one team to the next.

You're like the weatherman who says tomorrow it will be warm and sunny and in reality it turns out to be cold and rainy. Wait, you're not even that good.
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