Why do we care what players get paid?

[aikemirv]

lol so if I get a sleep by number bed I am paying dak??
and I wouldn't buy anything Nike made, but if I did that money doesn't pay any athletes salary. That is all indirect .
cowboys stadium is sponsored by ATT, I dont use any ATT products, but those who do are not paying players salary's.
Players will get paid regardless of whether someone buys these products or not.
That is all indirect business happenings .

You are not that dumb! ALL and I mean ALL money comes from consumers directly or indirectly!

And yes, you are paying Dak's endorsement money from Sleep Number! It may be .50 cents, it may be $1

 

[aikemirv]

I do not think you understood my post.

The owners are not going to let revenues go down regardless of what the players take. The owners control what the revenue is because they are the ones negotiating the deals and bringing in the revenue. The salary cap is based on that revenue and the owners will generally spend their salary cap (and carry over what they can if they are rebuilding). Therefore whether the player decides to take less or more does not matter because the owners are not going to let the salary cap go down regardless because they will not let revenue go down if they can avoid it.

They absolutely will not let revenue go down if they can avoid it, but the US consumer is still paying it!

 

[DandyDon52]

Interesting info. Thanks, because, I was definitely skipping commercials. I would only watch sports live. Everything else had to be recorded, even if I had to delay a show 20 minutes and ultimately "catch up".

The other thing is only around 50-100,000 families are monitored by neilsen, so from that all ratings you hear about are ESTIMATES !! LOL
If they say 17 mil watched the cowboy game that is just a estimate, a educated guess, they really dont know.
All they know is a certain % of neilsen viewers watched the game, then they say there are 350 mil household, and take that % of that number
and that is how many they say watched the game, and they say it like it is a fact, but really is just a guess.
that small % of neilsen viewers control what shows survive and what shows get canceled.
They also determine nfl ratings.

 

[DandyDon52]

You are not that dumb! ALL and I mean ALL money comes from consumers directly or indirectly!

And yes, you are paying Dak's endorsement money from Sleep Number! It may be .50 cents, it may be $1

indirectly does not count ! lol

 

[aikemirv]

indirectly does not count ! lol

Wow.......

without indirect payments, no employee in America has a job!

 

[Starforever]

NO, I don't go to concerts and I don't go to movies!

And that's not the point. The point is WHY should we care. EVERY US consumer pays their salaries. If you don't care just go out and buy the most expensive brand you can, don't shop for a deal. Hey, don't even ask your car dealer for a better price - just pay the sticker!

But you do care; if you didn't, you would not be complaining about what comes out of your pocket.

 

[Adreme]

They absolutely will not let revenue go down if they can avoid it, but the US consumer is still paying it!

Of course they are, but the premise is why do we care what the players are making because it affects what the consumer has to pay, though a large chunk of that money are the TV deals and soon to be the gambling deals. However, considering that what the players make is driven entirely by what the owners do to generate revenue I would argue that it does not make sense to care what the players make because that is driven by what the owners do. If you want to care about things affect the consumer then it is best to care about what the owners are doing to drive revenue not care about what the players are getting as a percentage of that revenue.

 

[aikemirv]

But you do care; if you didn't, you would not be complaining about what comes out of your pocket.

People always take things out of context in an discussion, just like you did.

The question and debate is why should you care, not whether you care or not or the extent to which you care!

There is not one post where I specifically complained about one thing coming out of MY pocket - just stating that IT DOES!

 

[Starforever]

Thus.....23 years of mediocrity!

I am in agreement with the mediocrity, but you dance with whom you brought to the dance. Us fans don't live mediocre lives, because the team has stunk. We accept what it is, and hope for better.

 

[aikemirv]

Of course they are, but the premise is why do we care what the players are making because it affects what the consumer has to pay, though a large chunk of that money are the TV deals and soon to be the gambling deals. However, considering that what the players make is driven entirely by what the owners do to generate revenue I would argue that it does not make sense to care what the players make because that is driven by what the owners do. If you want to care about things affect the consumer then it is best to care about what the owners are doing to drive revenue not care about what the players are getting as a percentage of that revenue.

It's one in the same. You can argue it from the supply side or the demand side.....

I would enjoy the Cowboys winning just as much right now if the whole NFL was replaced with replacement players. In 2-3 years the game would never miss them!

 

[charron]

We want to see a championship team built. If uncapped we wouldnt care.

 

[Starforever]

People always take things out of context in an discussion, just like you did.

The question and debate is why should you care, not whether you care or not or the extent to which you care!

There is not one post where I specifically complained about one thing coming out of MY pocket - just stating that IT DOES!

I hear you, but why stress that point? What is your endgame?

 

[aikemirv]

I hear you, but why stress that point? What is your endgame?

Because it is a stupid statement "why should we care"

When prices go up, you should care - it effects you!

There is no endgame to arguing on a message board - just making a point.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I’m ready to put all the fans who keep blaming him on the next Titanic. They’re the ones who are making all this Dak drama annoying. Just look at some of the ridiculous threads and comments that are being posted.

Yeah, they're almost as bad as those Romo hating idiots,,,

 

[aria]

How on earth does the cap not matter? That is the ONLY reason I care about how much each player makes. This myth that it will always go up so the salaries don’t really matter is just that, a myth, because as the cap increases so do the salaries. Poorly managed teams get hamstrung by salary caps all the time.

If a player isn’t worth X amount of dollars due to performance, upcoming draft options, current team needs, etc and they over pay for that player it all trickles down and will eventually effect positions of more need.

 

[KJJ]

Yeah, they're almost as bad as those Romo hating idiots,,,

If you’re inferring I was a Romo hater you’re wrong...just sayin!

 

[aria]

Yeah, they're almost as bad as those Romo hating idiots,,,

and the Ewok lovers.

 

[CouchCoach]

Because we want the team to spend smartly and win a superbowl. Duh...

You want that, do you? How that working out?

 

[G2]

If someone told me I get paid too much for what I do I would most likely tell them to go F themselves.

 

[xwalker]

All of this angst over Prescott and his salary to be, why does anyone care that's not paying it? Do you see a better option at QB to win now? Not in the future, win now with this team?

The thinking that he cuts a deal and they'll spend that on D studs, where does that come from? They've been the smallest spenders on salaries since 2016. They brought in Quinn who was fine as a pass rusher but not a good run defender and they went 8-8. They traded for him, they didn't go big in FA for him. They're not players in FA.

I don't care what they pay anybody, that's not football, that's not even a sport. This cap management stuff is utter nonsense.

I want my team to have the best possible players beginning with the ones I know about that have already shown it. That's why I want to keep Prescott, Cooper and Jones because I don't know the options and I think they give this team it's best chance to turn things back north.

If you are concerned about the future, that's different but I am not. I only care about this season and I have no idea what's going to happen to that cap or QB salaries but I suspect both are going up considerably.

I don't care if Prescott is the highest paid QB or Cooper as the WR or Jones as the CB because comparing them to others and salary comparing is ridiculous, we do not have access to those players. They are either worth keeping or they or not or they have a reasonable option to replace them. And there is no rookie at those 3 positions that is going to be as good as those 3 players.

These negotiations have taken over the forum and we're spending more time on the evil of the game, the money, than the game itself. You going to watch these players cash game checks or play on the field?

If you feel there are better options, FOR THIS SEASON, than these 3 players, that is one thing but money isn't the factor. This team is loaded to go hunting now, that's why this HC was hired, to turn this north and win now. Are they a true contender? Not sure but any one of those 3 players is removed makes it tougher.

This forum is supposed to be about football, not economics.

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